Abortion




Trealach Cork, Cork Ireland
allready: I Think this is her choice and hers along, she has to live with it not anyone else.


Suicide is also a personal choice - but I doubt you can find anyone who would say it was the right choice.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Trealach: Suicide is also a personal choice - but I doubt you can find anyone who would say it was the right choice.
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rizlared ., Shanghai China
Trealach: Suicide is also a personal choice - but I doubt you can find anyone who would say it was the right choice.


Now who's taking the easy way out, if they're dead you can hardly ask them
G4m3rCh1ck Lakewood, Washington USA
Trealach: Suicide is also a personal choice - but I doubt you can find anyone who would say it was the right choice.


It very well could have been the right choice for some. they just can't convey it.
rizlared ., Shanghai China
Abortion is a very personal decision that should be made, when possible, by the two parents involved.

To have a hard and fast rule either for or against it is foolish beyond belief, life is never perfect and while there are grey areas we should take that into consideration.

The same should be said with regards to life termination through euthanasia, every case should be looked at individually as no two are the same.

Those who have to make these decisions are not trying to be GOD, in fact I am sure they would love God to make the decision for them, but are making the decision based on their own particular set of circumstances.

It is not for you and me to tell them what they should or should not do.
IMO
G4m3rCh1ck Lakewood, Washington USA
rizlared: Abortion is a very personal decision that should be made, when possible, by the two parents involved.

To have a hard and fast rule either for or against it is foolish beyond belief, life is never perfect and while there are grey areas we should take that into consideration.

The same should be said with regards to life termination through euthanasia, every case should be looked at individually as no two are the same.

Those who have to make these decisions are not trying to be GOD, in fact I am sure they would love God to make the decision for them, but are making the decision based on their own particular set of circumstances.

It is not for you and me to tell them what they should or should not do.
IMO
Very well said. thumbs up



steven6611 victor Harbor, South Australia Australia
Yes this is so well said & thought provokingthumbs up
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: Life is never stable. The child just didn't fit now......kill it!
If you become a drunkard and a dope head....will you for the sake of not having a good life and for the benefit of others will you blow your brains out. I doubt it! Stop lying to yourself. Many young women take responsiblity for their actions and raise the child....with good lives for them and their child.

I hope your future husband does not become a bother and sick...you would unplug his machine for the sake of him not having a good life and for the benefit of others......Bullcrap! and you know it.

You are young and foolish.....and live for self only. I hope someone does not find you a bother and worthless like you did that child.....shame! No reasons...only excuses to soften the blame.


Talk about kicking when down, you are not God so how come you can decide what is right or wrong for this girl. How can you make presumptions based on nothing???????

When you can show that you have never made a mistake then maybe you can judge others, this post smacks of someone who is a self righteous do gooder, someone far worse than the religious zealots we see on this forum.

Show some compassion man, do you really think that making such a decision was without breaking her heart? YOU have no idea of her background or circumstances.

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD, Tolerance is not hard to find in one as worldly as yourself



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
typomatic: Talk about kicking when down, you are not God so how come you can decide what is right or wrong for this girl. How can you make presumptions based on nothing???????

When you can show that you have never made a mistake then maybe you can judge others, this post smacks of someone who is a self righteous do gooder, someone far worse than the religious zealots we see on this forum.

Show some compassion man, do you really think that making such a decision was without breaking her heart? YOU have no idea of her background or circumstances.

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD, Tolerance is not hard to find in one as worldly as yourself


Rilly is a good man

and his opinion is that..

as so others has said themselves...

I am against it as well..

Why would he show compassion to what he is against???

Let him say what he wants to say...

They post and people will jump in and say what they want..

If you dont like what people have to say then dont post
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: Talk about kicking when down, you are not God so how come you can decide what is right or wrong for this girl. How can you make presumptions based on nothing???????

