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[quote=bodleing]Bit like you've just done in quoting my post eh?

Mr bodleing & all of the members of the forum I Sincerely withdraw the hash word rubbish and any word you felt to be direct to you, I am so sorry.


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I don’t know whether this statement comes out because of lack of knowing anything in the book call bible or out of heart full of hutred to Islam and Muslims.

I formally believe that one of the best tricks the church leaders play to their follower, is been able to select few verses in the bible and tell the whole Christians to only read that.

So the Christians don’t really know what is their book said, you could be one of Victims of ignorance but don’t worry I am here to help you learn your faith. I saw many times some people here tells about the evil verses in the bible so I won’t have to do more work because most of the job is done.

Just few days ago in the other forum I recommend for people like you to read a book call “ALL IN THE MIND” and in the book I ask people to get a full chapter call “the Christianity killing field” so I will beg you please to get it. Second here is some verses from your bible and I will beg you again to double cheek if they are genuine and then explain to us what they really means.

Luke 19:27 but to those enemy of mine who did not want me to be king over them bring them here and kill them on front of me. Mathew 10:34 don’t suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth, I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter her mother, a daughter in law against her mother in law and a man’s enemy will be the member of his household. Mark 16:15 go into the world and preach the good news to all creation, whoever believes and is baptize will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.Mr bible believer if you read the book I told you up there you will see how your brothers obey the instructions of your God Jesus, your current Cristianist USA president told you so many times that he is doing the work of God, guess what? Your God told him to destroy the life and economy of the world.so better you wash your face before start talking rubbish about other people.


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You have NOT been appointed to be my Spokesman![/quote]





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nor, i did NOT said that. and i am sure that if you have eyes and brain you could read and uderstand what i said before this comment you tried to Misunderstand.


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I guess sir i shall tell you some more because you seem trying to use the crowd and say everybody is doing it!!! However, if you read the book i told you up there i think you will be in a good position to talk. But also i think if you come to know that Christians fought what you call world war 1 and world war 2 and in the same time everyone of you keep a big WMD probably you are getting ready for the world war 3, while in the same time if you look at the countries which had ugly wars in Africa and Asia 95% of them are bible believer, the picture will get uglier if you come to learn that all of those killings was inspired, manipulated and profits by bible believers then what you are going to say about the faith?


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nor does not matter anyone to kill anyone for any reason. to me anyone who kill never minde he is what? he is evile and anemy of god.


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With your blindness we can learn a lot. First of all there is nor Islamic issue there. the Jews are the ones who are killing and stealing for religious purpose because they believe that their so-call father promise them to steal the Palestinian land.

But to answer to the one who ask the question I will say YES, Islam for freedom. And I will like to take the challenge and say Islam is the only religion of peace on the planet earth. however, anyone who would like to argue with me better he must read so much fist, one of the books I will advice people to read in this topic is “all in the mind” by sir Ludovic Kennedy, in this book try to read on a chapter call “ the Christianity killing field”.

Please don’t be carryout by those liars who invent lies day and nights and spend billions on campaign against Islam and Mohamed. To those desperate fools, I would like to tell them only two things. A- they told the world that Islam spread to the world in the early age by the sword, so my question is this; right now they are telling us that Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth, so where do Muslims use sword in our time with all of the unpleasant campaigns you are making by the big guns and the media psychologically warfare?

The last thing I would like to say to them is this; Thomas Carlyle said in in his book call Heroes and Hero Worship in 1840, Our current hypothesis about Mahomet, that he was a scheming Impostor, a Falsehood incarnate, that his religion is a mere mass of quackery and fatuity, begins really to be now untenable to any one. The lies, which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man, are disgraceful to ourselves only” so if he is alive now what he could tell you?




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There are many ways to reach your goals, there are those people who reach their goals by physically hard working and there are those who work hard mentally to reach their goals. Have you ever manipulate someone to reach your goal? Did you ever been manipulated by someone like your lover or closer family? When did you realise that you were innocently manipulated? How you felt after you realised it?



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I know that we all are affected by the so-call crunch, and things are getting worse every second. However there are people who are really affected by loosing their jobs, hard cash, homes etc. are you one of them? Do you know anyone of them? Please tell us some story about this, what happen with your life? Last but not list who do you blame?



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Starbucks, the giant US coffee chain, has used its muscle to block an attempt by Ethiopia's farmers to copyright their most famous coffee bean types, denying them potential earnings of up to £47m a year, said Oxfam.

