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Shewolf55: That's why I asked him Dru.

Some men seem to get real quiet about that. Beauty is beauty... we should be able to appreciate it in any form, even our own gender.

RayfromUSA: Actually it surprises me. I would have thought I'd be freaked out about it all. But as it happens it just becomes a part of normal life, not nearly as awful as I would have imagined.

In Christian terms, God has given me the grace to take it pretty much in stride.

It's not "fun" to be sick but still life goes on and has its little pleasures.

It's like the old woman who only had two teeth, one upper and one lower. And she was happy about it, saying "at least they meet".

spiderbulgaria: Call me shallow, nothing turns my head more than a beautiful looking women. Beauty is to be admired no matter what form it comes in, a beautiful painting, an amazing sunset, a brilliant piece of engineering, you get my dift.

RobertC2: Methinks epicure got food and sex all mixed up!

A man NEEDS food............ he can always get some casual sex when he's had the sustenance he needs to keep being an alpha male!

VeganGoddess: Mine is getting an email from a guy who can spell favorite and fantasy. lol.

Sorry & no offense but couldn't resist. ;)

rockandrollrn: lady phoenix....as a nurse...we get direct admissions from other emergency room....guess what...when we get report from the paramedic...their eyes are giving patient report on the nurses mammary glands....thats mens sense of vision i guess...i got complaints from my nurse assistant with these all the time...

men are also touchy...

as a recovery room /post anesthesia nurse, when a patient comes to us after surgery, the male patients hands either adolescent/child/adult are usually stationed on their front private part...

so i beleive...men are visual and touchy....

jeepers: Keep trying. You know you want to kick the habit, just do it !!
Drink lots of water and chew gum or mints...anything.

You'll be okay Dru. Don't let yourself buy any more. If you don't have em, you can't smoke em.

Have a great weekend !!

RobertC2: Why are you covering your boobs with your arms then?

LadyPhoenix1965: Got a really interesting comment on this in my email:

I read part of the stuff about men being visual. I didnt read all 4 pages mind you because frankly I got tired a long time ago over hearing from the same people on there. I wanted to put my 2 cents worth in and I am hoping someone didnt cover this already. If it was on one of the pages I apologize. Men are very visual. All these so called experts are so far from the real truth though. It means men like to see women...period. If they happen to be topless or naked then even better. We really dont much look at whether they are in versace or not. For example... take a huge breasted girl and put her in a sweatshirt and parade her in front of us. The only thing that crosses our minds is how big they are and what are the chances she might just lift the shirt out of the blue. Im honest when I tell you that we really only are interested in the parts not the packaging. That is why, for instance, we hate it when you ask if this makes you look fat. We are only interested in whether you are still attractive naked. That is the truth my dear. I heard some say that women are visual too. Thats crap. They are cerebral. They want to be caressed and cooed etc. We want to see it and you want to feel it. I also have news for everyone. I dont care if the man is 99 or if hes been married 50 years or if he loves you with all his heart and you know for a fact he would never cheat on you etc etc. A woman walks by anywhere and at anytime and we find a way to look. We are usually thinking what she would look like naked as well. So..if you want a pointer from me. If ever you want to attract as man, dont worry about the fancy designer threads. The high heels you mentioned help but show a little cleavage or a little leg and we are there. Take it from an HONEST guy. Skin sells for us. Dont believe me then ask Hugh Hefner. Wanna talk more look me up. But dress sexy ok LOL
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LadyPhoenix1965: Thanks, Dru! I've met some really 'cool' women on here that I think I would get along well with. Too bad we couldn't all get together and really have a drink.

Nuliiiiiii: Irishman from (Kerry) went to USA (Texas ) to work as Electrical

Engineer and his 1st job was in a penitentiary,

The governor told him go check all electricals all over Prison

He did so and was very happy with how all looked and went back and

told the Governor ,sir all is in great shape and u should be very

proud .As he was leaving he was called back and was asked to

check the cell with the electric chair b4 he finished .

Off he went to check and 6 hrs later the Governor was amazed it

took so long to finish this small job and went to check as to why.

when he went to room where he was working he was shocked to see

all the pieces from the chair all over place and the Governor

with stren face

asked what was happening ?Oh sir he said luckey u called me back

to check this chair because if u hadent someone may have died in

that damm chair .

venere08: Very funny, Nuliiiii

The not so funny thing is that one sees it so often, the dramatic change that comes over one or other partner, no sooner are the marriage vows stated. Suddenly, the ROLE...

ARMYguy07: i hate the fact that because im young older women just take one look and see me as TO YOUNG..age is just a number..

RayfromUSA: As some of you know, I have a serious degenerative neurological condition called hydrocephalus. What that means is that liquid is accumulating in the ventricles of my brain, gradually compressing the brain more and more.

I've had it ever since 1993 but it was totally misdiagnosed until just a couple of years ago. Too late to really do anything about it.

Anyway it's been slowly but steadily getting worse for all that time and now the process is accelerating. It began to affect my balance very slightly only 3 years ago, now its so serious I can barely walk. It also affects my vision, my coordination, my leg muscles etc.

Seen from my side, It's something like living on a Tilt-o-Whirl that never stops and being sick drunk at the same time.

If it continues to get worse, (and it almost certainly will) soon I won't be able to live independently. And by that time, I won't be able to do anything at all, so I have to take all the steps now to prepare. And in my shape that isn't easy.

So, please remember me in your prayers.
Especially that I will be able to get things accomplished.
There's a lot to do and everything is really hard for me.

shine74: I think sex is absolutely important in a relationship. It goes right along with passion. You can learn to communicate with a person but you can't learn to have passion with somebody. You either have it or you don't. As a woman I want to feel wanted not needed and sex is a big part of that. Sure sex isn't the only part of a successful relationship but I feel it definitely plays a big part.

stanley8m: Yes it is important, in my opinion a relationship without sex would be a friendship.

jeepers: Stating day #24 !!!! I'm winning !!

LadyPhoenix1965: I used to generalize my comments to 'all men' when my marriage went sour and then I got divorced. I was all about spewing my negative man venom, until one day my dad said: "Gee, thanks kid." Three little words knocked me for a loop. I started to look around at my life and realize some things: my dad is a good man; my brother is a good man; my son is growing into a fine man... I won't do that anymore. There are some men who only think with one tool, but they are individuals. There are also some women who are bitter and tainted and make the rest of us look bitter for posting an honest question. We ALL need to stop generalizing and meet each person as an individual, worthy of a fresh start.

LadyPhoenix1965: I think you're right, Friends. When I wear a nice pair of jeans, do my makeup, put on a pair of 'clipclop' shoes and a 'sexy' top, I walk differently, I can feel it in myself. Maybe that's the trick to all this.