Abortion




Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: I have restrained and you don't realize it. She is a young person brainwashed into wrong thinking. I reply to what is written more kindly than you will know. She is not a bad person just misguided.
Hitler was molded but the killing was his, to unite a people. If you hate a group people will unite and stay off your butt at the same time.....scape goats. Classic misdirection.
If Hawkins genes in the womb had shown his disease forthcoming and he was aborted.....what a shame!

Poor little murderer! is that what you want. When a drunk runs over your child.....have compassion for the poor drunk and to hell with the child. Foolishness. She has those to support her...but who will tell her the truth.....she made a bad choice for bad reasons....plain and simple. But she is young and is playing adult games with poor role models. I am worried and have compassion for the next child of hers.....and when her husband gets boring will she leave him, breaking up the family and giving the kids a bad life. Sure she will! for the same reasons....self....or will she kill them like many are doing now! Watch the news!.....for the sake of a boyfriend...kill the kids.....for the sake of not being able to take care of them....kill the kids....it is better for them....BULL!

I had no need to voice my opinion about abortion...it is well known. but I will reply to foolishness in the hopes people will learn what is right and wrong according to right and not my opinions. Food for thought is all. They will do as they please, but I hope it will be a better choice.
Come on Rilly, you cannot predict how her life will pan out.

You cannot say all of this about her life and expect other's to believe it even if you do.

I think you are being harsh and unfair there on a young 18 year old woman who is finding her way in life...
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: So now you agree, there are grey areas, however small they may be, therefore it cannot be right to have a fixed policy.

It was only your opinion that the girl who posted here was using abortion as a way to clear up a mess in her life.

Maybe you should have offered to adopt her unborn, but then that may clutter your perfect lifestyle and anyway someone else can adopt. You are standing in a greenhouse my friend, maybe it is not too wise to throw stones at someone outside.


Now! I have always known and said that there are rare cases. You don't know me either....don't judge as you say and not do.

She stated her reasons. You are so wise as to know my conditon and what I would do? I think the baby was dead when it was posted here. I have just spent nine years doing for someone and I am now rebuilding my life. I gave up my life and worked long long hard hours to keep someone from losing all she had. I stood in the freezing rain talking to a man in his truck for about 20 minutes while with the flu, both ears were deaf about 90%, I had to shout to be heard at a whisper...spitting blood. 3/4 of my face would not move due to bad reaction to medicine. I never went to bed for sickness and I worked my store all day and I emptied buckets every ten minute all night for several nights while having the flu. Her husband died without insurance of cancer.....it was her bill...not mine! I paid it all and she lost nothing, you ingnorant snot!

Even with what I have on me. I would take a child rather than it be killed. You self rightous snot. I gave up grandchildren because of time, I gave up most likely children of my own. I may not even find a woman to marry like I want with true love in her heart because of the rarity of such. These I have given for the sake of others. So now make further stupid remarks you stupid snot!
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: Come on Rilly, you cannot predict how her life will pan out.

You cannot say all of this about her life and expect other's to believe it even if you do.

I think you are being harsh and unfair there on a young 18 year old woman who is finding her way in life...


It was not a prediction of her life to be.

Somethings call for harshness to get through the garbage to the mind. I have been very mild compared to what needs to be said, because she is young and misguided. But maybe enough was said to make her rethink her motivations in life. She will be the better for it and that is also what this is about....making her life better by new ways of thinking.....and that is compassion for her. People need to know in life that fun,money,career and success is not all in all. How can you have success in life if you seek only for self. You can never do it.....success is the balance of all things.....not stuff.

The cigarette companies kill for success and the good life. Only without caring can you be like them. If you can not care about a child......?



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: It was not a prediction of her life to be.

Somethings call for harshness to get through the garbage to the mind. I have been very mild compared to what needs to be said, because she is young and misguided. But maybe enough was said to make her rethink her motivations in life. She will be the better for it and that is also what this is about....making her life better by new ways of thinking.....and that is compassion for her. People need to know in life that fun,money,career and success is not all in all. How can you have success in life if you seek only for self. You can never do it.....success is the balance of all things.....not stuff.

The cigarette companies kill for success and the good life. Only without caring can you be like them. If you can not care about a child......?
It was a prediction, you stated that you feel for her next child, that she may leave her husband when he gets boring. And all manner of things, if nothing else she would be scared when reading that.

Nothing needs to be said to her, apart from your views Rilly, not a rant about how bad she is, what a fool she is and what an uncaring person she is. That is too much even for me to read. You have your opinion, your view on her choice to have an abortion and fine, tell her you don't agree with it, but don't procrastinate about what a bad person she is because she took a decision that you do not agree with. She is also not your responsibility to dictate to.

Educate, advise, yes we can all do that, to any person, but we cannot tell a person that her choice was wrong and send them on a spiral to feeling even worse than they already do about that choice.