The development agency said the Ethiopian government last year filed copyright applications to trademark its most famous coffee names - Sidamo, Harar and Yirgacheffe. Securing the rights to these names would enable the impoverished African country to control their use in the market and allow farmers to receive a greater share of the retail price.

The move would have increased its annual export earnings from coffee by 25%.

But Oxfam said Starbucks, which enjoyed a 22% rise in annual global turnover to $7.8bn in the year to October, has acted to block Ethiopia's application to the US patent and trademark office. The USPTO has denied Ethiopia's applications for Sidamo and Harar, creating serious obstacles for its project.

Oxfam had a one-year cooperation agreement in 2004 with Starbucks which saw both provide support to coffee farmers in Ethiopia as part of wider attempts to reduce poverty in the country. But Oxfam now feels that the Seattle-based company's attitude is questionab

Oxfam said: "Starbucks has made some progress towards helping poor farmers in recent years, but their behaviour on this occasion is a huge backwards step, and raises serious questions about the depth of their commitment to the welfare of their suppliers. By acting responsibly, they could set an example for others by supporting Ethiopia's plan to help the 15 million struggling Ethiopian farmers who depend on coffee for their survival."

Starbucks, whose annual turnover is equivalent to about three quarters of Ethiopia's entire gross domestic product, said in a statement it had never "filed an opposition to the Ethiopian government's trademark application".

However, Ron Layton, head of Light Years IP, a Washington-based intellectual property rights organisation that is advising the Ethiopian government, said that in 2004 Starbucks had filed a trademark application with the word "Sidamo" to the USPTO. The USPTO then judged that Ethiopia's application a year later had to be rejected because the word was already the subject of Starbucks' application.

"Intellectual property ownership now makes up a huge proportion of the total value of world trade but rich countries and businesses capture most of this. Ethiopia, the birthplace of coffee, and one of the poorest countries in the world, is trying to assert its rights and capture more value from its product. It should be helped, not hindered," said Mr Layton.

Starbucks insisted, however, that it was committed to paying premium prices to producers in more than 27 countries and its purchases of Ethiopian coffee had grown by more than 400% in the past four years. It said it paid an average of $1.23 (65p) per pound last year, 23% above average market prices.

Tadesse Meskela, head of the Oromia coffee farmers cooperative union in Ethiopia, was unimpressed, however. "Coffee shops can sell Sidamo and Harar coffees for up to £14 a pound because of the beans' specialty status. But Ethiopian coffee farmers only earn between 30p and 59p for their crop, barely enough to cover the cost of production.

"We sell organic coffee for less than £1 a pound but that pound can make 52 specials in coffee shops selling for £2 each, meaning the retailer is selling it for £104. The people who are producing this in Ethiopia don't have enough food, clean water or health centres.

"Farmers are losing out while others in the chain are making huge amounts of money. That is hugely unfair."

Ethiopia is continuing to pursue its trademark applications in the US. It is also asking Starbucks and other companies to sign voluntary licensing agreements that immediately acknowledge the country's ownership of the coffee names, regardless of whether they have been issued with a trademark.



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Cherokee said: I am not from Ireland,U need to read the post better

Zambe reply: i am sure this woman need really help to understand more, however you have to know that i always have sympathy on the women never mind how aggressive they are. Up there i never said you are from Ireland; come on don’t run, i tried to travel with you around the world and show you your leader’s reckless way of naming, so you the one who shall read the post better.

Cherokee said:
How much money have u send to Zambia,Sudan or Somilian to help the starving people there.I have sent a lot

Zambe reply: a true statement from a bible believer!!! But i hop you didn’t play fast and loss, i am not from Zambia. concern to the aid or Aids you boast yourself to send out, i use to call it “HELL-p” what you shall understand is that if you look at each and every country you are sending Aids you get billions from those country’s raw materials, and anyone who try to say no, he is automatically qualify to be name terrorist NO 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc.

do you know why Mr Nelson Mandela was named? Because in his country there was Gold and diamonds and you need it!!! Do you know why your oil gazzelers are busy manipulating things in Sudan? Because there is oil in the land, you already know how you got in Iraq don’t you? If you leave these countries alone they will never ask you aid, they could even help you.

The good example (maybe) you can understand please read the second part of this comment. I were suppose post only the link but because of the rules of this site I cant post a like here.

Because of these kinds of Christianist greedy Africans have to be beggars. While if you give them a fair share of their sweat they could never, never, never need HEL-p from you. but how can you let them have that while you are still bible believers? No, you can’t; its part of the faith to be greedy, liar, killer, trickier etc.

