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you got waaay too much time on your hands. JMHO

I loved the line that began with "About five years ago, when I left the illuminati..."



(Lord, give me strength.)

Is it bad that I actually like his rantings? They make me feel tingly inside...

Here's another insider named Jon Todd who was around way back in the 70's. The fact that they framed him for rape and then killed him as soon as he got out of prison make him that more believable.

Look him up on youtube, especially the one about the music industry COMPLETELY controlled by the Masons.

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Now that we know a little about John Todd, Who is John Galt?

John Todd was a victim of their trauma-based total mind-control. He was a multiple. He experienced confusion, and contradicted himself, as is so common for a programmed multiple personality. This happens even more for one who breaks his programming script. He had every reason to fear these people. But something gave him the ability to rise above that fear. What was it? I believe it was Christ.

John Galt is merely a character in a fictional novel entitled Atlas Shrugged. He is not important, but the book is pertinent here to some degree. According to Todd, it was written by a mistress of Philip Rothschild under his orders as a coded blueprint of how these bad guys were going to take over the world. The plans in the book call for everything from derailing trains **DC crash an accident?*** and blowing up grain mills to destroying oil fields and shutting down the coal. **big mountaintop mining protests going on right now**


Some of these activities, I fully expect, are still scheduled to be carried out by the terrorist cells in this country. From several intelligence sources now, some reliable some not, this list can be updated to include release of biochemical agents, anthrax, smallpox, attacks on power plants and water supplies, even suitcase nukes, etc. Next, John explained how they would intentionally bankrupt their own corporations--all as part of the plan to collapse the economies of the world ( audio clip ). We know that this must take place so that a new cashless economic system could be implemented.



Here's a recent list reported from the Associated Press of the top 12 bankruptcies in America, which confirms what John said:
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More bankruptcies are coming, and you can take that to the bank...if you get there before it declares a Bank Holiday and closes its doors for good. You have two choices. Get your money out of the system or kiss it goodbye.

John gave one final cryptic quote ( audio clip ) in regards to his discussion of Atlas Shrugged, saying " Now the book ended, Atlas Shrugged, the timetable ended with this... 'When the lights of New York City go out for the last time we will have the world.' " When I first heard that, I thought it probably had something to do with planned power outages in New York.

However, in light of the attack on NY on September 11, 2001, and taking into consideration the prophecies and visions of men like Dumitru Duduman, David Meyer, A.A.Allen, Heny Gruver and others, I am convinced that it means the nuclear annihilation of New York City. There is a credible hypothesis adhered to by many that with the destruction of the UN headquarters in NY and with America crushed, the UN would then be moved to Jerusalem, where its leader will rule the world unhindered.

I think that you have read "Angels and Demons" once too often.

The Illuminati

Hitler believed he could take over and suppress the masses of the world. He was wrong.
Napoleon believed himself powerful enough to do the same. He failed.
Julius the Caesar only succeeded to appease his conquered enemies with bribes of land and gold. He was assassinated and his conquests dismantled into small city-states once Rome fell.
Alexander never succeeded in keeping his conquests firmly in his grasp.
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The Illuminati ( Bilderburgers, Committee of 300, Council on Foreign Relation... ) will also fail in their dream of controlling the world because Mankind finds its greatest strength in the face of its greatest enemies.
There is a weapon stronger than the ones that cause annihilation: Unity.
Different people from different ideologies have been known to unite against a common foe, to that latter's stupefaction.

It can, and will, happen again.

There are big differences though.

None of those dictators had todays technology at their disposal.

And people have no idea who or what to unite against. Secret Societies remain secret for a reason. The people will be guided to unite against fictional foes - like Bin Laden - to just keep them in line.

And the sheeple are programmed through movies and TV not to take any of this seriously. Just judging by the people on this site (which would be a good cross-section of the general population), they are in no shape to rebel against ANY form of tryanny. They don't even know they're slaves. Deaf, blind, and dumb.

Also, bible prophecy fortells it's going to happen. It's already a done deal. It's only a matter of if you will be in the soup-lines or think ahead.

