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I don't have my final grade, but I made a 93.5 on my research paper. It was 20% of my grade, so I now have a 91.56 without my final. I am in fairly good shape for an "A".

I just have to wait.

Sorry, brain to frazzled to construct any good arguments right now.


But then I would think most of you will be asking "How does that differ from your usual inability to mount a good argument?"





I will be back as soon as I can.


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Thank you sir.


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Hey Crotalus, I didn't drop of the earth yet.


I have an English paper due tomorrow. I also have a final tomorrow night.

It's not easy staying away, but I have to get this done, and then I will have some time.

It will take me awhile to read through all the pages.



THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR 31 PAGES OF POSTS!!!


Talk to everyone soon.

P.S. Trish, I will be starting Mr. Dawkins this weekend. I read slow, but I will be reading.


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Wow, my thread has over 500 posts with almost 3500 views...

I love it!


Thank you everyone.

I would especially like to thank all of you presenting arguments here to keep things going (yes I will even thank Crolatus).

You guys are awesome!




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Told ya.

Not after evidence.

You can't find evidence for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman.


You don't really want it.




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Are you really asking for ANY evidence? Or if I give you some, will you just say it does not count?


Let us see...


Kidatheart, if we were standing in the middle of a town square and I asked you if the tallest visible building had an architect, you would say yes, right?

If I asked you if you knew his name or if you had met him then you would probably say no (unless I was extremely unlucky and picked a building your uncle designed ), right?


Then I would ask you what is your evidence that the building actually had an architect, and you would say the building itself is the evidence. That makes sense doesn't it?


Now if I pointed at a tree, and I told you I believed that God was the architect of that tree, you would probably ask me to prove it. I would then use the same evidence (evidence you will probably now poo poo) that you did with the building.

What is so strange is how much more complex the tree is than the building, and yet we content it no one to design it.


There Kidatheart...

I gave you what should qualify under "any" evidence.

It's not pretty or irrefutable, but it's evidence none the less.


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Talk about sparks in a relationship...


Trish, you will be proud of me. This morning I picked up a copy of Richard Dawkin's "The God Delusion". Now I know your going to say something like buying it and reading it are two different things, or "I will be proud of you when you read it", but I do plan on digging into it.

However,

This thread is not about Richard Dawkins.

And I have yet to hear someone mount a concrete argument (something other that the thread is flawed or ignorant) against the basis for this thread. Sorry B, if you did have a good argument, I did not understand it.

Anyway, I am so happy everyone is here again. I love you guys spending all this time with me.


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I have to go now, but please everyone keep beating the heck out of each other. LOL


Just joking.


Thank you all for a great day in CS. I will look for all the things you will say behind my back tomorrow. And hopefully I will get deeper into the question of Postmodernism.



Good night everyone!




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"Knowledge ceases to be an end in itself, it loses its 'use-value.'" Jean-Francois Lyotard


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Jean-Francois Lyotard is considered one of the fore fathers of the Postmodern movement.


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Dr. Ian Malcolm was almost eaten by a T-Rex.


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I hate to admit this, but Crotalus finally made sense to me.


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I am writing a paper on postmodernism. One I should be working on now since it is due on Wednesday. The more I learn, the more I see the coming age.

My position is to find jobs for college students, so I work with nothing but 17-23 yr olds. They could care less about religion, science, who is right, what is right, or anything else. They just want to carve out a nice life and the hell with the rest of the world. They don't argue about things because they don't care. They will just say "thats nice" and walk away. It is really scary. There is no moral constant. They believe that Hitler was only wrong from certain points of view. He is seen as right in others, and that is ok with them. They don't care who is right and who is wrong.

This is our future.


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OH I forgot about you again B. I apologize.

You keep spouting the post you have to be Dr. Ian Malcolm to understand.


Do you know who that is? Bonus points if you figure it out. (without the internet that is) LOL


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Trish you are something else.

I went to YouTube and looked up Dawkins. I have a problem though. I am at work and it is hard to watch videos at work for any sustainable time.

I also have to decide whether to watch Dawkins first, or watch all the rebuttals of Dawkins. I guess I will have to watch them both before I can come back in here. Why does talking to you always turn into work.

I am still recovering from that kiss...


offer.


You like across the ocean huh?


hmmmmm...


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Evidence of what?


Haven't you been reading? We don't believe in evidence in here. We play who can spout out the quickest philosophy or history, who can find the better sounding quote, who can find a scientific theory to support our skepticism. All we have to do is have a clever argument, give a cursory look at some so called evidence and come up with the pithiest quote we can find, and we win!!!

LOL

Isn't that right?

If you go back and read, that is sure what it looks like.




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I know, I know, but that bit about the reactive mind kinda hooked me for awhile.


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If you are talking about the post modern world view, then are you not also saying that we are kicking off our dependence on science as well.

In the “The Postmodern Condition” Jean-Francois Lyotard says scientific and rationalist discourses have lost their "legitimacy." Postmodernists reject the “Modern Spirit” that has motivated and inspired Western thinkers for the last 350 years, because they seem to believe that “reason” has betrayed us. Martin Irving wrote “Frederic Jameson defines Postmodernism as a movement in arts and culture corresponding to a new configuration of politics and economics, ‘late capitalism’: transnational consumer economies based on global scope of capitalism.”* I believe the postmodernist condemns the modernist, and places on them the blame of the world’s sad condition in light of what the “Age of Reason, or Enlightenment” promised humankind back in the 18th century.


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Thank you to everyone. I think this is post 340, making this my most successful thread ever.


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