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Apart from Jamaica i read a an article 2 weeks ago about how a catholic faithful was ex-communacated by Rome for advising a 9yr old to do an abortion.The girl was said to have Twins.As per the church this was killing an innocent lives.

amen to that! raging shame that we all have to go through bad situations to find our perfect one *sigh*.


As for this abortion topic...

I genuinely believe it comes down to the situation. If abortion can be avoided in anyway, i believe thats the right way to go.

Infact i have a close friend, who at 17 made a big mistake and ended up pregnant. She was under alot of pressure at the time to terminate, because it was so readily available here in the UK.

But, she carried on with the pregnancy and had the little boy put up for adoption. Now, she said something to me that will always stick with me when it comes to abortion:

"not only, do i not have the guilt of ending a childs life before it had the chance to begin, ive given a couple, unable to concieve the best gift in the world"

And this is it. You may not be in a position to care for the baby yourself, but somene could, and would be able to give that child a brilliant start in life.

However, when it comes to awful things like rape and forced pregnancy, its completely understandable why its too much for a woman to handle.

Choice, everyone has it, and the right to use it.

Hi Dru



This is certainly a subject that can get heated and I have no wish to cause any sort of bad feeling but I would like to ask you about your post. If life begins at conception (and I feel it does) doesnt that make abortion murder regardless of the reasons behind it?

i know this was directed at dru, but it caught my eye.

I think you may have a point. although "Murder" may be the word that lights the fuse on this bomb... But, in my opinion, its not far from the truth sometimes.

I think abortion has become so easy and quick now, its so clinical and sterile women have a better chance at putting no emotion to the situation at all.

But, you certainly wouldnt take a sledgehammer to a new born, or drug the child to end its life. But doing so a few months before birth seems to hold little moral reprise.

I dont know... its a tough one.

And we do have to bare in mind these awful situations of rape where a woman couldnt really be expected to mother the child of a man that assulted her and potentially ruined her life.

Is there actually an answer to this?







p.s, im really sorry if offend anyone with the metaphor of killing a child after birth, i hope you understand what i was trying to say.

So would you disregard the life of the unborn child?

the post i wrote just above yours should clear that up...

You Rock...Galwaygirl89....

Yes I see what you mean and it is something I have often asked, 'whats the difference between doing it while child is in the womb and doing it after birth'?

so do you moonlightstar....

It's not like this thread has some vague title to lure people in who may be very sensitive to the topic, therefore, I think it's perfectly ok as a forum topic.

I am absolutely pro-choice because I very nearly lost my one and only big sister to a self inflicted injury while attempting to induce a miscarriage with a knitting needle. She nearly bled to death. Her death would also have left her other 5 children motherless. There are reasons women resort to this tough decision and they are not all selfish reasons of convenience. Judge not lest YOU be judged!

As far as when life begins. Life does not begin at birth, the 3rd month OR at conception! To believe that, you must also believe that a womans egg is not alive nor a mans sperm! Furthermore, a woman has about 400 eggs at birth. If the church was so concerned about the sanctity of human life (imo the scourge of this once paradise planet) they should advocate harvesting every egg a woman has and preserve it in liquid Nitrogen. Don't even ask about sperm.

definately, its a very hard one to understand.

Obviously the personal situation of whoever is contemplating an abortion is a huge factor. But at its core, there is still this huge question of is it murder?

It seems to come down to a huge rift between the rights of the mother, and the rights of the child.

Unfortunately, it really is a no win situation sometimes.

So are many, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss them. If someone is going to be hurt by it, they don't have to participate or read it. Someone is going to be hurt by any subject, honestly...and we can't avoid them all and still have a forum that's this active.

I could ask so many questions about this post, and i must say its very saddening to hear your sister went through such turmoil over this topic. However... Just one real question.

When does life begin then? If not at conception, or birth or the 3rd month?

The highlighted part was funny, Ooby.

I am sorry to hear about your sister's experience, though. This is why I also believe that it should be an option for all women. And though I agree that eggs and sperm are alive and hold the potential for life within them, I believe life begins at conception for it's when the two combine to form a human life.

I know honey....discuss by all means, it just a delicate subject, so I give comment on what I can and then stand back and read....But it´s ok...its interesting how people think about this...

But how are you Dru....all well I hope.

i just found this and it actually nearly made me cry,

What of The Silent Scream?

A Realtime ultrasound video tape and movie of a 12- week suction abortion is commercially available as, The Silent Scream, narrated by Dr. B. Nathanson, a former abortionist. It dramatically, but factually, shows the pre-born baby dodging the suction instrument time after time, while its heartbeat doubles in rate. When finally caught, its body being dismembered, the baby’s mouth clearly opens wide — hence, the title "The silent scream"


How utterly heartbreaking is that? that a child can feel pain at 12 weeks. It really pushes the issue of WHEN DOES LIFE BEGIN.

Thank you..honey..Good comment..

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Yes, it does. And yet, I believe there are good reasons for it, Vonney, and stand behind a woman's choice to do so. I do understand why others are against it, and I hold all of life sacred, and yet I can still say that if any of my rapes had resulted in conceiving a child, I would most likely have aborted it myself rather than carry that reminder to fruition for nine months. If that makes me a hypocrite in some people's eyes, so be it. I'll also take the life of anyone who threatens mine. That would also make me a murderer, but I believe it would be justified in such a case.