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Skybow
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Posted: Today, 9:31 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
We shall see....it's always been about the "Clintons"


Shadows, agendas and wheels within wheels. Sometimes it just gives me a headache.

Clintons and Bushs,millionaires in bed with banks and oil makes me wanna puke for the greed and midas touch they all have. Only interested in tuning our country into gold so they can cash in.

Now the very guys who already cashed in big time get cooperate welfare?
they should be made to use their own money, you know the money they've already robbed us of.


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Posted: Today, 9:18 AM CST
Indyfella wrote:
He could be purple....that's irrelevant. Ya just gotta know how the Clinton's operate. Wait and see...she'll passively do everything she can to make him look bad. Remember, 12' is coming up in 4 years.


I think you're talking more about Billy Boy, the big cigar man. Hillary might just be her own woman by now and put a muzzle on her man (boy). After all it's her turn now in the spotlight, might make a difference and she may not really like the long shadow always cast by Bill.

Time will tell JMO.


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Posted: Yesterday, 9:34 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
No.....it was just turkeys.


It was pretty darn weird 'tho, she was being all perky in front of twitching dying turkeys. conversing


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Posted: Yesterday, 9:13 PM CST
ttom500 wrote:
Thought I would catch you all here on this thread. How goes things all?
All well I hope with all.

Yes.....shucks DEMs did not need to nominate Hillary for President.
All they had to do was have Obama employ all of Bill's old staff. I wonder how well this is sitting with the far left? Like a shoe with a load of sand in it, I bet.

Market likes his choices...up 500 points.

Have to admit Hillary as Secretary of State has a certain poetic justice to it. She can go to Denmark and demand extradition of Dude for a international hijacking of a political campaign.:-)

Just teasing Sky. Don't get ruffled feathers.

Seems like he like Bill Gates of Defense. A good choice there. I hope he stays.

Yes Nepolaino for Homeland is a surprise to me. Much of Homelend is done oversea now. Customs does it inspections of cargo container mostly inm foreign ports. Coast Guard operates off Haiti and other countries.


Hey Tom, no ruffled feathers here (so far) laugh His choice for Sec. of Treasury Timothy Geithner seems strong. I don't know too much about him yet but the early reports are positive.

Hopefully Clinton can leave her circus behind her.


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Posted: Yesterday, 9:10 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
I wonder if she can see Russia from her backyard?


Saw an interview she had in front of some turkeys being slaughtered, wonder if that is subliminal?

confused


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Posted: Yesterday, 9:05 PM CST
I'm so thankful for the birth of my new grandchild, Madelyn Rose, last Sunday.

She is amazing. teddy bear


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Posted: Yesterday, 7:38 PM CST
Not me, Indy doesn't expect anyone to agree and I'm not breaking that tradition now.

I think Obama has a lot to deal with but I'm so glad he's our president.


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Posted: Nov 16, 2008, 9:15 AM CST
The_Kansan wrote:
Hate is over rated. Without Mankind there wouldn't be any such thing as hate or jealousy or any of the other words that bother me simply because it's too bad we even have a reason for such words to exist...


Hate forgets boundaries, restraint, honesty and self control/responsibility.
It is frequently the author of destruction.

Mankind is a plurality, not just one sided. It comes up with positive things too like love, acceptance compassion and if we survive long enough maybe even wisdom.


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Posted: Nov 16, 2008, 9:05 AM CST
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Posted: Nov 16, 2008, 8:01 AM CST
Children appreciate clear boundaries and structure set by calm and loving parents/relatives/teachers.

It isn't oppression, it is instruction and gives the child a framework for success, not just in that moment but for life in general.

It also dramatically decreases escalating anger that usually ends up in confused and angry children being punished for not behaving. Hitting, naming the child bad, shaming and blaming the kids for lack of control do nothing for the child's self esteem or sense of accomplishment or safety.

It doesn't take too many times of ending outings in a calm manner with a "you can try again next time but now you've got to live with the choice you made now" attitude before there are very good results.

My grandchild is not only fun to be out in public with, she is strong, smart and loving. I'm very proud of her, she rocks my world.


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Posted: Nov 15, 2008, 10:12 PM CST
I just came back fro having dinner with my family. My 4 y/o grandchild is staying with me and was at dinner. The restraint was noisy and crowded and she didn't really like her meal.

Emily knows what is expected of her ie; how she is to behave in a restaurant . She is not allowed to act up or get out of control in any way. Good manners are regularly expected of her.

I never lay a finger on her or raise my voice. If she will not listen to quiet down the first time I just remind her that we can leave if she can't follow the rules. She also knows I mean it and we will leave any time any place where she can't behave right. We have always followed through on this.

She not only acted beautifully tonight (and usually), never ran around or got out of control. She hugged me and said "OK grandma". I told her I was proud of her.

A friend who was eating with us said he was amazed and that his niece who is the same age was always all over the place.

Emily is never hit, she does get time outs and very clear boundaries. She is basically treated with the same respect that is required of her.




