Abortion

kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Sommerauer71: Hi KMD, Rilly is not expected to give up what he believes in.

As is no person and I am not arguing at all. There are many facets to this argument.

Hope you're well, lovely.


I am fine and yourself..

but it seems to me they are all arguing in what he believes
and some are giving kudos to the ones that had the abortions..

Agree to disagree as i said...

If i was the one carry a child...one had to go..

It would definately be Me...

I will always give life to a child no matter the circumstances..

And yes my Husband does not agree fully to what i said here...

but he will support in what i decide



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: The answer was already given, but for your ease I will reply again. To abort to save a life (not lifestyle)is not murder. it is a sad result of our mankind choices of life. If we all healthy...it would have never happened. but that is the choice made for us long ago and we must live it out.
Right. Now I am with you.

So it is okay to abort to save a life, but not okay to abort so that a person can go buy a new house?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Man and his wisedom is foolishness. That is a terrible law! If you put the boys one place and the girls the other...run by same sex people. No babies! How is that so hard to figure out.

Its not what makes the money for the doctors.....poor doctors.mumbling


rizlared: Here in Italy, 8 weeks ago, a young girl of 15 years was taken from her home and put into a mental asylum, her madness was diagnosed as incurable, she was sterilised, it is what they do here, It is the law, unshakable. .

This girl was released a week ago after they discovered she was suffering from dehydration.

No one listened to her parents or family, so because it was the law she will now suffer for the rest of her life.

There are always uncertainties in life and it's is sometimes better to follow the saying "NEVER SAY NEVER"



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
kissmedeeply: I am fine and yourself..

but it seems to me they are all arguing in what he believes
and some are giving kudos to the ones that had the abortions..

Agree to disagree as i said...

If i was the one carry a child...one had to go..

It would definately be Me...

I will always give life to a child no matter the circumstances..

And yes my Husband does not agree fully to what i said here...

but he will support in what i decide
Yes, I am well thank you Jo.

And so Eric should, he is your husband.

I am not arguing with what he believes in, I am arguing different aspects to a fixed view, because nothing can be fixed in these matters. In my view. I agree to disagree with Rilly on a matter, I uphold his views, and he is in the discussion as much as he wants to be...

I don't believe in kudos anyway, and I don't support abortion without all other options being explored, however, I do believe the choice should remain.

bouquet
kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
Sommerauer71: Yes, I am well thank you Jo.

And so Eric should, he is your husband.

I am not arguing with what he believes in, I am arguing different aspects to a fixed view, because nothing can be fixed in these matters. In my view. I agree to disagree with Rilly on a matter, I uphold his views, and he is in the discussion as much as he wants to be...

I don't believe in kudos anyway, and I don't support abortion without all other options being explored, however, I do believe the choice should remain.


I really wasnt including you..

becos i have read in what you were saying..

We all have choices..good/bad..and have to live with them..

i am no saint believe you me..

but Eric thinks i am so shhhhhhhhhhgrin
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
morgan5: I respect your opinion, i really do but sometimes women loose babies for reasons other than lifestyle .


The choice to abort to keep a style of life is what I mean. All should be given a chance at life....unless a life will be lost from it. Then depending there are choices to be made.

hug Your heart is right...I know!



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
kissmedeeply: I am fine and yourself..

but it seems to me they are all arguing in what he believes
and some are giving kudos to the ones that had the abortions..

Agree to disagree as i said...

If i was the one carry a child...one had to go..

It would definately be Me...

I will always give life to a child no matter the circumstances..

And yes my Husband does not agree fully to what i said here...

but he will support in what i decide
I am fine thank you, KMD.

And so Eric should, he is your husband.

I don't give kudos to anyone, so I cannot do anything about those ones who do. I have no wish to.

I don't support abortion, but I do know that I cannot have a fixed view. I would consider it only when all other avenues have been explored, but I think the choice should remain.

I would not risk my other children being motherless for a child that had a slim chance of survival.

I am not disagreeing with his views, I am exploring options to this topic.

bouquet



CaptainBeirutIII London, Inner London, England UK
I never got that bit in war movies when a pilot is about to drop bombs, fire missiles or unleash the wrath of missiles, when in the last seconds the command centre shouts:
- ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!

What’s his unborn baby got to do with the fight!?
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: Right. Now I am with you.

So it is okay to abort to save a life, but not okay to abort so that a person can go buy a new house?