She did not murder her child, she made a difficult choice. A tough one, for one so young and younger have done it too.
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: I have restrained and you don't realize it. She is a young person brainwashed into wrong thinking. I reply to what is written more kindly than you will know. She is not a bad person just misguided.
Hitler was molded but the killing was his, to unite a people. If you hate a group people will unite and stay off your butt at the same time.....scape goats. Classic misdirection.
If Hawkins genes in the womb had shown his disease forthcoming and he was aborted.....what a shame!

Poor little murderer! is that what you want. When a drunk runs over your child.....have compassion for the poor drunk and to hell with the child. Foolishness. She has those to support her...but who will tell her the truth.....she made a bad choice for bad reasons....plain and simple. But she is young and is playing adult games with poor role models. I am worried and have compassion for the next child of hers.....and when her husband gets boring will she leave him, breaking up the family and giving the kids a bad life. Sure she will! for the same reasons....self....or will she kill them like many are doing now! Watch the news!.....for the sake of a boyfriend...kill the kids.....for the sake of not being able to take care of them....kill the kids....it is better for them....BULL!

I had no need to voice my opinion about abortion...it is well known. but I will reply to foolishness in the hopes people will learn what is right and wrong according to right and not my opinions. Food for thought is all. They will do as they please, but I hope it will be a better choice.


Again you are not seeing the wood for the trees, what you see as right and wrong, however clearly defined in your mind are not necessarily the same views as others, I in no way am castigating you for your opinion on the OP, my remarks are that your words of hurt against a young women were not needed.
That a drunk would kill a child unforgivable, believe me I know, but that does not change MY VIEW that I would help such a person.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
We complain about war and the killing of people. While we allow the killing of people who can't even fight back. Poor murderers, they couldn't control there genitals.....maybe we should give them money for life and support them in their screwing. The killed baby.....who cares!!!!!! it was only going to have a life with the rights of others.....but who cares about others......I going to have a fourwheeler!yay



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: We complain about war and the killing of people. While we allow the killing of people who can't even fight back. Poor murderers, they couldn't control there genitals.....maybe we should give them money for life and support them in their screwing. The killed baby.....who cares!!!!!! it was only going to have a life with the rights of others.....but who cares about others......I going to have a fourwheeler!


What are your feelings on contraception, Rilly?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: It was a prediction, you stated that you feel for her next child, that she may leave her husband when he gets boring. And all manner of things, if nothing else she would be scared when reading that.

Nothing needs to be said to her, apart from your views Rilly, not a rant about how bad she is, what a fool she is and what an uncaring person she is. That is too much even for me to read. You have your opinion, your view on her choice to have an abortion and fine, tell her you don't agree with it, but don't procrastinate about what a bad person she is because she took a decision that you do not agree with. She is also not your responsibility to dictate to.

Educate, advise, yes we can all do that, to any person, but we cannot tell a person that her choice was wrong and send them on a spiral to feeling even worse than they already do about that choice.

She did not murder her child, she made a difficult choice. A tough one, for one so young and younger have done it too.


Since this is so darn important......ok! it was a prediction. Now lets move on to something of value.
Doing something foolish is not calling someone a fool. but lets get this important thing settled. I sorry!crying Now lets move one to something of value.

ok! She is wonderful! Please don't do abortion, its not the right thing for me. it hurts my feeling and makes me cry!

Bullcrap!!!!!
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: Now! I have always known and said that there are rare cases. You don't know me either....don't judge as you say and not do.

She stated her reasons. You are so wise as to know my conditon and what I would do? I think the baby was dead when it was posted here. I have just spent nine years doing for someone and I am now rebuilding my life. I gave up my life and worked long long hard hours to keep someone from losing all she had. I stood in the freezing rain talking to a man in his truck for about 20 minutes while with the flu, both ears were deaf about 90%, I had to shout to be heard at a whisper...spitting blood. 3/4 of my face would not move due to bad reaction to medicine. I never went to bed for sickness and I worked my store all day and I emptied buckets every ten minute all night for several nights while having the flu. Her husband died without insurance of cancer.....it was her bill...not mine! I paid it all and she lost nothing, you ingnorant snot!

Even with what I have on me. I would take a child rather than it be killed. You self rightous snot. I gave up grandchildren because of time, I gave up most likely children of my own. I may not even find a woman to marry like I want with true love in her heart because of the rarity of such. These I have given for the sake of others. So now make further stupid remarks you stupid snot!


Okay so I am a snot for wanting to support someone who cannot help themselves, Tough thats the way I am.

So I am a snot because I have the audacity to question your motives, Tough its the way I am

So I am a snot because I prejudged you in exactly the same way that you prejudged her. Tough thats the way I am

So you cared and paid for someone to the loss of your family, you want praise for that, I don't think so, but maybe you should ask your grandchildren how they felt about it, was it worth it? only you can answer that, but, your family are just that, family, and maybe their view is that had the person you cared for not lived then they would have benefitted from the wisdom of their grandfather, instead of losing him.

