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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
rusty_knight: You need half a dozen countries at a time to get together and come up with some common aims, needs, goals etc and then negotiate with other blocs of countries; eventually having just five or six 'mega blocs' negotiating at a global level.

Whether you are pro or anti having the right as a nation to make all your own decisions, or prepared to 'bend to the interests of the greater whole' the EU is a fantastic example of taking power by stealth for 'ever greater union' as in the treaty of Rome and if that model was copied in different global regions we'd be less likely to have WW3 and move ever and ever closer to a unified planet.


The example of the EU gives credence to my contention that the One World Government is a fallacy. And your second point I also agree with in that France was the cornerstone of the economic EU which was an underhanded way to create a bloc political unit. The lead up to the Iraq invasion proved that when they threatened Eastern Europ to vote with them or fact exclusion from the EU.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Hugz_n_Kissez: Nope...I made the best decisions for both my kids and I when it comes to my ex-partner...He hasn't changed a lick in 14 years....which validates the fact I made exactly the right choices at the time when I look at what our life together would have been like....


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Must be something in the water as I understood the question too.

For all others, here is the translation;

For all single parents, searching inside yourself, do you feel guilt that you may have not done all you could have or, did something wrong to make it so your child is without two parents?




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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Using the negativity from others to do something you do not want to do is a terrible reason and, very unhealthy as it places your soul outside your own person. However, if you were going to do that anyhow then their negativity simply adds to the reasons why you personally wish to succeed.

The latter is how most people excel in many service jobs such as military, police, firefighters etc. It is pressure of failure and the pride of doing well coupled with the honor they bestow on themselves from others that drives them. Once started on this path, it lasts a lifetime.

That's good btw.thumbs up


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
toranoga: Maybe it was Mein Kampf?
Are you insinuating that government can't run a business better than anyone?


Better. And I'm looking forward to it, it'll feel great to be back in uniform again comrade Toranoga.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
toranoga: I nead to go back and read up on my Marx and Lennin!


You had better. Being fluent in newspeak will ensure your place on the soup line.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
toranoga:
It's 10 o'clock and all is well!


No cause for concern comrade. sleep


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/03/29/spanish-court-considers-criminal-case-ex-bush-officials/ rolling on the floor laughing

In response to: MADRID - A Spanish court has agreed to consider opening a criminal case against six former Bush administration officials, including former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, over allegations they gave legal cover for torture at Guantanamo Bay, a lawyer in the case said Saturday.

Human rights lawyers brought the case before leading anti-terror judge Baltasar Garzon, who agreed to send it on to prosecutors to decide whether it had merit, Gonzalo Boye, one of the lawyers who brought the charges, told The Associated Press.


What's really interesting is this;

In response to: Yoo, for instance, wrote a series of secret memos that claimed the president had the legal authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.

President George W. Bush always denied the U.S. tortured anyone. The U.S. has acknowledged that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described plotter of Sept. 11, and a few other prisoners were waterboarded at secret CIA prisons before being taken to Guantanamo, but the Bush administration insisted that all interrogations were lawful.


Oh, and just in case anybody thinks that Fox is biased (although this obviously shows they are not) even Al Jazerra agrees with them.
rolling on the floor laughing

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/03/200932972128967445.html

In response to: The Bush administration maintained that all interrogations were lawful.



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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
norslyman: I wouldn't claim to know that! I could go to Vegas and place bets on what war will be next! Hey.....there's and idea.

This may help........


So it's only a theory then. A possibility with holes in it everywhere.

Article
In response to: The strategy being followed by the United States and the European Union is to "shrink the gap".
and;

Aticle
In response to: Nations who are not now functioning in the Global System and are not likely to do so in the foreseeable future, unless they are kicked into it by U.S. or European troops, or by the threat of invasion. These nations are called the "Non-Functioning Gap".


So how is it that the EU, the US and major players like Russia and China do not, for the most part agree on this strategy?

At best, this would be a US strategy and hardly a global one for a World Government.




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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
rusty_knight: but you can't prove it!


As I showed they had no bias in the above examle, the existing evidence leans in my favor as does Occam's Razor. Try as you might, it is rather difficult to prove a negative so according to the existing evidence and logic, so far, you are wrong.
professor


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
What's interesting about al this is that the anti tobacco types who petitioned for this will eventually get what they want, and, what they never figured on. As more people quit smoking due to prices and morreso, the bans on areas where one can light up, the government will have to make up the tax shortfall somehow. That somehow will be spread across the board to ex smokers and non smokers who have never smoked alike.

Finally they will get to test their 'health benifit' savings plan in real life. I have a feeling they're not going to like it. On the other hand, smokers when they quit will realize a savings no matter what.laugh


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
rusty_knight: It's not a theory - it's my opinion.

Opinions cannot be proved.

I don't need to post facts and links to prove an opinion that is merely that.............. my perception from what I have seen and heard.

