I envy you becouse you have so much freedom!

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ContraryCol crawley, West Sussex, England UK
I envy you becouse you have so much freedom!
Is this a fair assumption towards an ex who does'nt have the burdon or the troubles of bringing up there children?
Why should you assume that life is better for them than it is for you?
We all have it hard.Don't we?
Do you look at friends or family and somehow think..
"How the hell do they manage to enjoy there life so much when there in the same boat as me"?
Do you think you have the ballance right between your family life and social life?
Where do others get it all wrong?
Is life harder or easier for the one left holding the baby?
ContraryCol crawley, West Sussex, England UK
Have I not explained the question clear enough or is this just a boring subject?
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SensualVixen Tampa Bay area, Florida USA
Why shouldn't BOTH parents be involved in the child(ren) upbringing? Just because the parents do not live together doesn't excuse the father, or mother, in their responsibilities of parental duties.
SensualVixen Tampa Bay area, Florida USA
ContraryCol: Have I not explained the question clear enough or is this just a boring subject?


Possibly, "they" have a better outlook and more positive attitude than you?
LusciousLibra Waterford, Waterford Ireland
ContraryCol: Have I not explained the question clear enough or is this just a boring subject?


I know what you mean... I used to think that about my ex.

That was until my sister told me that she envied my life... that I'm a mom where she couldn't be.

Talk about a reality check.
sweetowen Somewhere, Pennsylvania USA
SensualVixen: Why shouldn't BOTH parents be involved in the child(ren) upbringing? Just because the parents do not live together doesn't excuse the father, or mother, in their responsibilities of parental duties.


In the ideal situation, that happens. In my situation, he only bothered when he had a girlfriend he was trying to impress.

Now, he's trying to make up for lost time. Our daughter had gotten to the point where she didn't even call him "Dad" anymore, she called him by his first name.

We've been apart for 17 years & he's finally stepping up to the plate.

Yes, BOTH parents SHOULD be involved, barring any abusive situations. But that's not always the case. dunno



vonney Dublin, Dublin Ireland
ContraryCol: I envy you becouse you have so much freedom!
Is this a fair assumption towards an ex who does'nt have the burdon or the troubles of bringing up there children?
Why should you assume that life is better for them than it is for you?
We all have it hard.Don't we?
Do you look at friends or family and somehow think..
"How the hell do they manage to enjoy there life so much when there in the same boat as me"?
Do you think you have the ballance right between your family life and social life?
Where do others get it all wrong?
Is life harder or easier for the one left holding the baby?



I have never felt that life for my ex was better than for me.

In fact the opposite, I had the children everyday, for all the us and downs.
He chose not to have anything to do with them after he left. I think his life is less fulfilled than mine.
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
ContraryCol: I envy you becouse you have so much freedom!
Is this a fair assumption towards an ex who does'nt have the burdon or the troubles of bringing up there children?
Why should you assume that life is better for them than it is for you?
We all have it hard.Don't we?
Do you look at friends or family and somehow think..
"How the hell do they manage to enjoy there life so much when there in the same boat as me"?
Do you think you have the ballance right between your family life and social life?
Where do others get it all wrong?
Is life harder or easier for the one left holding the baby?


Why is it adults always feel sorry for themselves when relationships break down.Doesn't ANYONE these days think about the children. You both created them so it should be a shared responsibility.Unfortunately it very rarely is.
sweetowen Somewhere, Pennsylvania USA
bestbefore: Why is it adults always feel sorry for themselves when relationships break down.Doesn't ANYONE these days think about the children. You both created them so it should be a shared responsibility.Unfortunately it very rarely is.


Why should we be made to feel guilty & selfish if we think of ourselves ALONG WITH our children? Are we not to have feelings, as well?
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
I used to wonder about those that are/were "in the same boat as me" and how they always seem to enjoy life to the fullest without a care in the world. Then I came to this conclusion: just because life gives you a lemon doesn't mean you can't add to it! Add some water and sugar to have some lemonade! Heck, you might as well enjoy it the best you can cause you only live once. *just my two cents*drinking
sweetowen Somewhere, Pennsylvania USA
hopefloats: I used to wonder about those that are/were "in the same boat as me" and how they always seem to enjoy life to the fullest without a care in the world. Then I came to this conclusion: just because life gives you a lemon doesn't mean you can't add to it! Add some water and sugar to have some lemonade! Heck, you might as well enjoy it the best you can cause you only live once. *just my two cents*


thumbs up hug

BTW, my daughter & I are very close now. I'm glad I struggled & sacrificed for her. I get the pride in knowing I did all I could to bring her up properly. wine
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
sweetowen: Why should we be made to feel guilty & selfish if we think of ourselves ALONG WITH our children? Are we not to have feelings, as well?



