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I remember this song from the first time my heart broke. Her name was N'Dora, and I really screwed up with her. This song will forever remind me of the dangers immaturity poses to a relationship. I'd like to think that the lessons learned here saved me from similar mistakes later in my life. At any rate, this song communicates how I felt the moment I realized I had messed up. Just in case it sounds familiar, it is the song they played when Alex P. Keeton (Michael J Fox) had his heart broken by Ellen on Family Ties.


"At This Moment" by Billy Vera & The Beaters

What did you think
I would do at this moment
When you're standing before me
With tears in your eyes
Trying to tell me
that you have found you another
and you just don't love me no more

What did you think
I would say at this moment
When I'm faced with the knowledge
That you just don't love me
Did you think I would curse you
Or say things to hurt you
'cause you just don't love me no more

Did you think
I could hate you
Or raise my hands to you
Now come on you know me too well
How could I hurt you
when darling I love you
and you know
I'd never, never hurt you-oo-wo-oo...

What do you think
I would give at this moment
If you'd stay
I'd subtract twenty years from my life
I'd fall down on my knees
and kiss the ground that you walk on
If I could just hold you again

I'd fall down on my knees
I'd kiss the ground that you walk on baby
If I could just hold you

If I, could just hold you

If I, if I could just hold-hold you, again



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One of the greatest parts of loving God are the unknowns. The Mysteries of God are beautiful (even though some can test you). This song was the first that made me think about how mind blowing the whole story (of the bible) can be. It's the story of how a creator and his creation were separated and then reconciled in the name of love.

"The Final Word" by Michael Card

"You and me we use so very many clumsy words.
The noise of what we often say is not worth being heard.
When the Father's Wisdom wanted to communicate His love,
He spoke it in one final perfect Word.

He spoke the Incarnation and then so was born the Son.
His final word was Jesus, He needed no other one.
Spoke flesh and blood so He could bleed and make a way Divine.
And so was born the baby who would die to make it mine.

And so the Father's fondest thought took on flesh and bone.
He spoke the living luminous Word, at once His will was done.
And so the transformation that in man had been unheard
Took place in God the Father as He spoke that final Word.

He spoke the Incarnation and then so was born the Son.
His final word was Jesus, He needed no other one.
Spoke flesh and blood so He could bleed and make a way Divine.
And so was born the baby who would die to make it mine.

And so the Light became alive
And manna became Man.
Eternity stepped into time
So we could understand.

He spoke the Incarnation and then so was born the Son.
His final word was Jesus, He needed no other one.
Spoke flesh and blood so He could bleed and make a way Divine.
And so was born the baby who would die to make it mine."



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It sounded a little too over the top, but I do not know the story from which you are referring. I loved the Gaithers, but I do not know them enough to refute the story. I do hope the story is wrong, but I accept that it might be true.


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I would like to hear about them if they are bad songs that changed your life in a positive way. Maybe just to hear how you explained it.


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Curious, we just have to be careful not to label sin anything else but sin. Yes we are called to love, but part of that is calling someone out if they deserve to be called out. Jesus resisted the proud, but gave grace to the humble. He never side stepped sin. Just like a loving parent will correct their child, or an older sibling will call for better behavior. It is not about judging the person. It is about calling sin what it is, sin. Sometimes love calls one to speak up.


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Ship, have you ever read Steve Camp's 107 theses. It is a little different than want you are saying, but I think you would like it. http://www.worship.com/steve_camp_107_theses.htm

Let me know what you think.


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Here is song about an event that changed most of our lives. I hope this song helps us to never forget.

"Where Were You (When The World Stopped Turning)" by Alan Jackson

Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day
Out in the yard with your wife and children
Working on some stage in LA
Did you stand there in shock at the site of
That black smoke rising against that blue sky
Did you shout out in anger
In fear for your neighbor
Or did you just sit down and cry

Did you weep for the children
Who lost their dear loved ones
And pray for the ones who don't know
Did you rejoice for the people who walked from the rubble
And sob for the ones left below

Did you burst out in pride
For the red white and blue
The heroes who died just doing what they do
Did you look up to heaven for some kind of answer
And look at yourself to what really matters

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
The difference in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
And the greatest is love

Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day
Teaching a class full of innocent children
Driving down some cold interstate
Did you feel guilty cause you're a survivor
In a crowded room did you feel alone
Did you call up your mother and tell her you love her
Did you dust off that bible at home
Did you open your eyes and hope it never happened
Close your eyes and not go to sleep
Did you notice the sunset the first time in ages
Speak with some stranger on the street
Did you lay down at night and think of tomorrow
Go out and buy you a gun
Did you turn off that violent old movie you're watching
And turn on "I Love Lucy" reruns
Did you go to a church and hold hands with some stranger
Stand in line and give your own blood
Did you just stay home and cling tight to your family
Thank God you had somebody to love

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
The difference in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
And the greatest is love

I'm just a singer of simple songs
I'm not a real political man
I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
The difference in Iraq and Iran
But I know Jesus and I talk to God
And I remember this from when I was young
Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
And the greatest is love

The greatest is love
The greatest is love

Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day




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Wow bodleing, those words were incredible. I would love to hear how this songs sounds.


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That was wonderful Curious. Who sings that, and where can I get a copy of it?


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My first entry will be the song “Asleep in the Light” by Keith Green.

I first heard this song right after I gave my life to God. The song is a direct rebuke of the church or at least those who profess to belong to Jesus, but do not live like they do. Keith always challenged Christians to live with their lives in the same way they profess with their mouths. This song pointed out to me that being a Christian goes way beyond calling yourself one and going to church. The words “how can you be so dead, when you’ve been so well fed? Jesus rose from the grave, and you… can’t even get out of bed.” can still sting a bit. It is hard to listen to his song, or even read his words, without feeling the heat of Keith’s righteous indignation.

The song is prophetic. Which means Keith endeavors to communicate a message from God. He believed his songs were from God, and so do I.

"Do you see, do you see, all the people sinking down,
Don't you care, don't you care, are you gonna let them drown,
How can you be so numb, not to care if they come,
You close your eyes and pretend the job's done.
Oh Bless me Lord, bless me Lord, you know it's all I ever hear,
No one aches, no one hurts, no one even sheds one tear,
But He cries, He weeps, He bleeds, and He cares for your needs,
And you just lay back and keep soaking it in, oh, can't you see it's such sin?
Cause He brings people to your door,
And you turn them away, as you smile and say,
God bless you, be at peace, and all Heaven just weeps,
Cause Jesus came to your door, you've left Him out on the streets.
Open up, open up, and give yourself away,
You've seen the need, you hear the cry, so how can you delay,
God's calling and you're the one, but like Jonah you run,
He's told you to speak, but you keep holding it in,
Oh, can't you see it's such sin?
The world is sleeping in the dark,
That the church can't fight, cause it's asleep in the light,
How can you be so dead, when you've been so well fed,
Jesus rose from the grave, and you, you can't even get out of bed,
Oh, Jesus rose from the dead, come on, get out of your bed.
How can you be so numb, not to care if they come,
You close your eyes and pretend the job's done,
You close your eyes and pretend the job's done,
Don't close your eyes, don't pretend the job's done.
Come away, come away, come away with Me, My love,
Come away, from this mess, come away with Me, My love."



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Have you ever heard a song that changed you? Into everyone’s life comes times of personal change. Sometimes it is an event, a person, a story, or a song that can incite that change in you. I want this thread to be about songs that positively changed you. Let us know the song. Post the lyrics if you can. And don’t forget to tell us how that song changed you.


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"So many times I've tried to tell you,
But I don't think you've been listening.
There's nothing I wanna try and sell you,
Cause his love is free.
You're so proud of saying you're a seeker,
But why are you searching in the dark?
You won't find a thing until you soften your heart.
The message is oh so very simple,
You gotta be like a child to see.
Cause Jesus said let the little children,
Come unto me.
You try to make things too complicated,
But you really don't have to be so smart.
You won't learn a thing until you soften your heart.
Well if just this once, I could show you your empty life, I know,
You would follow Him right now.
But I know it sounds just too good to be true,
But if He lives in you, you'll never die, you'll never die,
You'll live forever.
You'll never die, you'll never die, take care of forever, now.
You tell everyone to keep on smiling,
Your outlook on life is so positive,
But deep down inside you're look for a reason to live,
Like everyone else you're scared of dying,
But the power of death has been blown apart.
And you'll live forever, if you softer your heart."

Keith Green


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I'm in a coffee shop, cause I don't have internet at home :o(, and I hear "Sweet Georgia Brown". Makes me think of the Harlem Globetrotters.