When you can show that you have never made a mistake then maybe you can judge others, this post smacks of someone who is a self righteous do gooder, someone far worse than the religious zealots we see on this forum.

Show some compassion man, do you really think that making such a decision was without breaking her heart? YOU have no idea of her background or circumstances.

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD, Tolerance is not hard to find in one as worldly as yourself


You don't have to stick your head into a meat grinder to know it is not a good thing to do.doh I have deep compassion....for the murdered baby who had no say as to creation or destrution of itself. I wish to thank you of your judgement of me....do what you preach....don't judge me.
There are many many people in terrible situations.....ask them if they want to live. Ask Steven Hawkins family if he wanted to live (look him....just a genius in our lifetime)
Hitler gave good reason why retarded people needed to be killed...and they where. He gave many good reasons why others should be killed because of an unpure race....and they were. He gave good reasons to kill the Jews........and they were. Why do you follow the footsteps of such an evil man with good reasons to kill babies......and they are being killed.

"Thou Shalt not murder" for the sake of good reasons and self interest. Where is your heart, if you have one for others.....have it for the innocent child and a foolish girl who does not know right from wrong....and for yourself who does not know it either.

Keep your pants on until your are man or woman enough to take responsiblity for your actions.



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
RillyNiceGuy: You don't have to stick your head into a meat grinder to know it is not a good thing to do. I have deep compassion....for the murdered baby who had no say as to creation or destrution of itself. I wish to thank you of your judgement of me....do what you preach....don't judge me.
There are many many people in terrible situations.....ask them if they want to live. Ask Steven Hawkins family if he wanted to live (look him....just a genius in our lifetime)
Hitler gave good reason why retarded people needed to be killed...and they where. He gave many good reasons why others should be killed because of an unpure race....and they were. He gave good reasons to kill the Jews........and they were. Why do you follow the footsteps of such an evil man with good reasons to kill babies......and they are being killed.

"Thou Shalt not murder" for the sake of good reasons and self interest. Where is your heart, if you have one for others.....have it for the innocent child and a foolish girl who does not know right from wrong....and for yourself who does not know it either.

Keep your pants on until your are man or woman enough to take responsiblity for your actions.
thumbs up Well said my friend..
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
kissmedeeply: Well said my friend..
bouquet


It is all excuses to do what they wish without responsiblity.

There are RARE cases that abortion is required for the sake of saving a life FROM DEATH.......BUT NOT BECAUSE IT WILL MESS UP THEIR LIFE......

after all summer break is coming up!.......kill it!!!!!!!
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: You don't have to stick your head into a meat grinder to know it is not a good thing to do. I have deep compassion....for the murdered baby who had no say as to creation or destrution of itself. I wish to thank you of your judgement of me....do what you preach....don't judge me.
There are many many people in terrible situations.....ask them if they want to live. Ask Steven Hawkins family if he wanted to live (look him....just a genius in our lifetime)
Hitler gave good reason why retarded people needed to be killed...and they where. He gave many good reasons why others should be killed because of an unpure race....and they were. He gave good reasons to kill the Jews........and they were. Why do you follow the footsteps of such an evil man with good reasons to kill babies......and they are being killed.

"Thou Shalt not murder" for the sake of good reasons and self interest. Where is your heart, if you have one for others.....have it for the innocent child and a foolish girl who does not know right from wrong....and for yourself who does not know it either.

Keep your pants on until your are man or woman enough to take responsiblity for your actions.


You have missed entirely my point, I have no bones to pick with you over your view of abortion, my post was directed at your picking on an 18 year old girl who has had to make a hard decision, that she is the one who will live with her action for the rest of her life, your comments were designed to cause hurt, to stir up her already delicate emotions and to lay even more guilt onto her young shoulders. It was a beneath the belt reaction and was not necessary in this thread.
That you hate abortion in any form is your right, what is not your right is to hurt and humiliate someone just because you think your right

Hitler was not born a killer, society moulded him
Steven Hawkins was not born a cripple, he became diseased when a young man.