Exactly!professor
ContraryCol crawley, West Sussex, England UK
SensualVixen: Why shouldn't BOTH parents be involved in the child(ren) upbringing? Just because the parents do not live together doesn't excuse the father, or mother, in their responsibilities of parental duties.

Hi Vixen.
I am not talking about one parent exclusively caring for the child/children here.I am talking about how the dynamics of one being the primary carer for them while the other looks on longingly missing being an equal/or even partial carer to there offspring due to the rules set out privately or by the courts.

I am involved with my two girls and i make myself available to them any time on the phone as well as when im needed to care for them.
But this is not just about me.
A man may well envy his ex having the children and her being involved with all aspects of there life from getting up to homework to sitting at home having fun in every day activities etc...
He has limited time maybe simply because he is not the main carer.
But she may feel "Its ok for you you lucky b@stard,you are free to date,go out and enjoy any time you please. As for me? I feel so restricted!!"
But what makes you think that he is so much happier?
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
sweetowen: BTW, my daughter & I are very close now. I'm glad I struggled & sacrificed for her. I get the pride in knowing I did all I could to bring her up properly.



I ditto that with my two sons as well.....thumbs up
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
sweetowen: Why should we be made to feel guilty & selfish if we think of ourselves ALONG WITH our children? Are we not to have feelings, as well?


This wasn't a critisism aimed at coping parents.I coped single handed for years both financially and mentally.I just felt the post was a bit one sided with no thought for the their offspring!teddybear
ContraryCol crawley, West Sussex, England UK
SensualVixen: Possibly, "they" have a better outlook and more positive attitude than you?

You presume way too much!
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
ContraryCol: Hi Vixen.
I am not talking about one parent exclusively caring for the child/children here.I am talking about how the dynamics of one being the primary carer for them while the other looks on longingly missing being an equal/or even partial carer to there offspring due to the rules set out privately or by the courts.

I am involved with my two girls and i make myself available to them any time on the phone as well as when im needed to care for them.
But this is not just about me.
A man may well envy his ex having the children and her being involved with all aspects of there life from getting up to homework to sitting at home having fun in every day activities etc...
He has limited time maybe simply because he is not the main carer.
But she may feel "Its ok for you you lucky b@stard,you are free to date,go out and enjoy any time you please. As for me? I feel so restricted!!"
But what makes you think that he is so much happier?



I can relate to what you've said in this post. And feeling "restricted" is NOT a fun place to be at. But as I said in my previous post, make the best of your situation.gift
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
ContraryCol: Hi Vixen.
I am not talking about one parent exclusively caring for the child/children here.I am talking about how the dynamics of one being the primary carer for them while the other looks on longingly missing being an equal/or even partial carer to there offspring due to the rules set out privately or by the courts.

I am involved with my two girls and i make myself available to them any time on the phone as well as when im needed to care for them.
But this is not just about me.
A man may well envy his ex having the children and her being involved with all aspects of there life from getting up to homework to sitting at home having fun in every day activities etc...
He has limited time maybe simply because he is not the main carer.
But she may feel "Its ok for you you lucky b@stard,you are free to date,go out and enjoy any time you please. As for me? I feel so restricted!!"
But what makes you think that he is so much happier?


Should have explained the thread with more content.Makes a bit more sense now.
ContraryCol crawley, West Sussex, England UK
sweetowen: BTW, my daughter & I are very close now. I'm glad I struggled & sacrificed for her. I get the pride in knowing I did all I could to bring her up properly.

I am sure you did.
Many primary carers feel they get the brunt of there childrens rath simply because there there and the other one is excluded to some degree.
SensualVixen Tampa Bay area, Florida USA
bestbefore: Should have explained the thread with more content.Makes a bit more sense now.


Yes, makes much more sense now.




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