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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
ladichatterlee: although I must admit the buckskin coat is awfully fear-provoking.


It should be - it's not a "coat" but a traditional war shirt. It is meant to be intimidating. The bead work is Southern Cheyenne and I'd explain more about the meaning of the patterns, but I know you don't care.

And one last quick item: You mentioned earlier something about the proximity of wild animals and the ease of killing them as opposed to the location and ease of going to the nearest Krogers. Truth is that I can walk out the back door and be in Nature's grocery store in less than 30 seconds. The nearest Krogers is a 6 mile drive.

I do not have a freezer full of beef and pork although there are a few trout in there. I caught them last summer on the Clinch River. In a few weeks I hope to have filled my freezer with venison and turkey. My conscience is clear and I will eat well and it will be healthier, cheaper and easier on the environment than a trip to Krogers in a polluting automobile.

Oh, and I'm a proud, card-carrying member of P.E.T.A (People Easting Tasty Animals)!


Goodbye!


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
ladichatterlee: Your story of life on the American frontier, and how you forged the streams and fought bears with your bear hands and stitched beaver-skin clothing with hair from an otter notwithstanding, you're still an animal killer.


No ma'am. I never made any of the claims you alluded to. Unlike you, I have simply stated facts. But you are right; I am still an animal killer. Just as you are still an un-educated hypocrite.

And yes, I know you've got thirteen degrees and are personally smarter than Einstein, Brubaker and Isaac Newton put together, but the fact remains that you don't know diddly squat about the natural world and the critters don't care how many letters you've got behind your name. I think maybe you should visit a slaughterhouse. Since you're too hypocritical to procure meat yourself, perhaps we'd be better off if you didn't disrespect animals that someone else has killed on your behalf by eating them.

You want to see deer in the wild? I'll make you a deal: For a nominal fee, I will take you and a few others of your choice on a weekend outing. I will leave my guns at home and we will not eat meat the entire time we are out. I will allow jeans and sneakers, but no hiking boots as they are too harmful to the environment. You'll also have to leave your perfume, deoderant and nail polish behind as these are not natural and have no place on an outing like this.

We will leave the evironmentally un-friendly sleeping bags at home and instead use wool blankets on beds of leaves and grass. I will teach you how to make fire without matches and show you a few edible wild plants. After that you'll be on your own unless you get into to trouble. I seriously doubt, despite your own claims, that you'll get close enough to feed the deer by hand (although there is a chance that, given your ineptitude and attitude, you will wind up feeding the bears).

FWIW, I am quite qualified to do this; I have both taken and taught desert, plains and mountain survival courses and have also worked as a guide for those who otherwise couldn't find their asses with both hands in the natural world (such as yourself). I am a naturalist who has indeed been in the position of having to hunt in order to survive and I have references if you'd care to contact them prior to booking my services.

You want to anthropomorphise all the poor defenseless little animals? Fine! Let me take you on a weekend outing and show you first hand just how they treat each other. Trust me, I'm far more humane in my methods than they are. But no, you and your kind are hypocrites who don't know or care the first thing about the natural world except for observing it casually from the safety of the modern world.

You wanna' know the truth? It is possible for man to live in the animal world without noticeably changing it. Wild animals cannot live with mankind without noticeably changing their own habits and behaviors.

Those who think otherwise are far more cruel in the long run than us stupid ol' hunters.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
Nettermann: Why do you call her a hypocrite? You love your pets but killing other animals so ?


Pardon me while I ignore you for the next several hours - It is a beautiful fall day and I am going squirrel hunting and then maybe I'll come back home and cook a big juicy steak and wash it down with the blood of all the innocent creatures I've killed over the years.

I probably will forego the veggies as I can't quite understand how anyone could kill a poor defenseless plant (which doesn't even have the ability to run away!) in order to sustain themselves.

confused I mean, geez! At least the critters have a bit of a chance, unlike the poor helpless legumes. grains and fruits you all are so fond of murdering. crying

Just can't quite figure you folks out - Bunch of plant murdering fiends! It saddens me and makes me shudder at the thought of an entire field of helpless, harmless LIVING organisms giving up their lives for your supper! Oh the shame!

Too sad... crying


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
ladichatterlee:
I'm the type of person who, for whatever reason, has always had a sense of comraderie with animals. They trust me. They seem to instinctively know I'd never hurt them.

When I lived out in the country some years back there used to be six deer that would come down to our pond every morning. I got as far as being able to stand close to them without them running away. Had I not moved away, I am sure I would literally have them eating out of my hands.

Nothing was more beautiful and peaceful and serene than seeing those deer standing by the pond on a cold fall morning, with the fog and mist rising up in the air, and the privilege of being able to watch them, since they normally stayed hidden way up in the hills. How anyone can destroy that is beyond me.


Oh, thank you Buddhachatterlee!

Budhachatterlee: When I lived out in the country some years back there used to be six deer that would come down to our pond every morning. I got as far as being able to stand close to them without them running away. Had I not moved away, I am sure I would literally have them eating out of my hands.


