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I am curious as to how many children you have adopted. If you decide that you should have control over whether or not a woman has a child then I think it would be RillyNice of you to adopt some unwanted children in this world.

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The TRUTH,sadly often hurts - but it remains the TRUTH. It seems you have difficulty along with the US courts in understanding that premise.It is never for a court to determine well established medical scientific fact - their function is to determine and enforce Law.

IF a woman the US can have an abortion up to and including Partial Delivery - perhaps then, since you claim to have the same understanding as the US courts, tell me - when exactly does humman life BEGIN? - Note: I said Human Life - not birth. IF a woman has the right to terminate her Pregnancy, WHAT exactly is she Pregnant with, if it's NOT human life?

I believe it is within soo many hours after but I am not real sure

The truth only hurts when it isn't clear or delivered in a mean and spiteful way. in this case, the "truth" of when life begins is still being debated by doctors and everyone else. here's an example:

http://www.familydoctormag.com/sexual-health/251-when-does-life-begin-medical-experts-debate-abortion-issue.html

Some define a fetus as a human being when it becomes able to live outside the womb, others see things differently. Who's right? I sure as heck don't know for sure but I can believe what I wish. The only known fact is that the U.S. Supreme court has deemed that abortions are legal and they did this based on a number of criteria. You can read about it here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=What+testimony+was+received+by+the+Supreme+court+in+Roe+vs+Wade&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

The point being that regardless of our personal beliefs on when life does/does not begin, there is nothing definitive inside the medical community. You may choose a side and so can I but that makes neither of us right. This is why I choose to let people make up their own minds. In most cases people are smart enough to make decisions for themselves.

I'm an ordained non-denominational minister. I was ordained in May 2008 after listening to God's call. I help people who have been through this situation and who better to help them than one who has experienced it themselves?

Just one more post on this topic so that I can say my piece, then I'll make my way home again.

This judging thing is taken way out of context by many people all over the world. The ancient writings tell us to confront a friend if he/she is doing wrong. If they do not listen, then do it again with a witness. After that, get the church leaders involved. Now how can that occur if you don't judge the actions of others? With that being said, we have NO right to judge a person's soul. That will be done by the Almighty God. If one reads and studies the Holy Scriptures, you will find that we are responsible to judge the ACTIONS of others, but NEVER their final resting place or their souls.

It seesm to me that you are the only one who found my first post, which was not judgemental of any individual or insulting towards any person, to be offensive. Grow up!!

It really is laughable, I have never seen so much nonsense in my life. To try and separate a Fetus from humanity is insanity in the extreme. The 'logic' you are trying to portray is that both the male sperm and the female egg are not part of the human species, and therefore, when the sperm and egg combine it produces 'something other than human' until it is born!! And this you call medical facts!!! give me a break!!!

Well said.

He didnt say that.


Whats your alternative? FORCE a woman to continue a pregnancy?


We all use + need sex in our lives, many unplanned pregnancies occur. Many women who have the procedure do so under great duress, and the consequences live with them throughout their life. The decision is not done on a whim.


In a perfect world we wouldnt need abortion, but we dont live in one do we?

you have mail ding dong....

Mr avon-man.

What we were referring to b4, i didnt think it was that person. Its a shame when others jump to conclusions.

exactly

That's just another example that proves you are incapable of meaningful dialogue on this subject.

This is what I wrote and what you are attempting to twist to meet your own means:

Some define a fetus as a human being when it becomes able to live outside the womb, others see things differently. Who's right? I sure as heck don't know for sure but I can believe what I wish. The only known fact is that the U.S. Supreme court has deemed that abortions are legal and they did this based on a number of criteria."

The point being that regardless of our personal beliefs on when life does/does not begin, there is nothing definitive inside the medical community. You may choose a side and so can I but that makes neither of us right. This is why I choose to let people make up their own minds. In most cases people are smart enough to make decisions for themselves.

Tell me, exactly where in that text did I say it was medical fact? I said it was debatable and is being debated in the medical community. You act as though this is my idea. It's not, it's simply an open debate among medical professionals. If you have a problem with that or are unable to understand that everything in life doesn't fit neatly into the little box you've designed for yourself, that would be your own problem.

Sparky, u dont have to justify and explain what u wrote previously. Many people can see what u wrote, and not twist your words round

I am not married. A child needs a mother also. For the past nine years I have been working very hard for long hours for someone elses benefit. As of about next month I will start building my life again. One think I will do is to donate. When I get married, I wish to start a family and would have no problem adopting into the family. My wishes have always been to have a family, to take care of them, and to make as much money as I can to help other people. All the big boy toys and bling are foolish crap to me. there is no life and love in things.....only people! Your attempt to shame me with question is no problem. My biggest problem is to find a women that is worth having....you see I am a nice guy. But there are few women who are able to love another with true love.....they don't even know what it means. How can a woman that does not know true love ever be able to love a child or children other than her own.....she would want to take life easy and let them get by without hope for the sake of convience....much like those who use abortion.

Read the profiles of other women. Heartless and self centered mostly.
There are some with the right stuff, after the scammers, they tend to be Asian. They still know love and family.....and others.

I just read your profile.......How many "I"s can one person use in their profile, I don't know, but you have a hugh crop going.

Thanks Magenta...

I just read a Chinese woman's profile in Ohio. She wants a good man with a warm heart, so she can have a warm family to love.


Its a lot different than women who want a man who knows how to fix things and has his own tool box.....and abs and pecks and four wheeler.

Rilly i do not agree with your stereotypical judgement of western women. I feel society has alot to do with the degenaration of good family values.

If u wish for an asian wife, thats ok. my best wishes to you.

Personally, I am against abortion (except for when the mothers health is in jeopardy, rape, or incest). HOWEVER, I also feel that I am a guy and what my opinion is doesn't matter. I will never have the opportunity to walk in the shoes of a woman that is pregnant, thus, my opinion doesn't matter, so in a sense, I am both pro-life & pro-choice.

~JMO~