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Hugz_n_Kissez: Nothing irks me more than either fake pics or pics that people use from 10 years ago...How many times have people met and they looked nothing like their pics...because a) it was someone elses pic they used or b) it was a pic of them from 10 years ago????? It's a total waste of someone's time and effort....
Anyway..So how old are your pics?????
Mine were just taken on October 30...I look a little different...a bit slimmer maybe after being sick for 5 weeks...in bad need of a haircut since my last pics and also of some blond highlights....

princemuncher: What makes the Bible have any more verasity than the Book of Mormon, the Eddas, or the Book of the Dead?

All of these were "Inspired" by the god(s) of the time.

So, if the NT is the end all be all of life an religion, what happens to the Jews? After all they WERE the chosen people first.

God broke his covenant with them if Christianity is the true religion. That means he changed his mind.

Which make him FAR from infallible.

Therefore, not a god.

MikeHD: I do find it very interesting as to how so many are so confident that the bible is the fantasy of some very imaginative and over zealous monks, or that it is the product of the council of Nicaea, or that it someone’s cruel joke on the world. The fact that the bible is, is a miracle in and of itself. Who ever wrote it had to be the genius of all geniuses. It is, after all, an impossible book to write. The following is an article that I believe will kick start this thread. I know there will be many that will not take the time to read it, and others will only read what they want in search of that precious statement to take out of context, but I think this is a good beginning for what could be a lot of fun. I know it will take some time to present all the evidence, and I am not that fast, but bear with me. I have a significant library, and will do my best to defend all the age old arguments I am sure will surface. I am not getting everything off the web, and taking it as face value. I first read this article in 91, before I ever heard of the internet.

I would like to address one issue now before I forget. I have heard it said that men picked and chose what books to put in the bible, and that is very true (though I believe the were directed by God, and at the authors were given the words by God). They used several filters to select which got in and which got out. The main criteria used is do the writing agree with all the other writings. Some people want to use this as evidence that the bible is false or flawed. I am not sure what reasoning they use in this line of thinking. If I wrote a book that stated I found out, through person experience and experimentation, that everything written in scientific journals was false, that the period table was inaccurate, that Einstein was totally wrong, that we are not made up of atoms and molecules, that D-O-G actually spelled cat, and that water was really fire, and then I demanded that my book be treated as an equal with all of the other great science books written by man. And if you chose to disregard my findings you were only showing you had something to hide, you would just laugh as you tossed my work into the garbage. Why? Because it did not match what was already found to be true. Now an example of how this works here. The Gnostic Gospels taught Jesus was never a man in the flesh (which I find funny because the DaVinci Code used to try to prove Jesus was only a man). They taught that all flesh was evil, and so Jesus could never have taken flesh because he was too pure. If Jesus was only spirit, then He could not have died. If He did not die, then He did not die for me and the penalty of my sin remains unpaid and I have no hope for salvation. I will have to stand before God guilty without any counsel, and without anyone able to pay my penalty. These teachings obviously conflict with the entire message of scripture, so out they go. I mean why leave them in? Why would you include my teaching that D-O-G actually spelled cat in a scholastic spelling book? Or are you one who thinks all points of view should be considered equal? That D-O-G may actually spell cat from a certain point of view. Postmodernism is a crazy thing, and it is coming.

BnaturAl: yep for 600 years Mithras was THE saviour of the planet, born of a virgin, dying for our sins, rising again... ..

Dawn7z: I understand that before and this time and I have told you to not be so arrogant. It is not totally fact it is still a theory not the Law of Evolution.
I understand the basis of how the physical sciences measure things. I don't quarrel with you on evolution. My problem I guess is with attitude that sees only the physical material world and allows nothing else.
I certainly hope Credulous that you have an experience that is not based on the physical observable world and end up not being able to explain it.
I am not arguing for a deity here just that empirical evidence alone can't explain this marvelous planet and the universe we live in.

BnaturAl: there is nothing like:

christian whining
christian superiority
christian censorship

Its bad enough you feel only you have some right to post your own beliefs, then when someone comes along who has the information (not belief) that christianity is the most heinous thing ever perpetrated on the psyche of man, well all of a sudden because you feel hurt and wooosie, that right (my right, all things being equal) to opinion is tainted because its just not christian enough. Censorist christianity..

you attack people, not the issues, not the facts or the information, presented.

You've done exactly what you whine about and that comes out as christian hippocracy

Check your own stir stick, it's covered in wa wa wa.

Moema: Just a comment before leaving.