To abort to make life easier at the cost of the child is just plain wrong! and for a profit(doctors)

in all things there is a use and an abuse. Abuse is wrong!
morgan5 somewhere sunny , Canarias Spain
RillyNiceGuy: The choice to abort to keep a style of life is what I mean. All should be given a chance at life....unless a life will be lost from it. Then depending there are choices to be made.

Your heart is right...I know!
Sorry Rilly i misunderstood the original post doh hug
rizlared ., Shanghai China
kissmedeeply: Its seems to me the ones that are arquing know someone
or had done this deed themself..

They made their choice and have to live with what
they have done right/wrong..

but to argue with what we believe in..is wrong..

I am not judging anyone for what they have done..
i dont have to live with that

But for me ABORTION IS KILLING..no matter what excuse
they all come up with..


I have never had an abortion, but that does not preclude me from having an opinion about it, my first wife aborted 2 times before we had our first child, we still have no idea why, but for some reason her body rejected the foetus's, one at 3 months the second at 6, I have never forgotten the feeling of loss,or the pain in her face when she found I was to become a father again after I had remarried, but that still does not give me the right to dictate to someone else how they treat their body, we can advise, but its up to them to use that advise.
kissmedeeply Petitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada
rizlared: I have never had an abortion, but that does not preclude me from having an opinion about it, my first wife aborted 2 times before we had our first child, we still have no idea why, but for some reason her body rejected the foetus's, one at 3 months the second at 6, I have never forgotten the feeling of loss,or the pain in her face when she found I was to become a father again after I had remarried, but that still does not give me the right to dictate to someone else how they treat their body, we can advise, but its up to them to use that advise.


I understand every one has their opinion..

As i do...For me its wrong..I am sorry if
i am offending anyone..but this is what i
believe..

I would never/ever make this choice in topichandshake
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
I liked the movie when the Cap. said "If he fires one, I'll fire one" Then the guy next to him says, "fire one" and pushes the button.

Oppsies! rolling on the floor laughing




CaptainBeirutIII: I never got that bit in war movies when a pilot is about to drop bombs, fire missiles or unleash the wrath of missiles, when in the last seconds the command centre shouts:
- ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!

What’s his unborn baby got to do with the fight!?



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: To abort to make life easier at the cost of the child is just plain wrong! and for a profit(doctors)

in all things there is a use and an abuse. Abuse is wrong!


Abuse is wrong, I agree.

I am now to take that you say abortion is murder, when undertaken because a woman wants a life?

But that it is okay when it means saving another?

A yes or no will suffice here Rilly, before my fingers fall off? grin
typomatic Sienna, Tuscany Italy
RillyNiceGuy: To abort to make life easier at the cost of the child is just plain wrong! and for a profit(doctors)

in all things there is a use and an abuse. Abuse is wrong!


Now here we are both ringing the same bell, Abortion is not a contraceptive, nor is it something to make money from, we are agreed in thishandshake
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
Sommerauer71: Abuse is wrong, I agree.

I am now to take that you say abortion is murder, when undertaken because a woman wants a life?

But that it is okay when it means saving another?

A yes or no will suffice here Rilly, before my fingers fall off?


Abortion is murder!

If it come to one life or another....then a choice needs to be made as to the best option and is really self defense and not murder. If both lives have equal chance to live then a choice must be made that must be lived with and unfortunate. But still self defense of life! if the mother gives her life for the child...it is her choice and a true love. if the child is choosen to die, so she can live....the choice must be lived with but understandable and not wrong. One is not required to give a life for another. One is of a greater calling but niether are wrong in my opinion.
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
typomatic: Now here we are both ringing the same bell, Abortion is not a contraceptive, nor is it something to make money from, we are agreed in this



handshake
RillyNiceGuy Southeast, Arkansas USA
I must go now! Got work to do!


grin wave



Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
RillyNiceGuy: Abortion is murder!

If it come to one life or another....then a choice needs to be made as to the best option and is really self defense and not murder. If both lives have equal chance to live then a choice must be made that must be lived with and unfortunate. But still self defense of life! if the mother gives her life for the child...it is her choice and a true love. if the child is choosen to die, so she can live....the choice must be lived with but understandable and not wrong. One is not required to give a life for another. One is of a greater calling but niether are wrong in my opinion.
And I, on that note rest my case Rilly.

I don't agree that abortion is murder.

And I don't agree that if a mother gives her life, it is true love.

I will thank you for a great discussion though.
rizlared ., Shanghai China
Sommerauer71: And I, on that note rest my case Rilly.

I don't agree that abortion is murder.

And I don't agree that if a mother gives her life, it is true love.

I will thank you for a great discussion though.


My sentiments exactlybouquet




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