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WOW...quite a mix there Jax...

oohhh, that reminds me....I HATE opening those tubes of premade biscuit dough----you press and press and it pops when it wants to....

Oh my, we didn't hear any hate from the Bush administration that wasn't covered with manipulation anyway.

go to a predominately black church in Chicago and then get back to me...I never said that his words were right..I SAID THAT THEY WERE UNDERSTANDABLE.... please quit pretending that there in no racism in America...it's getting a bit unnerving for you to do that.....

not nearly as much as going to Iraq to kill our soldiers..........

And this is wrong....how??

***Are we really willing to pay to go "Green"
<----------I did!!

I have seen some tv advertising on them. Have not look into to much.
Thanks for the site.

Give us a hybrid or electric that can pull out a bass boat that is on a stuck trailer
on a boat ramp.....with a good price......and you got a winner around here....
I think.

Is'nt there some people in Africa that need saving?Brad Pitt and his wife will help..FOR SURE>HA!!!

No,
I just hate other peoples children.


Hope I got the right thread this time.

There is such a thing as the ''Spirit of the Olympic Games''.
In Ancient Olympia wars were suspended and death sentences could not be carried out for the duration of the Games.

The effort atheletes make to excel/surpass their physical selves are sacred, imo, and their road is long.
Very often there is no second chance to compete/prove themselves.
The Games used to be considered sacred too.
Even now, you all know, there is no greater honour than to have been an Olympic Champion.
I myself, believe the athletes competing deserve to be honoured with our presence, our support and our recognition..... at the very least.

Traditionally the Olympics promoted fellowship and peace. I don't believe they should be used for political/human rights purposes, even ones of such great significance.....

I hope you all won't think that I'm putting the Olympic Games above the tragic plight of the peoples of this world.....
'Cause I'm not.
I just think they should be kept separate.

oops wrong thread.
apologies, really,

You never know what her and Frank were doing. Probably EVERYTHING!!

Hi Jax

I am glad to see the thread.

In South East USA, we some problems with some of the alternative electical production systems. Imagine a wind mill farm following a 100+ mph wind hurricane passing. What you would see is a lot broken turbine blades on the ground.

Also we get long periods of time with heavy overcast here. Yes I know....countary to what the Florida Tourism boards tell you to visit sunny Florida. But such overcast reduces the effectiveness of the solar electric systems. They still do place solar cells on the houses here and there is a state lawed utility pay back program on kwa going into the grid system.

The big thing that many here are looking at is the 'thin film' solar cells.
They are low cost, light weight and very efficient in making electricity.
So unlike the heavy solar cells, they are easy to place and will not weight down a roof.

On the electric car. A real question there for most American....that love our big hp vehicles is this. I am passing someone in a electric that I have been using for a time.......its batts are down.......and I am trying to get around a car doing 70 on a two lane road. I pull out to pass the guy, and don't have enough juice to go over 75. This is not a good situation.....as that 18 wheeler coming in the other direction at 75 gets closer and closer and closer.

The electrics and the hybrids have the range to do well. But do they have the horse power to survive on our roads? Where I live.......hemi power dual wheel drive cab trucks are a standard for many. Putting a electric on the road with them is like putting a lamb into a wolf convention. The lamb is not going to like the experience.

Apparently we're not even will to pay a little bit of money. I watched an interesting documentary called "Who Killed the Electric Car". There was alot of talk about Government, the Automotive Industry, and Major Oil Corporations; but the bottom line is we killed the electric car. Because not enough of us really cared enough to make it a viable option.