"Although I walk in the valley of shadows, I shall fear no evil."

This world is doomed every day. We all are doomed at every moment of the day.

"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."

There has always been two kinds of people, the leaders and the followers. When shit hits the fan, the 'sheeple' will always turn to the ones who say "see, I told you so".

Are you afraid of death? If you are, you will be weeping in the breadlines.
If you're not, you will lead others to freedom.

"Although I walk in the valley of the shadow of death"

Forgive me, it's not one I use so often as I understand it viscerally.

I feel more frustration than fear about the fact that more people don't take this stuff seriously. My own parents are duped by FOX News, my sister thinks it would be on NPR if true, by brother is indifferent.

Here is more from some insiders:

As if there wasn't enough about Dick Cheney to repulse you, where is more.

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Both Cathy O'Brien and Brice Taylor were victims of the CIA's MK-Ultra mind control program, which is designed to create human robots to serve functions ranging from prostitutes to couriers to killers.

Their families belong to secret satanic sects that sexually abuse their children generation after generation to produce the trauma which causes multiple personality disorder. In this traumatized condition the mind splinters into many compartments. Victims exhibit extraordinary powers of recollection and endurance and can be easily programmed to do anything.

These cults operate within many organizations including charities, churches, boys/girls clubs, Masonic lodges, day cares and private schools.

Society is being subjected to the same type of trauma-based programming using constant war and atrocities that include Auschwitz, Hiroshima, the Kennedy assassinations, Sept. 11 and Abu Ghraib. We are being collectively desensitized on the one hand, and programmed to focus on sex, violence, trivia and empty social rituals on the other.

Both women were sexually abused as babies. Cathy O'Brien was often given her father's penis instead of a baby bottle. Congressman Gerald Ford, who was involved in drug trafficking and child pornography with the Michigan mob, initiated her into the MK Ultra Program. (No wonder Betty Ford drank.)

O'Brien's father prostituted her as a child to friends, business associates and politicians as a favor, or for money. She also appeared in numerous child pornography and bestiality films. When you read this book you will understand who Jon Benet Ramsay was and why there was no resolution to her murder.

DEPRAVITY


O'Brien (born in 1957) says she serviced an array of politicians including the cocaine snorting Clintons (A Three-Way), Ronald Reagan, George H.W Bush, Dick Cheney, Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, Governors Lamar Alexander and Richard Thornburgh, Bill Bennett (author of The Book of Virtues), Senators Patrick Leahy, Robert Byrd (her handler) and Arlen Spector. Notable by their absence were Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon. Taylor (born in 1951) slept with JFK and LBJ as a preteen and teenager.

When O'Brien's daughter Kelly was born in 1980, they often worked as a mother-daughter team. George H.W. Bush particularly liked Kelly. Cheney is not a pederast because his large genitals horrify children. (195)

Referring to George Bush, Dick Cheney told her: "A Vice President is just that, an undercover agent taking control of the drug industry for the President." (158)

George Bush Jr. was present on one occasion but is not accused. (196) O'Brien was rescued by Mark Philips in 1988. It is likely that Bush Jr. is involved in this mind control, drug and sex scene. Rumors swirl around him and his behavior is erratic. Remember the pretzel incident? In 2003, Margie Schroedinger a woman who was suing the President for rape "committed suicide."

Sen. Robert Byrd, who controls the nation's purse strings, justified to Cathy his involvement in drug distribution, pornography and white slavery as a means of "gaining control of all illegal activity world wide" to fund Black Budget covert activity that would "bring about world peace through world dominance and total control."

He said, "95% of the people want to be led by the 5%." Proof is that "the 95% do not want to know what really goes on in government." Byrd believed that mankind must take a "giant step in evolution through creating a superior race."

Byrd believed in "the annihilation of underprivileged nations and cultures" through genocide and genetic engineering to breed "the more gifted, the blonds of the world." (118)

O'Brien visited a series secret paramilitary compounds throughout the US like one at Mount Shasta in California. "I learned that this not-so-secret military buildup consisted of special forces trained robotic soldiers, black unmarked helicopters, and top secret weaponry including electromagnetic mind control equipment."

