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"ideals" have been around since the beginning of time. I don't think anything about them. Given the time, money, most could look like them. Take their time and money away and most would look general.

There is a given though, and it is an evil one, but I will share it with you. Those "beauties" shall get older, and the more shallow they are, the harder it will be on them. Case in point, Brooke Shields crying about her wrinkles

I would look like myself on any given day, age as gracefully as naturally possible, and embrace what I have-on the inside as well as outside. If a man wants a modelesque woman, far be it from me to care, or fret. To each his own.

As far as younger people, it is up to their parents to teach them at an early age that what they look like and who they are are exactly who they should be. Teach them self esteem. ~~jmo

ah yes the good ol 'womens' mags......do more harm than good when they photoshop.....no wonder women go around thinking 'they're not slim enough/pretty enough' blah blah blah...........

i'm so glad kim kardashian came out and said what she said.....

everyone could be beautiful like them, however we dont have the money and access to great photographers (well i did once!), stylists and make-up artists......

my little 'study' was so intriguing into mens minds.....

the ones that got attracted to my 'kinky' pic, were just like well, definitely not ones you would want to date........


thanks waiting for posting this forum

I think sometimes maybe most times when these "celebrities" go beserk on photographers is because they actually have been caught without their "Celebrity Face" on...
another reason those "BUG EYE" sunglasses will never go out of style.

hello. i dont care about the touchups because i wasnt raised to idolize celebrities. i like to look at magazines for clothes and makeup ideas. i dont compare myself to them. that is so silly.

I believe the messages they are sending to young girls (some, not all) are part of the reason for teenage suicide. Some of them being teased by fellow classmates may also lead them to such a decision--That is to say, they may compare them to what a celebrity looks like.
I never was for the touch-up perspective as it is fake, and they are selling it while some people are gullible enough to buy it.

Gimme real or no deal.

It was in my advertising class we looked at the photo touch-ups, and in my photo-shop where we learned how to do it.
I disagree with it. I have seen absolutley great looking people just outside walking in the parks.
It doesn't make sense that we continue to follow a media ideal.
Funny thing, the media ideal is a creation of not only advertisers trying to sell creams and cures to aging, but our own populace.
It a circle.
We are told what beauty is by the media, then we expect to see that same beauty in our media, so the media tells us.
Although, (very slowly) we as a people are breaking free of those old ideals.
I'd rather see more real people then supposed enhanced model.
I will never look like them, and I'm glad for it.
I don't want to feel less of a person because I cannot have flawless skin and fit into a 0.

Who cares,most celebrities are on plastic anyways.

This is what I got when I went to the Ellen site...no pics..



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Hello T.... just about to check out for the eveneing.

hey J have a good one

I wonder where I could buy one of those little circles.

YOU too T.

Before Photoshop came to be, there was the airbrush. Find out when the airbrush was invented and the years since, they have been used on photos of 'beautiful people'; mostly models and actresses. It became so blatantly fake that Playboy Magazine once published a totally made-up , totally fake model for their front cover. Now with Photoshop one can take a ninety old woman and make her into the proverbial 'hot young chick' of about twenty. Is it any wonder then that law courts have not been willing to accept 'photographic proof' in cases unless certified by forensic lab experts of the caliber that would be experts in the FBI labs...we live in a world where nearly all including people are fake. Isn't it great not to have any flaws like humans ...we all can be just like dolls

I think that's what they did with Anna Nicole Smith for those Trim Spa commercials. Tee-Hee!