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If you've never been to Quebec and had the french fries from a little roadside stand you don't know what good french fries taste like. What you get at McDonalds is a joke, half of which usually wind up in the garbage.

As to New Orleans, I think having a city built in the oxbow of the biggest river in America that's below sea level was a very flawed idea. The lower ninth ward is probably going to wind up a lake after Gustav gets done with it.


Should the White Elephant Die?: click here to read the entire thread »

I agree with you ttom, I think creationism should be taught in schools to the extent that at the end of a semester of teaching the science of evolution as the class is walking out the door, the teacher should call them back and say, "Oh BTW, there is a group of people who believe that the first man was created by a spirit who took a lump of clay from the ground and fashioned him into his fully evolved form by breathing life into him (though I don't know why a spirit has a need to breathe) and later he realized he forgot something (though I don't know how a spirit powerful enough to create a universe could overlook something like that) and made a woman out of one of the mans ribs (I guess this spirit ran out of clay). That's all folks, enjoy your spring break!"
How absurd!

Do you actually believe the Bibles version of how mankind has come to be in his present form?
If mankind all came from Adam & Eve, how do you explain black people, Asians, white people? How could these 3 races all come from the same 2 parents? Do you think maybe they EVOLVED into the 3 major races on this planet? Oh no that isn't possible because there's no such thing as evolution.

Oh BTW, if schools are required to teach creationism or intelligent design, maybe they should also teach alchemy and astrology so when the students graduate they can discuss these subjects intelligently too.

The irony of all this is that intelligent design IS being taught in schools all over the world. But it's being done by human beings not by spirits. It's being done by biologists who create new strains of corn & soy beans and by dog breeders who create new breeds (did god create a Boston Terrier?) and cattle farmers and it's even being done by everyday people when they select a mate based on certain characteristics such as height, strength eye color etc. It's called selective breeding, which I like to think of as Accelerated Evolution. Evolution is happening every minutes of the day. Every time a woman gives birth, it is proof of the process of evolution.

Sorry about veering off topic.


Poll on the McCain/Palin Presidential Ticket: click here to read the entire thread »

I find the similarities very interesting. both camps have a young inexperienced member and an old(er) experienced member.
The difference is, if the president died in office one from old age the other from some racially motivated violence, who would become president?
On the one hand you would wind up with a young inexperienced female hothead who is virtually unknown to the people. On the other you would wind up with an experienced, well respected, known person who would have no trouble assuming the role of president.

This is rapidly becoming an election where the vice president is more important than the president.

Right now! If you had to choose between Susan Palin or Joseph Biden for President of the United States, who would you vote for?

It has been assumed by a many that Hillary supporters were mostly women and it is because she is a woman and no other reason. I find this assumption to be false. Many people were for Hillary (me included) not because she is a woman but because this would have gotten Bill Clinton back in the Whitehouse.

I think the McCain camp picked Palin because they bought the assumption that the Hillary voter is gender biased toward a woman. I think they may have just made a very big mistake which will cost them in November.

The typical female Hillary supporter will be insulted to think that their vote could be won by such a cheap trick of putting a woman on the ballot.


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That is a very valid question. Why indeed? The reason is by tying them up for a long period and getting them to do things and go places, fill out forms, possibly even send you money for certain corporate fees for donating a large sum of money to them or anything you can do to make their life a lot more work you will be preventing them from scamming somebody else. It's called scam baiting but it's not for everybody. It can also be dangerous because these are not nice people.

There's a whole world you probably don't know exists where 100's of everyday people are engaged in turning the tables on these thieves and con artists. If you want to peek into this world go to:

http://www.419eater.com/


How to recognize scammers...........they are very slick at least the one I met: click here to read the entire thread »

Wow, beauty AND brains.


Democratic "RED MEAT?: click here to read the entire thread »

Might be a challenge to put a melody to those words.

I think "Georgia on my Mind" is safe for now.