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Posted: Nov 14, 2008, 7:33 AM CST
shipoker58 wrote:
you have NO gray areas LOL!! That's why I love you!!


Back at ya Ship. I totally believe that civil rights belong to all Americans, all people not just the heterosexual ones.

And I think that it's the ones who would deny those rights are the ones being anal. wave


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Posted: Nov 14, 2008, 7:08 AM CST
shipoker58 wrote:
well...sorry, this thread is for gay bashers and their opponents, only!!


Ya think I'm a gray area kind of a gal? conversing


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Posted: Nov 14, 2008, 6:57 AM CST
shipoker58 wrote:
It's O.K. to hate in the name of religion!! It helps people feel better about themselves!!


Well I'm not truly gay but I'm frequently quite happy and Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. laugh


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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 6:13 PM CST
On several other occasions, Bush contended he could nullify laws creating ''whistle-blower" job protections for federal employees that would stop any attempt to fire them as punishment for telling a member of Congress about possible government wrongdoing.

When Congress passed a massive energy package in August, for example, it strengthened whistle-blower protections for employees at the Department of Energy and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

The provision was included because lawmakers feared that Bush appointees were intimidating nuclear specialists so they would not testify about safety issues related to a planned nuclear-waste repository at Yucca Mountain in Nevada -- a facility the administration supported, but both Republicans and Democrats from Nevada opposed.

When Bush signed the energy bill, he issued a signing statement declaring that the executive branch could ignore the whistle-blower protections...

Bush has also challenged statutes in which Congress gave certain executive branch officials the power to act independently of the president. The Supreme Court has repeatedly endorsed the power of Congress to make such arrangements....

Nonetheless, Bush has said in his signing statements that the Constitution lets him control any executive official, no matter what a statute passed by Congress might say...

Golove said that to the extent Bush is interpreting the Constitution in defiance of the Supreme Court's precedents, he threatens to ''overturn the existing structures of constitutional law."

A president who ignores the court, backed by a Congress that is unwilling to challenge him, Golove said, can make the Constitution simply ''disappear."...


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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 6:13 PM CST

As far as posting articles I can't win either way in some circles. I post them because I don't just have opinions, I research issues.

And as far as Obama not being a "friend of the constitution" that is strange thing to say.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges
_hundreds_of_laws/

Bush challenges hundreds of laws
President cites powers of his office

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | April 30, 2006

WASHINGTON -- President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, ''whistle-blower" protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.

Legal scholars say the scope and aggression of Bush's assertions that he can bypass laws represent a concerted effort to expand his power at the expense of Congress, upsetting the balance between the branches of government. The Constitution is clear in assigning to Congress the power to write the laws and to the president a duty ''to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." ...

But with the disclosure of Bush's domestic spying program, in which he ignored a law requiring warrants to tap the phones of Americans, many legal specialists say Bush is hardly reluctant to bypass laws he believes he has the constitutional authority to override.

Far more than any predecessor, Bush has been aggressive about declaring his right to ignore vast swaths of laws -- many of which he says infringe on power he believes the Constitution assigns to him alone as the head of the executive branch or the commander in chief of the military....

...twice in recent months, Bush drew scrutiny after challenging new laws: a torture ban and a requirement that he give detailed reports to Congress about how he is using the Patriot Act...

Bush is the first president in modern history who has never vetoed a bill, giving Congress no chance to override his judgments. Instead, he has signed every bill that reached his desk, often inviting the legislation's sponsors to signing ceremonies at which he lavishes praise upon their work....

Bush quietly files ''signing statements" -- official documents in which a president lays out his legal interpretation of a bill for the federal bureaucracy to follow when implementing the new law. The statements are recorded in the federal register.

In his signing statements, Bush has repeatedly asserted that the Constitution gives him the right to ignore numerous sections of the bills -- sometimes including provisions that were the subject of negotiations with Congress in order to get lawmakers to pass the bill. He has appended such statements to more than one of every 10 bills he has signed....

Bush has also said he can bypass laws requiring him to tell Congress before diverting money from an authorized program in order to start a secret operation, such as the ''black sites" where suspected terrorists are secretly imprisoned.

Congress has also twice passed laws forbidding the military from using intelligence that was not ''lawfully collected," including any information on Americans that was gathered in violation of the Fourth Amendment's protections against unreasonable searches....



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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 4:04 PM CST
BTW both sections of the article I posted were from the same factcheck.org. I just split it up but somehow the link showed connecting singles, sorry.


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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 4:02 PM CST
jampet wrote:
okayyyyy- so so far i'm none the wiser!! will have to just wait and see!!

i suppose i believe it should be one person one vote- don't really get the idea that there can be 10:1 voting for one person , but due to the way votes are counted, the other person can win???- isn't that the situation with the 'college vote'??
sorry to appear so ignorant, but it is a totally different situation to what i'm used to, where the majority of the voters mean election, rather than the distribution of the votes?? ( totally ready and accepting if i get slammed for knowing nothing!!


