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i don't think it was de bait, just some people's way of de face.


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And you know ms. arabella, I'm in good shape so I have no shame about it. It's really sad that people have to run with the pack around here and jump in a wolf attack. Is it necessary? Does it make you feel better?


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Actually, nature has treated me pretty good Ambrose. Your jokes are more cruel.


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Ambrose did say yes first, that might have hurt his feelings.


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Don't be jealous of the nice legs now. All is good.


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Well okay, it works then.


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Well, he is well mannered, always polite, even in crazy obama threads. But he lives 1000 miles away from me, so it would be an expensive coffee date.


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No, it means they should lose their positions. The info Cheney got from the CIA was fixed. and that is what they had to go on. But still some didn't fall for it, so there is more to learn.


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I would like to try a date with you but you will have to make the accommodations.


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Maybe you should go back an re-read whatever it is you just posted because they are not my words.... Perhaps it's someone else who DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING

You apology is accepted by the way...[/quote]

That was a continued post to lulu


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I doubt if you even read it all. read about how Cheney set up his own separate agency in the CIA with Fieth who was found guilty of manipulating information it was found unethical but not illegal.


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color=crimson]WhatUwish4, thought by now Americans all understood that those in other countries are hoping and praying we get stuck with Obuttma, because it will weaken the country beyond belief, and then some of them may just decide to try and annex us or something. Would be in all their best interest to cause our decline, just not in our best interest.[/color]
Single dud "when Obama changes his views it is because of he is wise and can see a point in changing a little and then later he will adjust the issue for sure. when McCain flip flops it is because he is a lier and a cheater and beside because his memory is not that sharp any more..........."

My opinion I think this is fricken ridiculous.

When using this kind of bizarre rationalization for opinions, who can have any respect for them?[/quote]

Maybe I have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say to because I took this as you can't respect anyone who believes anything different than you.


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[quote=trublu]"opalbeauty wrote:
McCain is weak on foreign policy, weak on the economy, weak on imigration, a weak speaker. Hopefully, the Dems have caught on enough to get out of the way and let them hang themselves.
Polls show that people have bigger fears than terrorism now."

That one made me laugh so hard I just can't even come up with words to go over just how out of left field it was. DAMN FUNNY STUFF! Especially the part about letting him hang himself, guessing "she" meant with his own words, when Obuttma does it routinely. Why else would they have to lie about what those troops said? To make it look like it will even be enough of a race to bother with having it at all?

I meant people are fed up with the negative campaigning and fearmongering. They want to hear about how jobs can be created. The disapproval rating for the war is But I wouldn't expect you to comprehend because you will only believe what the Repubs tell you to believe. Here is a little info for you to think about....

May 1, 2008
Poll: Bush most unpopular in modern history
Posted: 02:30 PM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser


New poll numbers show bad news for president Bush.
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new poll suggests that George W. Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush his handling his job as president.

"No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president's disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

"Bush's approval rating, which stands at 28 percent in our new poll, remains better than the all-time lows set by Harry Truman and Richard Nixon (22 percent and 24 percent, respectively) but even those two presidents never got a disapproval rating in the 70s," Holland added. "The previous all-time record in CNN or Gallup polling was set by Truman, 66 percent disapproval in January 1952."

CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider adds, "He is more unpopular than Richard Nixon was just before he resigned from the presidency in August 1974." President Nixon's disapproval rating in August 1974 stood at 67 percent.


The poll also indicates that support for the war in Iraq has never been lower. Thirty percent of those questioned favored the war while 68 percent opposed the conflict.

"Americans are growing more pessimistic about the war," Holland said. "In January, nearly half believed that things were going well for the U.S. in Iraq; now that figure has dropped to 39 percent."

The numbers on the Iraq war come on the five-year anniversary of President Bush's "mission accomplished" moment onboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, when Bush proclaimed that "major combat operations in Iraq have ended."





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There was a lot of partying bickering and neither the Dems or Reps
are neither completely satisfied with that Judicial committee report.
There are impeachable offenses. I am not sure who it would inscriminate and I really wouldn't care. But I do think many of them were duped as much as the public. Or either they just didn't do their jobs and give such an important decision enough effort and consideration and they failed. So you may be right, there may be some cowards in power but not all of them. There were even Republicans who voted against the war and gave good thought out reasons for not invading Iraq. On either side it took guts to vote on principle and stand up to all the republican power and not be fooled by the manipulation that was going on at the time.

I can tell you this....I was supporting Hilary for President until I watched her in an interview with Tim Russert who was a straight shooter and will be missed by many. He ask her why she voted yes on the war. She said she went with the knowledge that she had at the time. He continued to question her. When that interview ended I believed that there was much more than she was admitting and she knew more and had even said more than she was admitting. In the end she seemed like a pretencious, power hungry politician. We all saw that side of her, she was even delusional. That is when I decided to support Obama, atleast he gave an honest assessment about the war from the beginning.

But this link is to wikipedia and it says what has been prooven and many will not even except....


Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein_and_al-Qaeda


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And they are all laughing while America's economy is destroyed.


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We would be defending ourselves if were ever attacked by Iraq or if Iraq actually did have anything to do with 9/11 or even financially supported Al-queda and Bin laden like Saudi Arabia does. and Bin Laden still has not been brought to justice but that is not what this war is about defending ourselves.


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No Sparky, we definitely would not lose. We are just playing it wise right now. Not feeding in to the fearmongers. GW has 6 months in office. We do not want to fight that battle now. I'm sure Republicans would be happy if we distracted from all the real issues of a presidential compaign right at this point. It would play right into thier game of "prove it" NOW....you've got 4 months. While you do that we will slaughter Obama's character and if McCain wins end of story. No thank you....we'll just win this election and see what can be done.


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In my opinion, it takes people with little conscience to do what Rove, Bush, Cheney and Co. have done. They played psychological warfare on America. Atleast Bush's rating suggest that people are not happy about status que, no matter what these few people on this forum who still deny he has done any wrong think.


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Tom, can you say Patriot Act?


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