To a Peach: click here to read the entire thread »

To a Peach

I planted your mother about 4 years ago.
I watered her and sprayed her and fertilized her.
In winter I pruned her dead wood
and clipped her errant twigs
I saw you when you sprouted as a bud
and then when you became a flower
I watched the bees as they caressed you
and sought nectar from you
you were green and hard as a rock
for months you grew bigger and bigger
now you are here and beaconing me
to pluck you from your mother limb
You smell so sweet so soft and so red
I cannot resist
You are mine,
my reward for all I've done
I want to save you but I can't
I must eat you lest you would rot
succulent peach,
you are worth all my efforts
I'm sorry beautiful peach but
you must die, that I might live


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I've decided to bump this thread because this is just too damn important an issue to let die and because there are a lot of new members who haven't voted in this poll.

I would also like to hear some more comments supporting your choice especially from any American who would vote to burn the constitution. If you would set a match to the constitution you must have some good reason to destroy all our rights and our freedoms that our sons and daughters have fought and died for for 100's of years.


Sophie's Choice -------of sorts: click here to read the entire thread »

"Rightttttt sticking our head in the sand, is why we were hit on 9-11.Fact the ones who hit was was trained right here in flying schools. "

I agree we were sleeping at the switch prior to 9/11 Just like we were on Dec. 7, 1941. I guess we are just too damn trusting a nation for a world like this. We give everybody the benifit of the doubt and trust before they actually earn it. But, the American people have a very long memory especially when we get stabbed in the back.

I saw an interview of some of the flight instructors after 9/11 and you can be sure they are carrying a load of guilt with them to this day. One guy said I should have suspected something was not right when my students never asked for instruction on how to land an airplane. It's all crystal clear now but at the time nobody questioned it.

Read this story from 1999 with what we know today and see if you don't agree that we have been sleeping a long time. Notice too that Iraq or Saddam was never mentioned. btw, Bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/11/16/egyptair/


Libby questioned on forged letter linking Saddam to 9/11 : click here to read the entire thread »

Point 1, The WMD's were moved is a popular myth perpetrated by people who just can't accept the fact that there were no WMD's and our president took us to war based on a mountain of evidence that it was a lie, a total fabrication.
"During his reign of several decades, he was internationally known for his use of chemical weapons in the 1980s against civilians and in the Iran–Iraq War. Following the 1991 Gulf War he also engaged in a decade-long confrontation with the United Nations and its weapons inspectors, which ended in the 2003 invasion by the United States.

The United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi WMD throughout the 1990s in spite of persistent Iraqi obstruction. Washington withdrew weapons inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox, which further degraded Iraq's WMD capability. The United States and the UK, along with other countries and intelligence experts, asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he must be prevented from building any more. Inspections by the U.N. restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[1] but hadn't turned up any evidence of actual WMDs when the United States and the "Coalition of the Willing" invaded Iraq and overthrew Saddam Hussein in March 2003.

Great controversy emerged when no stockpiles of WMDs were found, leading to accusations that the United States, its President George W. Bush in particular, had deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of the country. The non-partisan Center for Public Integrity asserted President Bush's administration made a total of 935 false statements between 2001 and 2003 about Iraq's alleged threat to the United States"

Point 2, He paid families money if their son martyred himself as a suicide bomber against Israeli's. So what! Do we not pay parents of soldiers killed in battle? There is no evidence he paid money before the fact.


Libby questioned on forged letter linking Saddam to 9/11 : click here to read the entire thread »

Isn't it interesting how different peoples idea of humor is. I started watching this movie and found it not only, not funny, but a total bore. By the time they got to the motel with 1 bed I couldn't take any more and switched channels, it was SO predictable! I kept wishing I was watching "The Out of Towners" instead with Jack Lemon & Sandy Dennis.


greatest funny movie of all time: click here to read the entire thread »

Darn it Ginger you beat me by 12 minutes with echo.


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"Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees."

I wonder if these detention camps will have showers for people to bathe which can be quickly converted to carry a gas instead of water.
I wonder if these detention camps will have a crematorium for disposing of the dead because a place that big will no doubt have a few deaths.
I wonder if the rail cars will have toilet facilities, water and ventilation for the "detainees" if not many of them will probably not survive the trip. oh, wait, that's a good use for the crematoriums. How wonderful it is when a plan comes together. Isn't it lucky for us we had the experience gleaned from the Third Reich on how to deal with millions of "undesirables".

It's my guess that when word gets out what's going on there will be no need for the INS because the millions of illegals will be leaving by the 1,000, I wonder if they'll have room in the wagon for me?



