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I am interested in this too Karma, because of how Cris has highlighted it, a point that was raised by her very good self.

However, I do still feel that if he is not the father, then he should not be forced to pay.




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Guiri

Our Ven, has been advertising you over on in the International Shreds.

When we have decided the winner, you are the prize.



Sorry Ven, I had you drop you innit.

I will help though.




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Oh dear, not looking good is it. Sounds like he made a foolish decision.




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Oh the silly man, dragging them into it. I so dislike that when parents use their children to get back at another.

You have to, keep the girls out of it, I know he is the one doing this, but tell him so that you will not tolerate your children being used in this way.

You cannot force your girls to respect him, he can only gain their respect and in disresepcting their mother and treating her as a cash point machine, he is not doing that.

Arranged contact, a final offer of unfurnished apartment, and leave him to it.

Make it clear that if he turns this down, then he gets absolutely nothing. The contact with the children will be, if they are coming out with their opinions as you describe, at their dicretion.

Remove the burden from your shoulders, time for you to do that.

Put the burden on his, let him make his own decisions and not call the shots, if he has little money to back up his words, then he can hardly afford to sue you.

Give him the choice tomorrow, tell him in that offer he has a week to think about it, make it clear, then have some bloody fun.




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Hi Turkish, hope your Christmas in Germany was good.

No, I would not save another from hardship, on entering a relationship, if I was in an established one, I would, do what I could to support them. Emotionally and financially.

Why is the lass in a worse position than before?




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Sorry for butting in here, Karma and Princess.

The bleeding has to stop Karma, it has to.

WHat has he been doing for three years, is my next question? How has he been supporting himself? Or have you supported him?

If he has no intention of supporting his children financially, and that cannot be enforced, then you may well have a good case for not giving him anything.

The irony of it, in another thread, there is man who is not the father of children and judge has ordered him to pay.

The diametrically opposed view is immense here, it goes to prove that money whoever has it, will be the one thing, that will win in the end.




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Hi Cris

I find your response interesting.

It is hard to make a clear view on this, as there is so little to go on.

In the UK, if a couple part, the father will be asked to pay, the only way a DNA would be asked for, in this instance if his name was not on the birth certificate, to prove that he was not, I repeat, not the father, this is what DNA does, prove that a father is not the biological father.

Again in the UK, if a couple were marrried at the time of the child's/children's birth, then automatically the male is registered as the child's father.

Child support would not be ordered for a man who is not the biological father, because it is unfair.

Why should he support children that are not his?

I would not want to be forced to do so, it should be a voluntary decision if he has a bond with those children.

This is a clear sign of how women can screw men financially, I feel for this man, if he has been ordered to pay for these children and they are not his own.

How then, if he wants his own child, is he to go on and provide for said child.

If he has been misled into believing these twins are his, that is unfair.

He may not have been suspicious, the courts could have ordered that the test be done.

We do not know that, that is why it is hard to give a view on this.

He could have been suspicious all along, they were not his. It may have been the cause of the divorce, we do not know.

Maybe Mychelle will tell us more.






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No, I know you did not.

But then if they are seriously interested, and they are in a postion to afford it, then they should come to you.

You are 20, he knew what he was doing.

Have you heard from him?




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Brilliant Jacko, like it, like it.




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Look, I come here, for coffee, a hug, and some nice chat, and this is the fanks I get...

Sort out your client and come back for the real ones here.

Tell them you are taking the year off and I said it was ok.

They will be fine.




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Marki

You are not in that group, they put you in that group.

You have learnt and I am relieved you are safe.

Don't do it again, even if he offers you millions.

Don't.

If he has money, then he can travel to you and that goes for the lady who asked this question.




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You know Ship, I believe you, in fact you could tell me the world was square and I would believe you.

I agree, about making the move, when it is right, and it was for me, if it had not been reciprocated there would have been no hard feelings and we would have moved on.

I am so very pleased for you, and Sharon, I do not know her, I know only a little of you from here, but out of anybody, here, this is the best news, ever. Simply because of what I do know about you.

The very best to you and Sharon, Ship.

And a hug right back to you and her.




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I have been looking for this thread.

Hi Tain.

You know, you have to grab it, because of incidents like the one you have described, that is how I am, how I think.

You should take the opportunity if they present themselves, I did, had he said no he did not want to meet, then I would have slunk off quietly,

Two years is a long time, you are too smart to let it all go by you, if he cannot commit after two years to a meeting, you need to move on and allow yourself the chance to be free to pursue other lines of interest should you so wish.

I think you have been outstandingly patient, immensely, that shows some good staying power, somebody else could have been the benefit of that wonderful love and patience and appreciated it.

You will never know now, but I would suggest one last go at getting him to meet with you, or bye - bye.

Tain for you.



You damn well deserve it.




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Well as nobody has done the honours, I will.

Morning folks, shabby cafe this is, no service, no coffee and no croissants.

Poor show folks.




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This is a good point, if the husband has a bond with these children and they only know him as a father, then the husband may well want to provide voluntarily, but that should be his choice and his choice alone, no judge should enforce that.

Also, if this man is not the father, and he wants to move on and he wants a family of his own, then he will want to support his own.

There are many aspects to this case, and I cannot believe a judge made a judgement such as this.

But then it is the US. And anything is possible.




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Not sure what you are asking.

Money is something that is not discussed in the first stages of contact, with me, so I am surprised at this, however, you should make sure you are aware of scams, see the advice page.




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Hi Karma

This mustbe quite draining for you, I feel for you. I went through an awful lot with my ex husband, we were in court for five years in total.

Everything I offered he turned down, he wanted cash in the end and I was not prepared to give it to him, unless I had some knowledge that he had a place for the children to be safe and a bed to sleep in.

I have to clarify that the father of my children is a good dad, he is just crap with money and lazy to boot, he could not care less who was in the world but his children and that I do promote, his children adore him and I would not do anything to change that for them.

What your lawyer thinks is a sign, he is governed by law and can only move within that law, whatever offer you make, is up to you, your lawyer is there to ensure that that offer is legal and binding and protect your interests.

I would put the offer of an apartment there, you do not have to furnish it, let him do that himself, just offer to buy an apartment, that is all, he is an adult and in charge of himself.

Arranged contact with the children, if he chooses not to uphold that, then he is hurting nobody but himself, the children will manage, they have you.

Keep is as clean and sterile as possible, class and dignity will always win, kill him with kindness, but let him know that this is your final offer and nothing else will come of it if he does not accept this one.

There are alot of men, who lose alot when their marriages break up, homes, children, earnings, remind him of that, he is damn lucky to be having this chance to have a home, the rest is up to him.

You need to move on too, Karma, how can you with all of this hanging over you?

You have my thoughts with you, I have been where you are and it is not easy.

The very best of luck and do let us know how you get on.

Sock it to him girl, beautifully.




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Hi Mychelle

Goodness this is a tricky one.

I do not agree with the judges decision, I think this man has been treated very unfairly.

Child support is such a tough topic, people associate it with contact with their children and they are two separate matters entirely, one does not guarantee the other.

The DNA test prove he is not the bioloigical father and her statement of 'having no memory of an affair' is somewhat weak.

She either did or she did not.

This does, though, raise another question, how dependable are DNA tests?

I will be interested in Sexy Attorney's view on this, I am sure it will be witty, but factual.




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I get alot of interest from overseas.

Even though my profile states not to contact me, I just press delete, any person who contacts you, you are in control.

Just press delete that is quicker than typing in here about it and responding to them.

They do get the message.




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