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I can't remember my great-grandparenst or my maternal grand-father because they passed away before I was born ...

My own grandchildren however, know and remember their great grandparents (my parents). There is 4 generations of us, starting from my parents down (including my sibblings, partners and their own kids) who still get together although not nearly often enough do we manage to ALL be under the same roof at the same time!! When we do there are 18 of us spread through 4 generations. In this case the positives far outweight the negatives ...

Exactly.

It brightened up my evening and my morning!

Rebel, your views I do not agree with, I can see where you are coming from though and I respect that, but an interesting debate, thank you.

From one adult to another...

How many woman have you really 'flipped' over?..

i agree with ex rebel too,when something hasnt worked once,its rare it works out again,dont anyone take this the wrong way,but i find too many clicks on this forum,where anyone with a slightly different opinion gets slaughtered and certain people stick together.although ex rebel im sure you dont need me to stand up for you,you have done a good job at doing it yourself

I am talking about those Teachers!!!

I like that attitude.

Wonderful, you are not so bad you know, XREBEL, Tina, come back and answer the man.

i agree with ex rebel,the relationship didnt work in the first place,why waste your time again,the world is full of people with no baggage,move on and stop dwelling on the past

i agree with ex rebel,the relationship didnt work in the first place,why waste your time again,the world is full of people with no baggage,move on and stop dwelling on the past

You really ought to go and slap the Poop out of your Teachers!
They deserve it!!!!

XREBELThe bold statement there is a sign that you have a closed mind.

People have different opinions, not that anyone here does not have the guts. Not about guts, it is about sharing our thoughts in a respectful manner, most people here can do that. Having the talent to debate in such a manner, is a wonderful trait that many people here have. Your thoughts are appreciated, and respected, but to be honest, I am not fond of being told how I should think. You have not made an enemy of me, or anyone else, you have mentioned the word enemy, that is what I mean about your nature being combative. I can imagine when you talk to people you stand there with your arms folded.

Who has mentioned that feelings are hurt? Only you and we are all intelligent enough to know that we are here of our free will. But I do get the point XREBEL.

I just do not agree with some of yours.

More emotional people are not always living in the past. I am a feeling person, a nurturing, kind caring one, I know that about myself, I have been all of my life, but I do not see a problem with that.

Some people are hard, unable to negotiate, unable to reason and believe that their thoughts are what everybody else around them should subscribe too.

The mind is a fragile piece of equipment, I am emotionally secure, like you, but that does not mean I have to see things your way.

Being emotionally secure is great, emotional intelligence is a different bottle of wine altogether.

You know your mind amazes me.

Women are more emotional than men, but that is not to say that men are not emotional.

I have met some wonderful emotionally intelligent men.

I cannot remember my Great Grandfather, he died long before I was born.

My children could forsake me yes, but raising as I have I think that is unlikely to happen.

Life is not negative, people are negative.

I am realistic, but that does not mean I have to agree with you.

You know, people can disagree with you, it is their right to voice their opinions.

DO you have a partner?

We all have a past, whether we have learnt to live with it and move forward.

I disagree.

You came back.

'Baggage' is a term that I do not subscribe to,

I call it a 'past'

We all have one,

Our past is part of us, it has contributed to our lives, this lady has a child, as does Phoenix, they are not baggage, these children are not baggage, they are part of these two people.

These children have parents, aside from the two who are here, there are another two parents, same as me, I have a father to my children, he will always be in my life, as the father of my children,

I feel for you, you are really quite combative, soften your soul, your heart and your attitude, you may just then have a life without prejudice.

I was going to post this on the int forum but decided against it, for lots of reasons..

Sometimes I take the piss, I enjoy having a good laugh..I'm only human .Anyway, a little while back I flipped over a girl here in France..probably the 1st time in my life (it's a very close call)...

Some back ground..

I basically walked into the office of 'le fleur de beton'(she was single) and said hello.. I'm Johnny cash. We both share the same out look in life, listen to the same type of music (really not much difference)..she cancelled a holiday in Thailand and went to Mayo instead, losing her deposit in the process just to see the Emerald Isle..

Our first date..I was about to watch a football match on tv, she phones asking to see me..It was 20:45..She didn't have the right to phone me at home. I told her she wasn't very professional but accepted her offer and we went to a Chinese place in the 15th..she paid(I offered), then she paid for the taxi to her place..