Rule By Fear Or Rule By Law: click here to read the entire thread »

First I'd like to congratulate your country on winning your first gold medal in the olympics. I watched your athletes performance and it was perfect. The smile and look of pride on his face was priceless.

It may interest you to know that the average American doesn't even know your country exists other than it was a member of the former USSR. I'm a lot older than you so I have vivid memories of the cold war and the damage it did to peace and stability in the world. I think I speak for all Americans when I tell you that the PEOPLE of the USA have not now nor ever had anything against the PEOPLE of Russia or any of the countries that made up the USSR. Unless I know nothing about human nature I'd bet the feeling is mutual too.

The cold war was a war of words, threats, fear and mistrust which could have and should have been avoided. The problem is though, that governments are made up of people, not always good people, people who are greedy, people who in some cases are paranoid or worse, have absolutely no regard for human life.
It would be wise for you to keep in mind that it wasn't the United States that took over half of Europe after World War 2 it was the Soviet Union that did. The big advantage we have over you is we KNOW our government is flawed, but you're still buying the propaganda you've been spoon fed since you were a baby.


Poll on the Obama/Biden Presidential Ticket: click here to read the entire thread »

14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt2


9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

You can read all the supporting documents right here.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Wake up America, we're losing our country.


14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1: click here to read the entire thread »

1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses

8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.




14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1: click here to read the entire thread »

[quote=Conrad73]Horses have a Lifespan from 25 to 30 years,so how would be a 14 year old Horse ready for the Glue-Factory?

Well I was speaking metaphorically, make that a 30 year old horse ok?

Amazing,to be privy to the secrets of the Reagan White House!

Maybe I was one of the select few eh?

Relocating to Cuba would even be better!

At least if I relocated to Cuba I wouldn't have to decide to eat or get needed medications the way so many poor Americans have to. Hey, I have a great idea, maybe I'll flee to Switzerland. Wouldn't you love to have me as a neighbor?

BTW conrad, I would piss on Fidel Castro and Vladimere Putin if I had the chance. Just because I am very critical of the current band of lying thugs who are running this country at the moment doesn't make me a communist.[/quote]


V.P. Joe Biden..... is Obama's Pic: click here to read the entire thread »

During the early days of the race I was rooting for Biden but a bunch of horney middle aged white ladies in Iowa couldn't get the thought of that big salami Obama was packing out of their silly heads so here we are. If it's true that Biden is the man I couldn't be more happy except if Obama chose Chris Dodd of Connecticut.

Considering the number of crosses Obama has to bear it's amazing how well he's done so far and if you buy into one of the biggest criticisms that have been leveled against him, namely his lack of experience, it's even more amazing how well he handles the grueling test of a run for the presidency. I can't think of another person with his level of experience who could have done so well to this point. It shows me that Obama is extremely intelligent and a very fast learner and I think he will do a damn sight better than some of the losers (not mentioning any names here) stupid misguided Americans have hired for that job.

Another thing that has been on my mind of late, especially when I hear people say they will vote for McCain, is there's a good chance that he won't live long enough to finish his first term let alone a second term, and McCain voters don't even know who will succeed him at this point. How can people vote for a president if they don't even know who he is? Because whoever McCain picks as a VP quite possibly will wind up as the president of the United States. Furthermore, why would anybody choose a man who just may turn out to be great, but is so old that there's no way he could handle a second term due to Alsheimers. Remember the last days of the Raegan administration when old Ronny was not much more than a cardboard cutout and Nancy was running things?
The irony is, this country has already had a female president, and nobody but a select few are aware of it.
So no matter how good McCain may turn out to be, you only get one shot. Now if McCain happens to choose Eric Cantor (the Senator from my state of Virginia as his VP, well, all I can say is God Forbid! If that Fascist boob should somehow wind up as president, I will relocate to Bolivia.

From a horse breeders perspective, you don't invest to sire your future stable on a 14 year old nag who's ready for the glue factory.


V.P. Joe Biden..... is Obama's Pic: click here to read the entire thread »

IMO the greatest funny movie was the original "The Producers" with Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder.

Another favorite from Woody Allen is "Take the Money & Run"


greatest funny movie of all time: click here to read the entire thread »

Hey they got a huge TV ad bill to pay. TV airtime aint cheap. That's what always goes through my mind when I see their ads.


Eharmony?still kicking myself.$$$$: click here to read the entire thread »