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Maybe the Republican and Democratic party will be dead in 50 years? You never know. Serious and unprecedented crisis bring unprecedented changes...on any level...business, education, government, or sports.


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How do you know? All we know is that the Dems and Repubs have led us to the reality of today. Change brother....outside of the box thinking. Enough with the same coach, offense, defense, and special teams. Does Tom Laundry come to mind?


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It could happen in the next 8-12 years so long as the Dems and Repubs keep prolonging problems on all levels instead of fixing them and evolving new solutions. Seriously, the time for change has come. Certainly Obama, McCain or the dem-repub dominated Congress won't promote innovative changes. A third party with a wide coalition would be awesome. Green Party? Whigs?


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I do plan to move back to Cali or even Vegas eventually. But I do feel kinda safe here in Sweden. Things are not as bad as America.

And I have already voted as an overseas American citizen....


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I was thinking more along the lines of a coalition type government. To really represent the people. The two party political system is not exactly fair in terms of representation. There are so many Americans that do not identify with the Dems or Repubs...believe it Indy. The 70's and 80's are over bro!

I think America should have at least 5 different political parties. No less.




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Obama will not be some psycho radically leftist president that will throw our country into Communism.

And there is only speculation that can't be proven in court.

"In Ohio yesterday, a judge ruled against a GOP lawsuit that asked that people not be able to register to vote and vote and the same day."

Here, a link for you Republicans to gobble up. It's an article from your America, not the America that the voters will vote on. And the article has nothing but air.....

http://politicsandprosperity.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/08/barack_obama_and_the_saul_alinsky_

"As a community organizer, Obama had close ties to the Chicago ACORN chapter and trained a number of their leaders and activists. Recently Obama's campaign paid $800,000 to ACORN for "field work". In Obama's original 1996 state senate campaign (launched with an event at Bill Ayers house) ACORN members were used as volunteer shock troops."





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Regulation is coming Indy, and it won't just concern America, I can foresee a global regulation with financial institutions coming in hopes of fixing the global market. I would even venture to say that some currencies my fuse together in the future.

The world is no longer the same anymore. Time to roll with the changes.

Now I'm not saying Obama is the solution, but it would be a small step to actually think in terms of innovative and radical change for the future.

I really do think the two political party system s a detriment to America.

The system has failed us. Now it's time to think outside of the box and do something new as opposed to the same old recycled bullshit.




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But it does not prove that Obama pressured workers. I mean a case that can stand up in court, not to the potential voters. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae should never have had the liberty to run carelessly like that.

This thing should not revolve around Obama, but the system. Time to focus on solutions, not problems or conspiracies....and management protocol varies from company to company, institution to institution.

Are you for regulation now ttom?



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[quote=Indyfella]

Well, they don't make peanuts. They are well paid, but not good enough for some....that is all.


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Some good points and observations by everybody in this thread. I agree and can only add that now is the time to focus on solutions and not problems.

And change does not happen overnight. So stop thinking in fast food terms...


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They sure fuckin are. I'm so tired of their panic.


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[quote=Indyfella]

Well, today a lot of doctors and dentists do leave Sweden in pursuit of more money in other EU countries or America.


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It's just exotic speculation presenting a distorted view and sophisticated spin to make a fallacy come true in your mind....

There are no facts to the allegations that you want to come true so bad. When the facts come about Obama's exact involvement, then I'll raise the white flag.

Keep diggin Republicans...The American voters have evloved, and just don't buy everything at face value.

It's not going to reduce Obama's increased lead in the polls.

The economy is fucked, and so is McCain. There is not attention getter or smear campaign/character assassination that is going to change this.


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[quote=Indyfella]

No, the state does not run everything. free markets, privatization, do exist ad Swedes have a lot of integrity...especially the bureaucrats.

Indy, I'm taking a wild guess that maybe you think Sweden's Socialist government is like China's or the USSR's?


If you don't know how Socialism works in Sweden, search is always your friend....


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Sweden? They do have one of the least corrupt democracies in the world. Search on google is your friend if you think I am full of it.

Okay, Dennis Miller is on The O'Reilly Factor...should be a good and funny listen....


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Ralph Nader just asked he O'Reilly what his favorite cat is? What should I make out of that? Ralph Nader appears to not líke O'Reilly very much..lol


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Just a fair voting process without rumors of corruption. But yes, maybe new voting machines that does not have blatant glitches. And certainly not voting machines made by very rich and powerful Republicans or Democrats.




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Maybe they were nervous? Duh!

I'm watching the O'Reilly Factor...he has not been kind to McCain

And during the debate, why did McCain never mention the names you guys keep mentioning. lol...take a wild guess


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You said that Obama was one that taught the basics of registering voters AND pressuring banks to loan to low income/low income home buyers.

There is no way that will be proven. It's just the same old taking things out of context tactic. Maybe Obama wanted to give more chances to responsible low income home buyers. Nothing establishes that he "pressured banks". It's a desperate move at the end of the game for the Republicans. I would not be surprised to see a video of Bin Laden magically pop up like a week before the vote


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The name was changed ttom. Same company, different name...same potential problems. The Diebold AccuVote voting machine has also come under scrutiny especially by Ralph Nader's campaign allegedly.

"Rubin is credited for bringing to light vulnerabilities in Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems) Accuvote electronic voting machines. In 2006 he published a book on his experiences since this event."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avi_Rubin



"Three voting machines hacking tests have been performed by Finnish Computer expert Harri Hursti for the nonprofit elections watchdog group Black Box Voting[1] and the producers of the HBO documentary 'Hacking Democracy' [2] who filmed it. The first two Hursti Hacks were set up in Leon County, Florida with the authorization of Supervisor of Elections Ion Sancho and these tests examined a Diebold Election Systems (DES) Accu-Vote OS 1.94w (optical scan) voting machine. The third Hursti test was conducted for Black Box Voting in collaboration with Bruce Funk, then-County Clerk of Emery County, Utah, on a Diebold TSx touch-screen."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hursti_Hack


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