Like Tom said you can use a search engine and ask you questions, find your own answers.

Like I said it depends on who you are talking to what answers you will get.

Good luck!!!


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Skybow
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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 4:01 PM CST
Indyfella wrote:
Kinda like Al Franken is doing in Minnesota. All votes counted since the election have went to Franken. The statistical likelihood of a candidate getting ALL the votes is a near impossibility.

I understand the confusion over the 2000 race, even though the NY Times went back independently and did a recount and confirmed Bush won. I don't even remotely see how 2004 is in dispute.

JMO.


This 2004 election is one of the reasons so much focus was on early voting and lawyers were watching the voting process so closely;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._Election_controversies_and
_irregularities

2004 United States presidential election, concerns were raised about various aspects of the voting process, including whether voting had been made accessible to all those entitled to vote (and no one else), and whether the votes cast had been correctly counted. More controversial was the charge that these issues might have affected the reported outcome of the presidential election, in which the incumbent, Republican President George W. Bush, defeated the Democratic challenger, Senator John Kerry...

Kerry himself conceded the presidential election to Bush on November 3. Some of his supporters criticized him for doing so, arguing that Bush's apparent win in Ohio was so narrow that it might be reversed if improprieties were corrected and the still-uncounted provisional ballots were largely in Kerry's favor. A subsequent partial recount in Ohio did not significantly reduce Bush's victory margin there. (Some of the alleged improprieties in the election could not be addressed by a recount.) There is an ongoing debate about possible changes for future elections.

Among the issues raised in 2004 were:

* Obstacles to voter registration.
* Improper purges of voter lists.
* Deliberate voter suppression.
* Practical impediments to voting, such as excessively long lines.
* Accuracy and reliability of voting machines, and potential for undetected interference in their operations ("hacking"), including those employing DRE voting machines, optical scan voting systems, and punch card voting systems.
* Other inaccuracies in the official count of votes cast on Election Day, whether through carelessness or deliberate tampering.
* Problems with absentee ballots and provisional ballots.



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Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 3:51 PM CST
http://www.connectingsingles.com/ForumAdd.aspx?tid=86004&sid=0

Obama: Burying ACORNs

The ad says that "Obama's ties to ACORN run long and deep" – that he "taught classes" for the group, paid a "front" $800,000 for get-out-the-vote efforts, and was endorsed by ACORN for president. That last one's true – ACORN's political action committee did offer an Obama endorsement. It's also true that Obama has worked with the group in the past. In 1995, Obama helped represent ACORN in a successful lawsuit to require the state of Illinois to offer "motor voter" registration at DMV offices. Obama has said that this is his only association with ACORN, but that's not the case – he has had other, though less direct, interactions with the organization.

When Obama was on the board of directors of the Woods Fund, the foundation gave grants of $75,000 in 2001 and $70,000 in 2002 to ACORN's Chicago office. The McCain campaign and the Republican National Committee cite an additional grant of $45,000 in 2000. The Woods Fund has not responded to our calls about their 2000 grants.

The Obama campaign also paid Citizens Services Inc., a group affiliated with ACORN, more than $800,000 for get-out-the-vote (not voter registration) efforts during the primary election. The nature of CSI's services was initially misrepresented on the Obama campaign's disclosures to the Federal Election Commission, which the campaign describes as an oversight. The Obama campaign says it has not been involved with ACORN during the general election.

In addition, after law school, Obama may have had contact with ACORN when he directed a Chicago registration drive for Project Vote in 1992. According to Sanford Newman, who was the program’s national director at the time, ACORN may have been one of dozens of organizations that participated in registration drives that year with Project Vote personnel like Obama. But Project Vote didn’t begin contracting exclusively with ACORN until after Obama worked for the group in 1992. “Working for Project Vote at the time was by no means working for ACORN," Newman told us. ACORN had no influence on Project Vote policy and no representation on its board.

As for "teaching classes" for the group, the McCain campaign cites a March 2008 Newsday article, which says that ACORN organizer Madeleine Talbot "initially considered Obama a competitor" when both were working to get asbestos insulation removed from a Chicago housing project, but that "she became so impressed with his work that she invited him to help train her staff." Newsday does not say whether Obama accepted the invitation. An article by Chicago alderman Toni Foulkes says that "we [ACORN] have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year" between 1992 and 2004, when the article was written. The Obama campaign says that Obama participated in two, one-hour trainings in a volunteer capacity. Foulkes could not be reached for comment.

Neither ACORN's Chicago office nor CSI has been accused of voter registration irregularities.

Update, Oct. 21: We originally said that Project Vote works closely with ACORN, implying that Obama would have had contact with the group when he directed a voter registration drive for Project Vote in 1992. We have since learned that Project Vote and ACORN may or may not have worked together in Chicago that year. The group didn’t contract with ACORN exclusively back then. We have corrected the story to reflect this.


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