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Thank you for sharing Conrad. I cannot think of anyone who reject a post like yours.


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Then the Lord said to him, "Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and dish clean, but your inward part is full of greed and wickedness. "Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? "But rather give alms of such things as you have; then indeed all things are clean to you. "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. "Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like graves which are not seen, and the men who walk over them are not aware of them." Then one of the lawyers answered and said to Him, "Teacher, by saying these things You reproach us also." And He said, "Woe to you also, lawyers! For you load men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers. "Woe to you! For you build the tombs of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. "In fact, you bear witness that you approve the deeds of your fathers; for they indeed killed them, and you build their tombs. "Therefore the wisdom of God also said, 'I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,' "that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, "from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation. "Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered." Luke 11:22-52

Let us not forget... Jesus does not play around when it is serious.


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"But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils. "He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters. "When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.’ "And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. "Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first." And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!" But He said, "More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!" And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, "This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. "For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. "The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. "The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. "No one, when he has lit a lamp, puts it in a secret place or under a basket, but on a lampstand, that those who come in may see the light. "The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness. "Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness. "If then your whole body is full of light, having no part dark, the whole body will be full of light, as when the bright shining of a lamp gives you light." And as He spoke, a certain Pharisee asked Him to dine with him. So He went in and sat down to eat. When the Pharisee saw it, he marveled that He had not first washed before dinner.


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Jesus knew He would be hated above all men for two reasons. For one, He came to destroy the works of the devil in all of us. That means He came to expose us for what we really are. Fallen, imperfect, sinful, or whatever you want to call it, man. We hate Him because He forces us to make a decision. He calls you to Himself. He calls you to give up all those things with which you are playing that are destroying your soul. He calls us back to His Father. And the second reason He knew He would be hated, is because of the horrible things people would do in His name. The church has committed many atrocities in the name of Jesus, but He had nothing to do with them. Jesus calls us to lay our lives down more than anything else in the bible. But just as He allows the person who says he does not follow Christ to do wrong, Jesus also allows the person who SAYS he DOES follow Christ to do wrong. The chilling difference will be when both have to answer for what they have done wrong.


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While I agree Jesus was heroic (to me beyond all others), and that His message was way too revolutionary for the religious leaders of His time. It was the fact that He called their "Religulous" lives and hypocrisy into question that caused them to rise up against Him. Make no mistake. Jesus was killed in the name of religion.

But I have to disagree with you about the rest.

I find nothing in Paul's teaching to contradict the life and ministry of Jesus Christ. Paul himself even said "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8&9 We have to remember what we have from Paul are letters, and should be taken as such. Keeping them in context is crucial.

We also should remember that we can become our own worst enemy. A man can convince himself of anything. When a man convinces himself that he is good, especially when he convinces his inner self that he is good, it is the beginning of hypocrisy. Jesus never said to look in and of yourself. He said to look to your Father who is in heaven. Jesus did not call us to have guilt over what He did for us, He called us to have love over what He did for us. His sacrifice draws me closer to Him than anything else. Like a fireman that pulled me out of a fire, I will forever be grateful to Him. And even more, because unlike the fireman, Jesus saves me over and over again. He gives me that which I most desire. He gives me life.




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I heard it said that God's plan for our lives is three fold.

#1 He takes you out of the world (taking us to a place where He can work with us, like Paul in the desert Galatians 1:12)

#2 He takes the world out of you (1 Corinthians 10:21)

#3 And after He has set us apart and washed us (1 Corinthians 6:11) and we have given ourselves wholly to Him (2Timoty 2:19), then He send us back into the world (Luke 10:2, John 20:21)

The most common mistake made by His children is to go out before we have completed #2, or to go out before #3. Many of us fall because we forget it is God who sends us out.


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I was involved in street ministry for over 8 years, went to Mardi Gras (with various groups) 5 years in a row, and found myself working with the National Street Ministries Conference for many of those years. I even worked for Scott Hinkle in 1995 to put on the conference at the DFW Holiday Inn south. Were you there? I loved the conference, and became good friends with Scott, Ken Henderson, Denny Nessley, Winkie Pratney, Chuck Girard, Ron and Judy Radacey, and others. That was an awesome time in my life. I just hate that they moved the conference away. I know it sometimes comes back to Dallas, but I have missed it so far.

To think that we may have run into each other at the conference and never knew it. It's a small world.


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