Abortion




Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: If the sperm can make a baby or the egg can make a baby by it self....then one should not kill. But since niether can....its ok! If you wish to talk Bible on the subject....?


So contraception is okay?

Is not contraception a measure against conception, medically?

Or should we not have contraception and bring about many more people to the earth along with the six billion already in it?

Or should we not have sex at all? And let the human race die out?

Is the catholic church not against contraception?



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: I did before this post. Sorry I missed it the first time!
Yes, I saw and have responded.

I am not sure on your answer, you say it is 'okay'
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: You got it! You judged the same. Don't correct me until you correct yourself. calling you a snot worked!

Your remark about me wanting praise was predicted. No! Just you don't know how my little perfect greenhouse truly is.

I have no children and never been married! So remove your confusion.

As far as the little girl who no doupt told her mother not to run her life. If she had such pain for the rest of her life (about herself) but for the poor lost child......she would have never killed it.

I hope she will think in a different way and make choices on better values. I care about her but must get through the same garbage she thinks is right. if she is hurt....it is for herself....not the baby. That is wrong! I hope she finds better.My calling you a snot was only to get you to think....getting through the automatic to the brain. It was a tool. But you still are judging me....and learned nothing. You must learn that you do all thing you judge anther of....its human but a poor accusation for effect considering the source.


No, I was allowing you a dignified way to accept that maybe your rant against a young girl was uncalled for, I was also allowing you to let go of your anger on me, as I have broad shoulders.

Its your choice to continue to castigate me when you refuse to open your eyes to the actual argument that is taking place.

I misunderstood about your grandchildren, having re-read your post I understand that you meant you never had the chance of having grandchildren, put it down to lost in translation, I'm sorry. However, where is the difference between never marrying and having a family or having an abortion, both mean that a child that could have been never was???
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
If an egg and sperm can make a baby if not killed....don't

God's will.....we are not under God's will.....we chose this path and any death of a baby is due to the way we live as we want.

Any death is because of our choices and needs to be corrected....but it is not in man to do so.

Every person is valued....none without it. But to kill to protect a life is not wrong. It was the poor choice of the attacker that caused his death.



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: If an egg and sperm can make a baby if not killed....don't

God's will.....we are not under God's will.....we chose this path and any death of a baby is due to the way we live as we want.

Any death is because of our choices and needs to be corrected....but it is not in man to do so.

Every person is valued....none without it. But to kill to protect a life is not wrong. It was the poor choice of the attacker that caused his death.


I think you might be hard pressed to find people agreeing with you on that one.

A natural death, is a choice?
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
Sommerauer71: Yes, I saw and have responded.

I am not sure on your answer, you say it is 'okay'


Correct me please if I am wrong, but does the contraceptive pill not abort the egg so as to ensure it is not there to be fertilised??

And that being so it cannot differentiate between a fertilised and non fertilised egg?



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
RillyNiceGuy: If an egg and sperm can make a baby if not killed....don't

God's will.....we are not under God's will.....we chose this path and any death of a baby is due to the way we live as we want.

Any death is because of our choices and needs to be corrected....but it is not in man to do so.

Every person is valued....none without it. But to kill to protect a life is not wrong. It was the poor choice of the attacker that caused his death.


Rilly pls never lose sight in what you believe here

I full hearted 100% agree with everything you say here...

I dont know why they are arguing with you in what you beleive
but not arguing with someone taking anothers life..

Really dont make any sense to me at all..

ME AND AGAIN WILL SAY MAKING A CHOICE FOR ANOTHER AND THEY CANT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IS MURDER..

EVERYONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO LIFE..NO MATTER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES...GIVEN A CHANCE LIFE WILL WORK ITSELF OUT..
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
A man not marrying does not kill a living being. How can one die that never lived.

I would have not talked about the girl if she was not defended and in need of reply.

This is the facts! People will kill babies...it is convient....its cheap as appose to cost raising a child.....it makes good money for so many.....and it has been rational-liesed until no guilt is felt. Wrong has been made into right among men.

If I did not say what I feel and believe then I am a killer by my silence. This world is heading for a wake up call.....these ways man does will kill us all.

My veiws are known once again!

I now will move on!
mexikanska Cancún, Quintana Roo Mexico
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RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: I think you might be hard pressed to find people agreeing with you on that one.

A natural death, is a choice?
It is style of life that leads to unhealthy bodies. Sorry for your confusion by my words.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Not the same! But believe as you wish....you truly know better deep down.

typomatic: Correct me please if I am wrong, but does the contraceptive pill not abort the egg so as to ensure it is not there to be fertilised??

And that being so it cannot differentiate between a fertilised and non fertilised egg?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
hug my respect! and TY!

kissmedeeply: Rilly pls never lose sight in what you believe here

I full hearted 100% agree with everything you say here...

I dont know why they are arguing with you in what you beleive
but not arguing with someone taking anothers life..

Really dont make any sense to me at all..

ME AND AGAIN WILL SAY MAKING A CHOICE FOR ANOTHER AND THEY CANT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IS MURDER..

EVERYONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO LIFE..NO MATTER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES...GIVEN A CHANCE LIFE WILL WORK ITSELF OUT..
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Did you bring enough pop corn for everyone young lady!professor



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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
typomatic: Correct me please if I am wrong, but does the contraceptive pill not abort the egg so as to ensure it is not there to be fertilised??

And that being so it cannot differentiate between a fertilised and non fertilised egg?
The contraceptive pill was developed to inhibit fertility, developed in the US, although I could be wrong on that. It prevents ovulation.

A woman, if we look at it from a menstruation point, aborts an unfertilised egg each month, when she has blood loss. A woman taking the pill, does not have what is called a 'natural bleed' each month, it is a manufactured one as a result of imbibing the contraceptive pill.

Which is why I asked RNG about his views on contraception. His issue is the fact that it is a foetus that has a heartbeat, therefore it is a human being. If I were to suffer an ectopic pregnancy, that foetus would also have a heartbeat, but it would be in the fallopian tubes, risking my life. Am I supposed to lose my own life now, for that of a child that has a low risk of surviving the full duration of a pregnancy? Do we lose one life or do we lose two?

What do you think Rilly? Should I risk my life, for that of a human that has little chance of surviving anyway? Or do I care for the children that I already have? Or is it better that I leave three children motherless should the one in my fallopian tubes survive?



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
kissmedeeply: Rilly pls never lose sight in what you believe here

I full hearted 100% agree with everything you say here...

I dont know why they are arguing with you in what you beleive
but not arguing with someone taking anothers life..

Really dont make any sense to me at all..

ME AND AGAIN WILL SAY MAKING A CHOICE FOR ANOTHER AND THEY CANT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IS MURDER..

EVERYONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO LIFE..NO MATTER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES...GIVEN A CHANCE LIFE WILL WORK ITSELF OUT..
Hi KMD, Rilly is not expected to give up what he believes in.

As is no person and I am not arguing at all. There are many facets to this argument.

Hope you're well, lovely.
morgan5 somewhere sunny , Canarias Spain
RillyNiceGuy: It is style of life that leads to unhealthy bodies. Sorry for your confusion by my words.
wave I respect your opinion, i really do but sometimes women loose babies for reasons other than lifestyle .



kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
RillyNiceGuy: my respect! and TY!


Its seems to me the ones that are arquing know someone
or had done this deed themself..

They made their choice and have to live with what
they have done right/wrong..

but to argue with what we believe in..is wrong..

I am not judging anyone for what they have done..
i dont have to live with that

But for me ABORTION IS KILLING..no matter what excuse
they all come up with..
rizlared ., Shanghai China
kissmedeeply: Rilly pls never lose sight in what you believe here

I full hearted 100% agree with everything you say here...

I dont know why they are arguing with you in what you beleive
but not arguing with someone taking anothers life..

Really dont make any sense to me at all..

ME AND AGAIN WILL SAY MAKING A CHOICE FOR ANOTHER AND THEY CANT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IS MURDER..

EVERYONE SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO LIFE..NO MATTER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES...GIVEN A CHANCE LIFE WILL WORK ITSELF OUT..


Here in Italy, 8 weeks ago, a young girl of 15 years was taken from her home and put into a mental asylum, her madness was diagnosed as incurable, she was sterilised, it is what they do here, It is the law, unshakable. .

This girl was released a week ago after they discovered she was suffering from dehydration.

No one listened to her parents or family, so because it was the law she will now suffer for the rest of her life.

There are always uncertainties in life and it's is sometimes better to follow the saying "NEVER SAY NEVER"
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: The contraceptive pill was developed to inhibit fertility, developed in the US, although I could be wrong on that. It prevents ovulation.

A woman, if we look at it from a menstruation point, aborts an unfertilised egg each month, when she has blood loss. A woman taking the pill, does not have what is called a 'natural bleed' each month, it is a manufactured one as a result of imbibing the contraceptive pill.

Which is why I asked RNG about his views on contraception. His issue is the fact that it is a foetus that has a heartbeat, therefore it is a human being. If I were to suffer an ectopic pregnancy, that foetus would also have a heartbeat, but it would be in the fallopian tubes, risking my life. Am I supposed to lose my own life now, for that of a child that has a low risk of surviving the full duration of a pregnancy? Do we lose one life or do we lose two?

What do you think Rilly? Should I risk my life, for that of a human that has little chance of surviving anyway? Or do I care for the children that I already have? Or is it better that I leave three children motherless should the one in my fallopian tubes survive?


The answer was already given, but for your ease I will reply again. To abort to save a life (not lifestyle)is not murder. it is a sad result of our mankind choices of life. If we all healthy...it would have never happened. but that is the choice made for us long ago and we must live it out.



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: It is style of life that leads to unhealthy bodies. Sorry for your confusion by my words.
Hey, don't worry, am a foreigner.

So my friend, who died of MS, led an unhealthy life?

A child of five who has leukemia has led an unhealthy life?

Another question, and I am finding this interesting, what do you think of a parent who purposefully has another child so she can use that child to save another one for bone marrow donations to the ill child? Does the second child not have a right to a life without being drained of their resources?




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