No you did not show any commpassion, you showed that you are without commpassion, had you just voiced your view on Abortion and not at one particular CS member ten I would not have been drawn to respond on your post



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Always a controversial topic. This one.

I am not an abortion advocate at all, I do not go around waving flags and ploking my ass outside Family Planning clinics, but I do believe that there should be a choice.

I do believe that medical evidence and law has proven this choice to be available and with that I would support any person within my life who made that choice.

For the lady, who so bravely has written that she had her daughter as a result of a rape, then I take my hat off to you and give you full credit. I do believe that a child can be raised as this lady has done and it can be handled delicately and with strength as this lady has chosen. Again, she is one amazing lady who has been able to do that. Would I choose an abortion against those odds? I cannot say.

I will say, however, that there are times, such as a severley handicapped child, where the mother is offered a termination as a result of this, I would consider that option, I say, consider. I owuld consider an option where I was raped by a family member and there could be problems with crossed bloodlines.

If we are talking about Hitler and other people who have committed genocide on massive scales, I can see where you are coming from, we are all not afraid to comment on the horrors of this world and children being slain because of ethnic reasons, yet anti abortion views consider abortion just as bad. I can see that, it is like saying it is okay for a mistake but then we show horror of acts like of genocide...

Do I think you are wrong in your views RNG? No, harsh in your view for those that have undertaken it, yes, but I do and certainly try to understand your point. People are going to have sex and I agree, responsible sex should be had, with the full responsibility of contraception being taken, which is the problem, there are too many women becoming pregnant without enough contraception being taken into consideration, which is only 99% proven that all contraceptions work.

I have been sterilised, because I did not want anymore children, therefore, I am at a higher risk of an ectopic pregancy, there are many women who can conceive, yet not carry a child and their bodies abort the foetus naturally.

Where a foetus is aborted naturally, do you feel the same compassion for that child that has been unable to live as you do one that is aborted medically?

Is my question.



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Trealach: Suicide is also a personal choice - but I doubt you can find anyone who would say it was the right choice.
Well, your doubts have become unfounded Sir, because for some it is the right choice.



bestat45 saint john, New Brunswick Canada
Sommerauer71: Always a controversial topic. This one.

I am not an abortion advocate at all, I do not go around waving flags and ploking my ass outside Family Planning clinics, but I do believe that there should be a choice.

I do believe that medical evidence and law has proven this choice to be available and with that I would support any person within my life who made that choice.

For the lady, who so bravely has written that she had her daughter as a result of a rape, then I take my hat off to you and give you full credit. I do believe that a child can be raised as this lady has done and it can be handled delicately and with strength as this lady has chosen. Again, she is one amazing lady who has been able to do that. Would I choose an abortion against those odds? I cannot say.

I will say, however, that there are times, such as a severley handicapped child, where the mother is offered a termination as a result of this, I would consider that option, I say, consider. I owuld consider an option where I was raped by a family member and there could be problems with crossed bloodlines.

If we are talking about Hitler and other people who have committed genocide on massive scales, I can see where you are coming from, we are all not afraid to comment on the horrors of this world and children being slain because of ethnic reasons, yet anti abortion views consider abortion just as bad. I can see that, it is like saying it is okay for a mistake but then we show horror of acts like of genocide...

Do I think you are wrong in your views RNG? No, harsh in your view for those that have undertaken it, yes, but I do and certainly try to understand your point. People are going to have sex and I agree, responsible sex should be had, with the full responsibility of contraception being taken, which is the problem, there are too many women becoming pregnant without enough contraception being taken into consideration, which is only 99% proven that all contraceptions work.

I have been sterilised, because I did not want anymore children, therefore, I am at a higher risk of an ectopic pregancy, there are many women who can conceive, yet not carry a child and their bodies abort the foetus naturally.