I am not belittling you, you can rant at me as much as you want, you deserve to have a punch bag, but it still does not warrant an attack on a young girl who did what she thought was right and must live with the pain for the rest of her life.

Respect
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: Again you are not seeing the wood for the trees, what you see as right and wrong, however clearly defined in your mind are not necessarily the same views as others, I in no way am castigating you for your opinion on the OP, my remarks are that your words of hurt against a young women were not needed.
That a drunk would kill a child unforgivable, believe me I know, but that does not change MY VIEW that I would help such a person.


The point was to hell with the child?.....can you not have compassion for the child.

Why do people go off about fourwheels being good or bad when the subject is killing a child. People!

This is why you must be harsh to get through the fourwheelers to the brain to make it think by emotion stimulus. But even that can't get through!.doh



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: Since this is so darn important......ok! it was a prediction. Now lets move on to something of value.
Doing something foolish is not calling someone a fool. but lets get this important thing settled. I sorry! Now lets move one to something of value.

ok! She is wonderful! Please don't do abortion, its not the right thing for me. it hurts my feeling and makes me cry!

Bullcrap!!!!!
That is a poor argument and you have not answered yet, any of my questions.

You are not reasonably having a discussion, you are ranting about a young girl.
Sommerauer71: What are your feelings on contraception, Rilly?



Thanks!
I was just thinking the same thing...



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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
The point was to hell with the child?.....can you not have compassion for the child.

I do, the child, that is 18 and has posted here about a choice she made.



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Olsojente: Thanks!
I was just thinking the same thing...
I am hoping he will answer.

Hello you.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: Okay so I am a snot for wanting to support someone who cannot help themselves, Tough thats the way I am.

So I am a snot because I have the audacity to question your motives, Tough its the way I am

So I am a snot because I prejudged you in exactly the same way that you prejudged her. Tough thats the way I am

So you cared and paid for someone to the loss of your family, you want praise for that, I don't think so, but maybe you should ask your grandchildren how they felt about it, was it worth it? only you can answer that, but, your family are just that, family, and maybe their view is that had the person you cared for not lived then they would have benefitted from the wisdom of their grandfather, instead of losing him.

I am not belittling you, you can rant at me as much as you want, you deserve to have a punch bag, but it still does not warrant an attack on a young girl who did what she thought was right and must live with the pain for the rest of her life.

Respect


You got it! You judged the same. Don't correct me until you correct yourself. calling you a snot worked!

Your remark about me wanting praise was predicted. No! Just you don't know how my little perfect greenhouse truly is.

I have no children and never been married! So remove your confusion.

As far as the little girl who no doupt told her mother not to run her life. If she had such pain for the rest of her life (about herself) but for the poor lost child......she would have never killed it.

I hope she will think in a different way and make choices on better values. I care about her but must get through the same garbage she thinks is right. if she is hurt....it is for herself....not the baby. That is wrong! I hope she finds better.


My calling you a snot was only to get you to think....getting through the automatic to the brain. It was a tool. But you still are judging me....and learned nothing. You must learn that you do all thing you judge anther of....its human but a poor accusation for effect considering the source.
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: The point was to hell with the child?.....can you not have compassion for the child.

Why do people go off about fourwheels being good or bad when the subject is killing a child. People!

This is why you must be harsh to get through the fourwheelers to the brain to make it think by emotion stimulus. But even that can't get through!.


You are talking about a child, whether an embryo is a child in the true sense of the word is in itself a debatable argument. that is why the whole discussion of Abortion is so difficult.

If a child of 1 dies though no cause ie cot death who is to blame, no-one it is the will of GOD? Maybe, in which case maybe it is also the will of God to terminate a foetus before it becomes an air breathing child, who knows??

Of cause it is wrong to kill, by any standards life is precious and should be saved whenever possible, but when should we start to decide at what age it is not quite so bad to kill than another age. People die every day through sheer stupidity, but, society conveniently turns a blind eye to those deaths. Death is death and again we cannot make it ok for one type of killing and not for another.
Double standards seem to rule
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: That is a poor argument and you have not answered yet, any of my questions.

You are not reasonably having a discussion, you are ranting about a young girl.




Point! If you will stop talking about the girl....I will not respond to your statements about the girl!doh



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: Point! If you will stop talking about the girl....I will not respond to your statements about the girl!
So will you answer my question on your views on contraception?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Olsojente: Thanks!
I was just thinking the same thing...



If the sperm can make a baby or the egg can make a baby by it self....then one should not kill. But since niether can....its ok! If you wish to talk Bible on the subject....?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: So will you answer my question on your views on contraception?


I did before this post. Sorry I missed it the first time!




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