Ok?


Perfectly fine.thumbs up

And, from what I have seen and read, I certainly believe that you are very mistaken.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
Robbie
In response to: Oh i'm not upset, but clearly he want's something in a link where the source material cant be provided.

It would require almost a book to provide such evidence, and for what, just for the attitude above to say.....prove it....it's a terrible waste of time.


Here Robbie, it's really not hard. Here I offer an unbiased report on Obama and his meeting with Karazi.

Fox http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511219,00.html
In response to: Karzai praised Obama's focus on countering militant sanctuaries in Pakistan, a key part of the administration's goal of disrupting and defeating Al Qaeda and its allies who have made a comeback following the fall of the Taliban in 2001.


MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29927468/
In response to: President Hamid Karzai praised U.S. plans to strengthen Afghanistan's army and police and provide greater civilian aid to help rebuild the country. He also welcomed President Barack Obama's focus on countering militant sanctuaries in neighboring Pakistan, which has been a point of tension between Afghan and Pakistani officials.


CNN http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/28/afghanistan.us/index.html
In response to: Speaking to parliament on Saturday, Zardari hailed Obama's proposal for legislation authorizing $1.5 billion in direct support to the Pakistani people every year over the next five years.

It is part of Obama's strategy unveiled Friday to fight al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan.


Frankly, I don't see any difference in the stories. Read them if you like but they're all just as complimentary to Obama and his plan, even Fox strangely enough.

Robbie
In response to: The argument or idea cant be proved with a simple link.


You are certainly not adding to the strength of your contention by complaining how I should google quotes for you.

rusty_knight: Totally unbiased reporting can be a little 'dry' - that's why it's fun to watch some station like Fox News that is almost proud of its bias and also see a totally different point of view.

I'm not saying that any reputable tv station deliberately goes out to lie, but if they can be a little economical with the truth or put more emphasis on what THEY (i.e. the boss) finds interesting then that's their prerogative.

The BBC often gets slagged off in the UK for being too pro Labour, but compared to Radio Moscow and the Voice of America which I both heard (in Enlish ) in the Congo as a kid it was the voice of reason compared to the two super powers of the cold war fighting their ideological war by whatever means they could!

So there!

'We' don't know the half of it or hear the half of it - we only hear what people want us to hear - just as in the countries we believe are brain-washed!


That's a theory. Do you have proof that we can look at?

pretzelman: this whole thread is just another cut and paste rant...where somebody had an agenda. Does not want dialogue..just his perceived superiority!


Is it? I can't count the amount of times people have said that Fox News is extremely biased. If you believe so then please provide some proof. If you don't believe they are then that's fine too but please, add to the discussion rather than attack me for asking for proof of a contention.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM: Unless your blind it's not the only active thread.

I'm not wasting my time trying to explain this any more, your clearly impervious to using your own initiative.


The next active thread on the Current Events and Politics forum (Move Israel to the USA) has not been active for over five hours Robbie.

And I am willing to use my own initiative and did. There are no links to support Fox being more systematically biased in their reporting than any other news reporting agency.

RobbieM: It's like trying to debate with a 6th form teenage in 1st year politics!


Debate? You have not even posted a point to debate with much less proven it.

RobbieM: GO LOOK UP LINKS YOURSELF.


Thought we went through this already. You know, if you believe Fox is biased provide some proof and all. That you came here without proof is not my problem.

Scubadiva
In response to: As a rule of thumb, I don't watch network news except CNN (Washington Journal, etc). Fox only appears flipping through.


Me niether. I use all of them including Al Jazerra, CNN, Iraq Daily and UK pubs as well as USA today, NYT and whatever. The stories are pretty much the same as what Fox reports when I wander over to see which is why I am amazed that people can call them biased.

Scubadiva
In response to: The one time I stopped to watch was by accident when Riley (the one who likes to sexually harass women) had the head of the socialist party on in a split-screen segment - a rare sight indeed. The segment was brief, maybe a minute to a minute and a half. During that minute, the socialist didn't get a word it AT ALL. It was embarrassing to see Riley shout the guy down with his idiotic rhetoric; asking questions and then answering them himself. This was anything but an interview. What a waste of airtime. Once again, it confirmed what Fox and its target audience are all about... and it isn't "fair and balanced reporting." That segment proved it.


That's a talk show on Fox, not the news.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM: Now if you want links as i said then why not just go find them yourself, why should i bother to waste my time to find them for you!


Robbie, please read the OP where I ask "Can you provide examples of lies in news reporting or omission by Fox News?

Can you provide examples of lies in news reporting or omission by CNN, MSNBC or any other news agency? "


Evidently you cannot so why did you bother venturing onto the only active thread on the C&P forums?




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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM:
Please tell me what you want to actually achieve?


To show that systematic bias in Fox's news reporting is no more than any other news agency, is only in the mind of the left and is not reality.