I have lived in the country my entire life and have gotten close enough to deer to tap them on the butt and let them know that they're not being as aware of their surroundings as basic survival instincts would dictate they should be. I do not feed animals, except domesticated ones, because I believe that is an injustice done to them by the ignorant - You are teaching them to become dependant upon and lose their natural fear of mankind which (as anyone who has ever witnessed a bear break-in or hit a "pet deer" with a vehicle knows) is dangerous to both the animals and humans.

You didn't mention the clothes I'm wearing in my main profile picture right now. I'm guessing it's because you know nothing about them (which doesn't at all surprise me). Well let me enlighten you: The shirt is made of buckskin and the pants from elkskin and the hat is of beaver felt. I made them myself from animals I killed. They are quite comfortable and warm and didn't cost me anything but time and a love and inborn respect for animals and an appreciation of the gifts they are capable of giving.

I have lived with and learned from several American Indian tribes and honor their beliefs and a way of life that is now all but forgotten by their own young men and women. But it will never be forgotten by me!

I doubt that you will care to know that I am not a trophy hunter - I do not, never have and never will display antlers on my wall. However I have used the antlers and bones of deer, elk and antelope for making knife handles, buttons and tools for knapping flint as well as a myriad of other useful items. It is part of my heritage and I will continue to do so as long as I live.

You may continue to live in your perfect little society surrounded world and I will continue to live in the real one. And you may feel free to continue to condemn my way of life and I will continue to frown at your hypocrisy and neither will change the other's mind. But in the end, I'll have the peace of mind that comes with knowing that I have lived my entire life with nature while you have only witnessed it from afar.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
ladichatterlee: Kansan, you call call it hunting; it's still KILLING. You can pray and give thanks; it's still KILLING.

I'm glad it makes you relax. Personally, I wouldn't be able to sleep nights knowing I had done such a thing. "Stewardship of nature"? Ha!

Stewardship of nature would be nurturing and caring for the animals, not killing them.

I don't need to kill an animal to understand how cruel and barbaric it is. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. But if it eases your conscience, more power to ya.

Are you killing these animals because you're homeless, jobless, don't know the way to your nearest Kroger so you can buy groceries? Been turned down by Food Stamp programs and the only way you can get food for your family is by hunting it down? If not, then there is NO excuse for killing animals, as far as I'm concerned.Those who don't hunt can never fully explain and those who do are devoid of compassion and conscience for animals can never fully understand.


The Kansan: Also, I will not argue with nor condemn those who do not hunt and I expect the same consideration from them.


Well, so much for playing nice...

With all due respect, you know nothing about me and have no business casting the aspersions and making the un-educated asumptions you have made. I'm guessing that you've never run over a squirrel or hit a deer with your car or slapped a mosquito or killed a fly or a spider? If you've done any of those things then you are nothing more than a hypocrite - If you claim to have never done any of those things, then I submit that you are a liar.

It's been said that opinions are like assholes and it's true insofar as I really don't care to hear yours.

I answered the thread title as honestly and openly as I could. I did not condemn or villify non-hunters as I have several friends who are non-hunters and respect them greatly. For the most part, they return that respect. But then again, they are ladies and gentlemen.

I am not trying to defend hunting - if you don't like it, that's fine, don't do it!

But I'm getting a little bit tired of un-educated individuals anthropomorphising animals in order to reinforce their own trite misbegotten beliefs and then trying to force those beliefs on others.

When you've gotten to know me and have become familiar with the walk I've walked then, and only then, will I place any credence in the talk you talk.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
"What is hunting for you?"


For me hunting is not only a way to procure additional <healthy> food for the table, but also a time to relax, reflect and meditate on who and what I am as well as where I've come from and hope to be going.

It's not solely about making a kill - that's why it's called hunting and not killing.

It is a way to test the skills I've aquired over the years and improve upon those skills. It is a way to honor the memory of my father and grandfather and their fathers and grandfathers.

Whether or not it is necessary to eat meat to live does not even enter into the equation. What is necessary is that hunting is part of me and my heritage and even though it may not be required in order to survive, it is certainly necessary on my part to hunt in order to live.

When I hunt I become one with nature and follow nature's rules. It should go without saying that I am extremely respectful of the animals I pursue and kill, both during the hunt and afterwords. I do not know of many vegans/vegetarians who give personal thanks to the soybean plant for providing their sustenance, but I certainly honor the creatures who's lives I take by doing exactly that.

I do not hunt to survive, but I do hunt to live. To do otherwise would be to forget the face of my father and his father and his father's father and that would show a disrespect that I simply am not capable of.

I won't argue conservation because I've already seen that the majority of those who condemn hunting do not know or care about or believe in man's stewardship of nature.

Also, I will not argue with nor condemn those who do not hunt and I expect the same consideration from them.

I have done my best to answer the thread/poll title "What is hunting for you?" and I could go on for several more pages. Instead, I'll end this post with the following caveat:


...Those who hunt can never fully explain and those who don't can never fully understand...


