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yes...i do agree with you on that. the believers all over the world very conveniently forget If god wanted everybody to be the same with same beliefs, cultures, religions and races, he could have simply done that. But why He decided against it? well, the reason he decided against it because God wants us to explore him one way or the other by exploring and learning about each other. In other words, in essence, we, humans, discover god and the discovery of god is not just one facet..it can be multi-facet.

Or we choose not tobelieve in god .......and it works for some of us

Well then, next time your tire goes flat , forget putting 75 cents in the air station at the gas station and drive on your rim all the way home ............

Again, i tend to disagree with you here a little bit. To me, it doesn't really matter if what i believe is true or not because it doesn't really affect my life the way i want to live. after carefully thinking about this issue, i have found out that even if what i believe would have been "true", ( and trust me i do believe that my belief is true) as opposed to being not true, i still would have lived the same way that i am living now. believing in something, again, is the easiest part whether it is true or not.

"Proven - still not by the standard offered
There is no such thing as a socially accepted fact. This, is called a belief. "

And, next time I go scuba diving - I'll wave off the tank and just go in without it with weights on ........

And the reason, i am choosing my words in this manner is that i do want to give the people, who have a different belief from mine, a breathing space from where we can launch a constructive dialogue and thereby learning more and more about the mystery of this world and the creator himself.

So you are living the way you want to live?

Absolutely...if god can live with that of your belief(or lack of it) and still supply you the foods, the air, the water just like he supplies everything to us,then who am i to question it?

yes..absolutely.

Hey...of course, there is something there we call Air - and throwing the tank off, of course, would be silly.
It was once socially accepted that the earth was the centre of the universe, was this a fact?

...and you are happy about that? Wouldn't really want to change it?

Not as yet...i don't really see a need to change it now. the world evolves and so does the human and their thought process. i haven't been such an intelligent person as yet to nullify every other thoughts and declare only my thoughts as valid. i don't live to call every other people wrong and only me is right. i am simply not that bright and intelligent. i can only pray to god almighty that he will give me more and more wisdom. But to ask for more and more wisdom and claiming to know and understand each and every mystery of god almighty are totally different things to me.

It seems like you accept seeing the effects of something, as proof it exists.

Which I understand.

According to scientists, 96% of our universe is missing, and cannot be found.
They have faith in the belief it's there, they only make the claim based on watching it's effect; but they only have a theory, they cannot prove it exists.

There are people who claim to be "atheist," but they cannot prove "atheists" exist.

If you accept that things exist, even though you cannot prove they are tangible...

It seems to me that you make a choice as to what you believe is tangible, and your standard of tangibility changes.

For the purpose of this discussion, can you set a standard of what is tangibile, and use it to prove "atheists" exist?

Atheists do exist because they are tangible.

Atheism is the belief u r disputing

No, I don't believe in "atheists."


A verbal declaration does not prove anything, you could be wrong.


If I find somebody who merely claims to be God, would you believe them?


Or, would you ask for something more tangible?

And you are aware of a process facilitating that, 'change', to what you see?

This process will be the sentence I posted earlier - whatever you believe is true.
good luck to you
galaxy

I'm coming in late on this and the OP probably won't even read it, but what the heck, I'll make my contribution anyway.

My husband was an atheist. How do I know? He told me that when he was in a fox hole in Korea, the only time he believed in God and prayed to Him was when he was in a fox hole.

You can bet there are men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan who don't believe in God yet they are praying under their breath that they make it out of that s-it hole alive.

Hi there Ms. Snuggs: Good luck trying to win any type of debate with this man.

If someone said the earth was round he was say "PROVE IT".

Especially those who didn't want to join the forces?!

I do hope they are all kept safe - but especially that the need for them to be there, be over.

I disagree with your interpretation of what you were told.


What you just wrote, is one of the reasons I don't believe in "atheists."