RobbieM: Clearly, you know nothing about the news media if you want me or anyone else to send you a link to a site showing an inconsistency!


Well golly Robbie, is it really that difficult to provide a link to a news story and then a brief quote of the lie?

RobbieM: If you want to waste you time looking for a link, then go find one yourself!!


They don't exist, that is my point entirely so, they cannot be found by myself or, others. You seemed so sure that google had tons but seem to have been unable to produce any.

RobbieM: I'm sorry but unless you seriously expect anyone to have a link memorised then im afraid you won't be getting many links to stories.


You expect others to use google but you are unable to actually peruse the news at the Fox News site and compare to another agency to support your contention? Golly.

RobbieM:
Now do you understand why your not getting lot's of links?


It's a subject open for anybody and you walked in. That it has been the only active thread in the past five hours with eleven posts proves you wrong.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM: You want proof, of this on a forum?


Yes. It's called quote and provide a link. I give you an example below.

RobbieM:
Honestly, interesting as it is to me, that's why nobody else posted!


The time being between three and six am might also be a factor.

RobbieM: If you want forensic proof of lying, i suggest google, but generally they report what they would like you to hear, and edit the information in a way to just tell you what they want.


I didn't find any examples, just rants.

RobbieM:
Other's may call it biased reporting, or reporting by ommission but if you watch Fox for your news then you won't be getting a balanced view of anything.


You should be able to provide a few stories from the past month or so and line them up beside any of the other networks to show the lies easy enough then.

Heidi
In response to: Drewski, and I don't wish to belabor the point, for you wear me out in debate, and it's just too early, but, I was watching the election return coverage in 2000.


You and Robbie contend that Fox is a systematic culprit when in this case, the error was the consultant's. Many other networks back this up as they ran with the same story.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml

In response to: (CBS) A Fox News consultant involved in making judgments about presidential "calls" on Election Night admits he was in touch with George W. Bush and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush by telephone several times during the evening, but denies having broken any rules.

Fox is considering disciplinary action against the consultant, John Ellis, who is a cousin to Bush and a former Boston Globe columnist who stopped writing about the campaign for the paper, citing family "loyalty" to Bush.

On Election Night, Ellis headed a four-person team that analyzed Voter News Service (VNS) exit poll data for the network and made judgments about which candidate would win each state when all the votes had been counted. The decision to broadcast those projections was made by a Fox executive.

At 2:16 a.m. on Wednesday morning, Fox became the first network to call Florida for Bush. Minutes later, CBS, ABC, NBC, and CNN made the same call.

VNS is an exit polling service created by the networks and the Associated Press to provide data to subscriber news organizations on Election Day.

Before votes are counted and made public, journalists use VNS to see how the vote is going among people who participated in the polling. The data, which updates continuously on Election Night, can also be used to divine trends, such as how Americans of a given gender, age bracket, income or religion are voting.

The contract between VNS and its subscribers prohibits news organizations from broadcasting/publishing or sharing a state's election results with non-subscribers, until a "large majority" of polls have closed in that state.

The New Yorker magazine reported that Ellis "relay early vote counts [to Austin] as they showed up on his screens." Ellis admits to having been in touch with George W. and Jeb Bush several times during the evening, but denies having violated VNS rules and Fox policy.

Whether Ellis violated the letter of the VNS contract or not, it’s fat on the fire of the controversy engulfing the Florida vote, which already includes an examination of conscience at network news organizations over their role in the confusion about the outcome of the vote there.

Ellis provided CBSNews.com with a copy of a letter he says he sent to the editor of the New Yorker. In the letter, Ellis says that he “did not share with [Governor Bush] any of the information that was appearing on our screens" during two afternoon phone calls.


In order to prove bias on the part of Fox, rather than the error of a consultant they used you need something other than your opinion.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM: Fox called it first, when everyone and all the polls were calling it for Gore.

What more do you want?

The others all followed...like sheep, but why?


It was a genuine mistake and the others followed as you say, like sheep because nobody had solid sources. Bush and Jeb had a cousin doing the analysis and had talked to the guy shortly prior to the call saying he won. The moron took them at their word, just as all the other news networks did.

So, as for what more do I want, I asked for proof, not an instance where they made the same mistake as all the other networks.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
RobbieM: How about examples where they called the election in florida of the former senator bush as election as as president when everyone else was calling the election in favour of Gore.

They shall we say have an agenda!


The same as ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN did. professor


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
I went out for a run and then got back and it was only a quarter to nine so, shoveled mine and the neighbors sidewalk as it snowed a little Friday night.


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Drewski Olds, Alberta Canada
mrali: why ur leaving,u r in the right one to learn something ,new and an intresting
mercedez,if u will go in the deep of islam,u will be amazed and surprised that how much islam is perfect,


And you in turn would be happy that you adopted Christianity as it is the most perfect of all religions.thumbs up


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