Where a foetus is aborted naturally, do you feel the same compassion for that child that has been unable to live as you do one that is aborted medically?

Is my question.
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typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
kissmedeeply: Rilly is a good man

I GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT

and his opinion is that..

I GAVE HIM CREDIT FOR HIS OPINION

as so others has said themselves...

I am against it as well..

Why would he show compassion to what he is against???

BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT TO SHOW COMPASSION, I AM AGAINST ALCOHOL BUT WOULD STILL HELP A DRUNK FROM HURTING THEMSELF

Let him say what he wants to say...

HE CAN SAY WHAT HE WANTS, BUT IF IT’S DONE TO CAUSE HURT AND DISTRESS THEN HE MUST ALSO TAKE THE CONSENQUENCES

They post and people will jump in and say what they want..

THAT IS WHAT A FORUM IS FOR

If you dont like what people have to say then dont post

IF I DON'T LIKE WHAT PEOPLE SAY, THEN I WILL POST AND TELL THEM, IF THEY DON'T LIKE MY RESPONSE DON'T POST IN THE FIRST PLACE



You didn't like my post yet posted back, think about it



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
typomatic: You didn't like my post yet posted back, think about it
I didnt say i didnt like ur post..

I said when people post here expect a good or bad answer..

It would be a boring world if we all agreed
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: It is all excuses to do what they wish without responsiblity.

There are RARE cases that abortion is required for the sake of saving a life FROM DEATH.......BUT NOT BECAUSE IT WILL MESS UP THEIR LIFE......

after all summer break is coming up!.......kill it!!!!!!!


So now you agree, there are grey areas, however small they may be, therefore it cannot be right to have a fixed policy.

It was only your opinion that the girl who posted here was using abortion as a way to clear up a mess in her life.

Maybe you should have offered to adopt her unborn, but then that may clutter your perfect lifestyle and anyway someone else can adopt. You are standing in a greenhouse my friend, maybe it is not too wise to throw stones at someone outside.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: You have missed entirely my point, I have no bones to pick with you over your view of abortion, my post was directed at your picking on an 18 year old girl who has had to make a hard decision, that she is the one who will live with her action for the rest of her life, your comments were designed to cause hurt, to stir up her already delicate emotions and to lay even more guilt onto her young shoulders. It was a beneath the belt reaction and was not necessary in this thread.
That you hate abortion in any form is your right, what is not your right is to hurt and humiliate someone just because you think your right

Hitler was not born a killer, society moulded him
Steven Hawkins was not born a cripple, he became diseased when a young man.No you did not show any commpassion, you showed that you are without commpassion, had you just voiced your view on Abortion and not at one particular CS member ten I would not have been drawn to respond on your post



I have restrained and you don't realize it. She is a young person brainwashed into wrong thinking. I reply to what is written more kindly than you will know. She is not a bad person just misguided.
Hitler was molded but the killing was his, to unite a people. If you hate a group people will unite and stay off your butt at the same time.....scape goats. Classic misdirection.
If Hawkins genes in the womb had shown his disease forthcoming and he was aborted.....what a shame!

Poor little murderer! is that what you want. When a drunk runs over your child.....have compassion for the poor drunk and to hell with the child. Foolishness. She has those to support her...but who will tell her the truth.....she made a bad choice for bad reasons....plain and simple. But she is young and is playing adult games with poor role models. I am worried and have compassion for the next child of hers.....and when her husband gets boring will she leave him, breaking up the family and giving the kids a bad life. Sure she will! for the same reasons....self....or will she kill them like many are doing now! Watch the news!.....for the sake of a boyfriend...kill the kids.....for the sake of not being able to take care of them....kill the kids....it is better for them....BULL!

I had no need to voice my opinion about abortion...it is well known. but I will reply to foolishness in the hopes people will learn what is right and wrong according to right and not my opinions. Food for thought is all. They will do as they please, but I hope it will be a better choice.




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