To cut a long story short, she had a little girl (i'm not the father) and she's no longer with the father...I know this because on another site( here in France, for putting friends in touch) I seen her profile and with the info she gave and her address, she is no longer with the father and single...

We seperated because at the time I had too much emotional baggage. I can 'google' her name and see her photo every day and guess all I'm asking is.....Do I mail her through the site to say hello or just let sleeping dogs sleep.

I will only take on board serious replies. When I said flipped, cut my legs off and call me shorty.............................

Thank God for guys like you and Soli!!!!

Hi X_REBEL

I am bloke, and I totally argree with you, us men haven't learnt through history......

Thats why the world is in this bloody mess. Maybe I've misunderstood your point of view, which is possible, I got very pissed last night and i'm slightly hung over.

But I get the impression that you still live in the dark ages. That women should be bare foot, pregnant and chained to the kitchen. And us blokes are the only ones allowed to be the bread winners.

If you want to way back in time, I think you will find that originally it was the women who were the 'hunter-gather' not us blokes. We generally sat aroud the camp fire grunting, scratching ourselves and picking our noses. If you a spare hour whack on NAT GEO and watch any documentary on lions..it's the female who does the hunting and killing so the pride can continue. The male lion does basically nothing but eat and sleep.

I think it is unjust that women get paid less for doing the same job as a bloke. You probably disagree. But if they do the same number of hours each week, then at the end of the month they should get the same number of green backs.

As for women entering politics...if George W. was a woman, surely our wee planet would be a safer place.

Personally I think you have too much testerone, if that is the case check out another thread here on the 'EU' forum under jokes/humour by JAN1305...should be good for your prostate.

When was it ever like that?

I thought it was always man and woman pairing up to build a life together, and each doing what was neccessary to promote a better future for each other. It makes no difference to me who's better at whatever task is at hand.
I don't feel threatened by a woman that wants to have a career or do what was once considered "man's work". That line of thinking should have died alongside the dodo bird.

It's time the patriarchal, religion influenced BS ended once and for all. The world would be a much better place.

Think outside the box and you'll see that I am not missing the point.. Women leading men to their downfall?! That is the box, and we should all get out of it. I am a humanist, and I only believe in this thing called the human race, all other sub-groups and stereotypes are of no interest to me (women vs men, one race vs another, one religion vs another)

Mmmmmmmm!

It think you're a little confused ... I doubt a knight would be involved with a woman who worked the fields ...

Medieval Serfs and Peasants
A medieval village or manor usually contained several classes of laborers, consisting of serfs and peasants (men AND women).

The daily life of a serf was hard. The Medieval serfs did not receive their land as a free gift; for the use of it they owed certain duties to their master. These took chiefly the form of personal services. Medieval Serfs had to labor on the lord's domain for two or three days each week, and at specially busy seasons, such as ploughing and harvesting, Serfs had to do do extra work. The daily life of a serf was dictated by the requirements of the lord of the manor. At least half his time was usually demanded by the lord. Serfs also had to make certain payments, either in money or more often in grain, honey, eggs, or other produce. When Serfs ground the wheat he was obliged to use the lord's mill, and pay the customary charge. In theory the lord could tax his serfs as heavily and make them work as hard as he pleased, but the fear of losing his tenants doubtless in most cases prevented him from imposing too great burdens on the daily life of the serf.

Knights

Medieval ladies found glorification when a knight would select her to be his chosen one. For a knight, this could mean any lady, except his wife. According to the "rules" of courtly love, a knight had to promise to be ardent, secretive, and above all, courteous. No matter how long the love was unrequited, a knight had to be true.

Rules evolved-such as chosen women given a ring should wear it "on the little finger of their left hand, and always keep the stone hidden inside her hand." When writing letters, they refrained from using their proper names so their identities could never be revealed.

Church leaders were distraught with this new movement, fearing that knights would lose sight of their religious obligations. This stance was softened somewhat, when they learned that some of the best songs of courtly love were being written by monks and nuns.

A double standard existed within these rituals as well, for where knights might boast of their chosen lady, women, especially those who were married had to be quite cautious who learned of this relationship. If a man found out he was being cuckolded, he might repudiate his wife, and have the man castrated or executed. Fathers of the women might be exiled and their lands seized. Need I write a conclusion for you or do you want to do it yourself?