If that poor and Christian country call Ethiopia gets at least 50% of their products they could have roads, schools and hospitals. (Please find out 50% of what they produce and the amount of HELL-p you give them a year)

Cherokee said: i never said Nelson Mandela was a terrorist

Zambe reply: can I ask you to go and read again please? Look at what I said; I think I wrote YOUR bible thumpers.

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Conrad you remember what I told you last time and I don’t want repeat it here, so respect yourself or else I will tell you what you won’t like to hear in public. I never said I am a swiss; did i? However you yourself spent over 23 years of your stupid life in a foreign country but yet every time you run to the word my country, my country, my country. Do you know that over 10 % of the population of your country held a foreign citizenship and that ten percent is including you? Life is just like that time moves and people moves so you are old enough to think.


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Sorry of my stupidity but do we have to forgive you for the lack of knowing anything around the world? Would you please take some time and learn about noble people like Nelson Mandela and his comrades whom never been a Muslims but yet your bible thumpers still list them as terrorist? On your next comment would you please take some time and tell the world about a group of bible believers call ETA? Is not a time for you to tell us here the name and faith of those who were fighting in Ireland? If you don’t agree to answer my questions then I will agree that you are true bible believer who can live on the sweat of the others and can only pointed fingers to the others while you are the most evil dower of the world.


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"Enemy of the starte", "the island" and "the devil's advocate".


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LOL Ms smocky all of your comment is good but this part (I would like to see prostitutes with Invoice Books) makes my day.


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Since we knows that both of the seller and buyer are not doing it because of pleasure but a technically economics strategy, then those who can do something should do so for the sake of the freedom of the 2 victims, and the welfare & dignity of the entire community and human race.




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is not this is the mean of admire??????????


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Ms smocky I don’t know what name you will be happy for me to call you, but whatever I will put here, you have to know that respect to your age is my first worry. I showed you what happened and still happening or correct me if I am wrong!!!! don’t just run and say I hate white people, why shall i?

I am not tired of white people please don’t get me wrong. i was talking about bigot, some people who don’t care about anyone but themselves, people who are ready to abuse anyone for their own gains.

people who told themselves that what is theirs is theirs and what belong to others, they can talk, and that is not only whites but also u can found africans who are in that chapter.

Concern to what seem like you tried to raid over the past because we or I never did anything in life, I am very proud to tell you that if I am with guys of my age I always come out and tell them who I am.

I never met any guy who went trough such hard life like I did, and in the same time I never saw a guy like me who archived what I did in life, never. i never fought with anyone physically, i never stole, i never sold drugs, i never use it, i never even touch it, i never sold myself, i travel to soo many countries with my own money. i work day and night so i can be financially free from any one.

I suffered in most of my life and the was nobody for me but thanks to god I am very proud of who I am.

I achieved soo much, soo much in soo many ways, very few who are like me and can compare themselves to me. this is not to show you that I am arrogant but to show you that I never stand over anybody’s shoulder. and I believe that there are still more waiting for me in life. but i would like to ask you why i would like not build these things? why? do you think i am not? i never been allowed by my ex slave master? i would like to do those things but my ways has been blocked by thousands of barriers


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Ms smocky: Black journalist made himself very unpopular because he declared in the press that it is time for the Black people to stop asking for hand-outs from the the Whites of the world.

Zambe: I think I am the first on that view. Why shall I wait somebody to feed me, my wife and kids? However, there is a big difference between the one who site and do nothing but waiting somebody to put food on his table and the one who is working 24/7 and get pay $1 a day which is the really issue in S Africa.

While I was in South Africa I had a friend of min who happen to be immigration officer, and one day he told me story that after more than four years I never forgot the way his face was looking when he was telling me this.

He told me that he arrested 3 guys from a neighboring African country, and while he was writing down their details & belongs he fined one of them with R350.00. (Less than 30 Euros) that was the only money the guy had. And after the officer finishes handcuff the illegal immigrants and lord them into the car, he went to the farmer or their boss and try to find out what they were doing there and why he keep illegal immigrants in the farm.

And the farmer told the immigration officer that here we dig charcoal. and in the farmer’s words, he said “those guys are lazy, I have to force them to work hard every time otherwise they won’t do anything, but if I force them a day we can make two trucks of charcoal, if I don’t put pressure on them they only make one truck a day.

And the officer joked with the farmer and said "then they are useless, they don’t make any money for you" The farmer reply, yes. they don’t, because I sale one truck for R40 000.