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
...Someday I'm going to 'fall forward' and 'spring back' just so I can tell everyone that I'm on "Daylight Wasting Time."



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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
...Thought I was going to be tricking - then I found out that a Pinata is NOT a good idea for a Halloween Costume... sigh

(Also, it's not a good idea to dress as the Grim Reaper and then go into a Nursing Home and holler "Next!")

...Words to the wise. Use them as you choose...


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
azdesperado72: There are two types of murderers. Some are animals and some are humans that got into a situation for a particular reason.

I have no issue with putting a rabid animal down.


Those of us familiar with the subject know that not even rabid animals behave in the manner of the defendants in this case.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
If at first you don't succeed, then please don't offer to catch me if I fall!


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: They may have had a tortured life and as long as they are off the streets and the world will be safe from them. They will never be thought of again.


By the general public, no. But by the families of those taken by these horrific crimes, you can bet they'll be thought of every single day... sigh


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
We all know how literally impossible it is to not offend SOMEONE these days, everyone is just SO DARN TOUCHY... So this guide will help you on how to speak about the opposite sex in a POLITICALLY CORRECT way...

HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WOMEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

She is not a BABE or a CHICK; she is a BREASTED AMERICAN.

She is not a SCREAMER or MOANER; she is VOCALLY APPRECIATIVE.

She is not EASY; she is HORIZONTALLY ACCESSIBLE.

She is not DUMB; she is a DETOUR OFF THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY.

She has not BEEN AROUND; she is a PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED COMPANION.

She is not an AIR HEAD; she is REALITY IMPAIRED.

She does not get DRUNK or TIPSY; she gets CHEMICALLY INCONVENIENCED.

She is not HORNY; she is SEXUALLY FOCUSED.

She does not have BREAST IMPLANTS; she is MEDICALLY ENHANCED.

She does not NAG YOU; she becomes ORALLY REPETITIVE.

She is not a SLUT; she is SEXUALLY EXTROVERTED.

She is not a TWO BIT WHORE; she is a LOW COST PROVIDER.


HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT MEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

He does not have a BEER GUT; he has developed a LIQUID GRAIN STORAGE FACILITY.

He is not a BAD DANCER; he is OVERLY CAUCASIAN.

He does not GET LOST ALL THE TIME; he INVESTIGATES ALTERNATIVE
DESTINATIONS.

He is not BALDING; he is in FOLLICLE REGRESSION.

He is not a CRADLE ROBBER; he prefers GENERATIONAL DIFFERENTIAL
RELATIONSHIPS.

He does not get FALLING-DOWN DRUNK; he becomes ACCIDENTALLY HORIZONTAL.

He does not act like a TOTAL ASS; he develops a case of RECTAL-CRANIAL INVERSION.

He is not a MALE CHAUVINIST PIG; he has SWINE EMPATHY.

He is not afraid of COMMITMENT; he is MONOGAMOUSLY CHALLENGED.

He is not QUIET; he is a CONVERSATIONAL MINIMALIST.

He is not STUPID; he suffers from MINIMAL CRANIAL DEVELOPMENT.

He is not SHORT; he is ANATOMICALLY COMPACT.

He does not CONSTANTLY TALK ABOUT CARS; he has a VEHICULAR ADDICTION.

He is not UNSOPHISTICATED; he is SOCIALLY MALFORMED.

He does not EAT LIKE A PIG; he suffers from REVERSE BULIMIA.

He does not HOG THE BLANKETS; he is THERMALLY UNAPPRECIATIVE.

He doesn't have a DIRTY MIND; he has INTROSPECTIVE PORNOGRAPHIC MOMENTS.

I hope these have helped!


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
Konigsberg: And what is a Harley? No matter


A Harley is a machine. I prefer an animal between my legs - Wait, that didn't sound right! sigh rolling on the floor laughing


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
Konigsberg: Oh Man! You have typical biker image ... You may sit on a Harley Naked. So freaking sexy, I can see it already .... and I want that Calendar NOW! Purrrrr


LMAO laugh

How about on a horse? Just use your imagination! rolling on the floor laughing


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
About the only personal rule of thumb I have anymore is that the more rules there are, the more likely people will thumb their noses at them.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
God no! If it were for a charity, I would hope that it would raise money - If I posed nude for the damn thing, all it would do is make people puke and nobody would buy it.


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
Met a few... Sam Elliot and Senator Bob Dole are the first that come to mind, both unique individuals and solid, upstanding men.

Also met authors Terry C. Johnston and Dr. John Baird. Became good friends with both of them.

Reckon there's others, but I'm still on my first cup of coffee...


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The_Kansan Claxton (Powell), Tennessee USA
venere08: They are THAT large?

Good idea to give them some protection at least!


Actually, they're three different sizes; 1 7/8" - 2" and 2 1/4"

The only problem I generally have is when I can't get the holes to line up when I switch them around. sigh


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