People studying Theology study LOTS AND LOTS of Philosophy. What you guys are discussing is far beyond "I believe" and "I don´t believe"; that discussion is a big all-timer one and the reasoning behind it is really interesting. It´s worth taking a better look at if anyone´s really willing to go deep in the subject.

I´m just going to leave you with a pearl the priest at my church (when I was a kid taking catecism) once proposed to us kids, to give us a better idea of the meaning of faith.

"Is God omnipotent and omnipresent?"
We´d been taught to say yes to whatever the Bible said without thinking about it, so we said yes.

"So, can He make and egg where he´s not inside of it?"
He laughed at us so hard, the good man, as we gave him a shocked, stupid look.

He was trying to teach us how to think, and to tell the difference betewwn reason and faith. He said, "Faith has NOTHING to do with reason. Either you BELIEVE, or you DON´T. They are distinct aspects of our beings".

I was never able to believe without proof or reasoning, so I left the church, and I sort of admire people who have faith, because they have something I will never have or understand. They know something I don´t.

I only have one thing against faith: it should not blind you. You shouldn´t think you and you only know truth. There is nothing so scary and so noxious to humanity as dogma and fanatism.

That´s how the library of Alexandria got burned, how Athens was bombed, how the indians were massacred, how all the atrocities in History were ever performed.

PietroPaoloV: Jesus, all these versions of vegetarianism!

How many different are there? As many as species of animal of this world, I dare guess.

- I don’t eat meat, but I do eat fish
- I don’t eat meat or fish, but I do eat egg
- I don’t eat meat or fish or egg or anything produced by an animal
- I only eat carrots and turnips, everything else is evil!
- I only eat gravel, pieces of drift wood and the occasional cardboard box
etc etc etc

Us who like our meat and fish, we only have two.
1. Vegetarian, NOT!
2. Cannibal

I think by now it’s only fair if we could have our own million versions. For starters, there’s no name for those who get a huge stake with potato and a load of vegetables on the side, who eat the potato, feast on the steak, but when asked why they’re not eating the vegetables, they give you this look: You weird, or something?

kidatheart: Luck or lunch? Getting hungry here....

rasgumby: Great point!
If open to have sex with anyone... how do you know who you are having the relationship with after all??

or is the relationship the one you are helping pay the bills?

what a lousy life.

Truly love no one, respect no one and in the end will be a looser. all around.

I have known a few people in these "so called" relationships.. all ended the same....They sleep around till they find "the one" and end up leaving their original partner for something they feel is better.

Even knew two couples that were best friends. Straight (NORMAL)relationships.

one of the husbands died, the widow was so depressed, so the second mans wife talked her husband into having sex with the widow to help her over the trauma of her husband passing, and to assure her that she is still attractive, that she can still get another man.

so her husband did so.. but he liked it so much that he left his wife for the wodow

So the way I see it.... the second wife got what she deserved

mindfful: SHREWSBURY (WBZ) ? A Shrewsbury school bus driver has been fired for dropping off a fourth-grader a mile-and-a-half from her normal stop because she changed seats without permission.

"It was pretty scary," said the child, Cyrena Medbury, who told WBZ's Ron Sanders she'd moved to the front of her bus when it stopped because the ride's less bumpy up there. "And when I got to the front seat, my bus driver just yelled at me to get off the bus; and he is a really scary guy so I actually listened to him."

"I was all alone walking but I started to run just in case he would keep yelling at me," Cyrena said.

Cyrena would have had to walk along busy Route 9 or along South Street, which is also busy, and cross Route 20.

"All very scary, especially Route 20," said Melissa Doyle.

She explained that a girl who rides the same bus told her father what had happened. That father then found her and gave Cyrena a ride home.

"Who knows if she would have gone in the wrong direction and gotten lost, got picked-up by some crazy person, got hit by a car...I really have to thank the man and his daughter who brought her home safely," Melissa Doyle said.

There was no answer at the home of bus driver Donald Davison Jr., who was fired.

"He was very remorseful," said Ronald Ernenwein, who owns the bus company, AA Transportation. "It's a scary thing and certainly something that we take very seriously. It was a bad judgment for a driver that has had a great record."

"I was shocked because he was her driver since first grade," said Melissa Doyle. She filed a report with Shrewsbury Police who say they're investigating.(© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

BnaturAl: they are like people who won't let go of their toy god..

kidatheart: I don't have a problem with anyone believing whatever they choose to, but I don't like the division that results from differing beliefs or the labels placed upon individuals. I refuse to be labeled as anything other than me, an individual.

This whole business of "uneven yoking" is for oxen. Which none of us are, we're people, first and foremeost, and what our beliefs are second or even further down the list of things that are important, at least to me anyway.

I'm not out to change anyone, or their beliefs.