At these compounds O'Brien and her daughter were often hunted like wild animals, tortured and raped for the amusement of CIA, military and politicians.

O'Brien worked as a sex slave at Bohemian Grove, the elite's perversion playground on the Russian River in California. She says the place is wired for video in order to capture world leaders in compromising acts.

"Slaves of advancing age or with failing programming were ritualistically murdered at random in the wooded grounds of Bohemian Grove...There was a room of shackles and tortures, an opium den, ritualistic sex altars, group orgy rooms...I was used as a "rag doll" in the toy store and as a urinal in the "golden arches" room." (169-170)

Strangely, mind controlled sex slaves are used as diplomats and lobbyists as well. At a Governor's Conference, Secretary of Education Bill Bennett advised O'Brien to "persuade these Governors at their weakest moment, bring them to their knees while you are on yours, and convince them that global education [the Education 2000 initiative] is the way to the future if there is to be any future at all." (173)

How do you explain that the Woman was even able to talk?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles12.htm

Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to even guess. The good news is that if a person is debt-free, owes nothing to the government or credit debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do better than others. I would invest in gold, not stocks, if I had the income. Gold will once again be the world standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember after the Civil War? Our money will be worth about what confederate money was after the collapse).

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After reading all your posts from the Original post to the last, I have questions, that I want real answers for, not just your standard cut and paste craftmanship:
1. How did you join?
2. Why did you join?
3. Why did you leave?
4. Why are you telling the secrets?

In my view, secret societies recruit individuals that have: 1. Something to offer their cause. 2) The stamina to see it through.

Don't secret societies make you swear some kind of binding oath? To prevent leaks like this ?

I was under the impression that the Illuminati was formed by scientists, philosphers, writers, artists, Enlightened people that questioned the established order founded by the Church and were silenced by the Church...forcing these Enlightened individuals to seek cover in order to thrive and survive. Again, I'll ask: What do you have to offer to the Illuminati, in terms of science, philosophy, writings or artistry? Or are you just part of the armed "arm" of the Group? Why did you leave?

There is only a few things that I find useful about your original post and it is highlighted and underlined above (in blue). The rest, is a waste of space and time. Straight from Dan Brown's imagination. His books are good though...and HE doesn't claim any of the events are true.

My very humble opinion.

Where is Sparky when we need him?

This could indeed be a very accurate prognosis, but fortunately there does exist a "higher law" in this world that even members of the (very worldly) illuminati have no power over - and the more thoughtful ones among them know it! Although the scenario described CAN occur, it doesn't necessarily have to. We cannot possibly have access to whatever is being planned in any of the Bilderberg meetings, but we certainly can use our intuition (if it has not already been dumbed down - for example by what they're putting in chewing gum, Cola drinks and water supplies...!). If anyone wishes to know how they manage to keep everyone in ignorance then just take a look at my webpage (address in profile).
Unfortunately, in this world you can't even rely upon the confessions of an "illuminati insider". The TRUTH has to come to YOU - both worldly AND spiritual!

This thread is becoming weirder and weirder.

Now, where is the OP? I want answers to my questions.

As a comment on Sanbhava's post: Although it is a very likely scenario, I still think that we cannot live our lives in panic and paranoia, thinking only of the worse case scenario...this same conspiracy theories have been around with variations, for many, many years. And mankind is still here. Yes, new viruses, new illnesses, new wars, new whackos...but if there is something to be said about human beings, is that we adapt, evolve and keep on going.

Somehow I can't help but to think about that movie "Blast from the Past", with Brendan Fraser and Alicia Silverstone...where Fraser lived in a bomb shelter for 35 years after a nuclear bomb scarein the 60's...

Are we going to live like this? I rather die with my whole family evaporated by a bomb or whatever, but having lived, not shying away and panicking in the face of every possible scenario...

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