The immigration officer told me that according to the passport of the guy who had the R350 he lived in the country for 8 months, and the immigrant said he just came direct to the work from home.

So the point here is this, if they had a good day the boss pocket R80 000 and if is bad day he only get R40 000 but the poor immigrant after 8 months of working he only have R350 so please try to working it out how much he was getting pay pare a day. 1 euro = R12.7800.

I do believe that one of the Champions of the idea of HELL 2 Aid is president Mbeki, he said so many times that let’s expect no body but ourselves. And even a common sense shall tell you that the one who throws you in such dip sea he is not the one who is going to rescue you beside if he is going to ask you to pay for the service.

When somebody wakes up in the morning, he or she always think about where he can get his next meal, and trust me this is the whole idea of the independence. But the master whom without slaves he won’t be call this superior name any more, use to try all of his mean to maintain the argument that “you can’t look after yourself without me so better be me even your backward language and culture you need to give it up and use my.

Let me end here by saying this; anyone who understand the whole mean, divide to conquer, and know the strategy was used to control the whole groups in S Africa and see what is going on in Iraq right now, he is not going to be fool if he say "the punishments which is been use ageist the rebel Zimbabwe or the BAD BOY Mugabe as the African lady put it, the punishment there is lesson to nor other than S Africa".

Ms smocky: Here in Switzerland, and you must admit it is an extremely well run country...

Zambe: I already talk about this country, and better I let you know that with my very limited English vocabularies I have no word that I can describe this country and how much I admire here. However, please read this well. Switzerland had been free to decide for herself for how long? Are your blood suckers are going to allow Africa to have some really freedom? Are your media are going to stop the lies and manipulations on the daily reports from Africa?


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Ms Smoky : Okaylet us Indaba, go forth, and seek the future! Rehashing the past is like reading the same old book over and over till our eyes glaze over, and we fall asleep.

Zambe: if you picture the very interested issue in that way, myself I look at it with the understanding that “if you don’ know where you came from you won’t know where you are going.

Ms smoky: there will be those who may say that I did not suffer as they did, because there was no LAW preventing me

Zambe: The reality is the reality, never mind suet us, we like it or not. South Africa in the last 500 years was created, build and Segregated by so many diseases, from poverty to illiteracy to the well calculated Cullen system which no other appropriate medication was used than the creation of highly Intelligence lesser missiles call HIV- AIDS.

Everybody who will sit-down and try to break his head to understand the impact of this undoubtedly man made commercial Business, can realise that HIV- AIDS was introduced into the country for soo many goals. To name a few, is to devastate the population which cover the labour force, To strengthen the segregation without ignoring the stigmatisation of target group and last to cripple the economy which will make every door possible for the super nation.

I saw you tried to argue about the growing of the population and one of the things that shocked you is your knowing that the machinegun is on the ground and doing business, that is why you were soo surprised to be told that the population is growing UP.

This remind me a article I read during 1997/8 a white person said “we don’t have to worry much because in few years time HIV will take care and we are going to come back, so we just have to wait outside and see” I guess you were looking to be told that the population now is 8 to 12 million.

Ms Smocky: The Asian and Coloured folk of SA were classed equal to the Blacks, prohibited by law from owning , relegated to live in their

Zambe: first of all I would like to show my appreciation and thanks for your bold acceptance that there was a system called prohibition which today is not there for, but you are free to go there and do whatever you want the time and way you feel. so thanks to the Africans who are teaching you that the word is Democracy but not hypocrisy.

However, when you tried to prove that the imbalance economic system is a “kaffer" problem, I doubt what is your really mean.

I always argue that what differentiate us today in the world mostly is not our colours, not our faiths, and for sure not the geographic position of where we were born but the size of our pockets and inheritant mindset both good or bad.

I have been in S Africa for some times and it’s much easier for me to do profitable transactions with whites, Asians or the unique South African nation call coloured, not because of many reasons but because they look at me difference just because I am a foreigner.

This is a phenomena which you can get it anyway you go around the world, if me and you meet in China we are going to be friends and we will agree on many, many points even though when the sun goes down we both run into a difference churches.

In reality the Asians in South Africa was not the same like the Africans because the whites knew that this people just came here to get food probably like us, and they don’t care about the dirty life call politics. So in this common point Asians were not on the pressure which was forced to the daily African life.

Very rich country like S Africa, whites were only 13% of the population and the natural resources of the country was more than enough for them, Asians which up to now still under 3% where busy selling here and there, and the 84% of the population (Africans) were the customers, why the Asians could not be rich?


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