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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:31 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
In 2001 Portugal decriminalised all illegal drugs.
Many predicted chaos with drug tourists flooding the
country and addict numbers increasing dramatically.
So, what has happened in the intervening years?

Quite the opposite in fact.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:59 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
SImply a fascinating read there Graham! Although I am a believer in the decriminalising of drugs as I with the very realms of what Portugal has done, push it overground not under! Same with prostitution!

Fantastic for Portugal and how it has worked for them and their people. Very impressive!
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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:02 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
bodleing: In 2001 Portugal decriminalised all illegal drugs.
Many predicted chaos with drug tourists flooding the
country and addict numbers increasing dramatically.
So, what has happened in the intervening years?

Quite the opposite in fact.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
Interesting!wave
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heatherhuntsman van nuys, California USA
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:02 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
very interesting I would like to read more about this. I am in California . I do not spend to much time on current events. I am interested in this,Where can I read more?angel blushing
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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:06 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Sommerauer71: SImply a fascinating read there Graham! Although I am a believer in the decriminalising of drugs as I with the very realms of what Portugal has done, push it overground not under! Same with prostitution!

Fantastic for Portugal and how it has worked for them and their people. Very impressive!


Yes, you have to applaud the powers that be in Portugal
for being bold enough to give it a try.
What remains to be seen is if any other countries follow
suit.
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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:07 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
heatherhuntsman: very interesting I would like to read more about this. I am in California . I do not spend to much time on current events. I am interested in this,Where can I read more?


Just google 'decriminalisation of drugs Portugal.'

Lots of info available.
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sambhava Vasteras, Vastmanland Sweden
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:09 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Yeah! Well it's about time they CRIMINALIZED the !!LEGAL!! ones!!!
In response to: In 2001 Portugal decriminalised all illegal drugs.
Many predicted chaos with drug tourists flooding the
country and addict numbers increasing dramatically.
So, what has happened in the intervening years?

Quite the opposite in fact.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:14 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Nevertheless the law, the Police keeps persecuting drug addicts. No coffee shops there, apparent liberalisation, but the police keeps chasing places and people that allegedly sell them. In Lisbon, at Bairro Alto- the bars neighbourhood,for example, we see it all the time. If so it is in the capital, worse it is in other districts. Lisbon is by far a privileged town...
The assistance they get there is not different from what they get here, in The Netherlands.

Legalize, hell yeahhead banger. The effect makes sense.

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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:16 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
sambhava: Yeah! Well it's about time they CRIMINALIZED the !!LEGAL!! ones!!!


Well I would be the first to agree with you on that one.

Certainly in the case of some Government drugs.



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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:18 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive.html?siteSect=883&sid=9885833&ty=st

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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:18 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Conrad73: Interesting!


Yes it is Conrad.

There was just a report about it on the BBC news
so I thought I'd look into it further.


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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:22 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
cristina: Nevertheless the law, the Police keeps persecuting drug addicts. No coffee shops there, apparent liberalisation, but the police keeps chasing places and people that allegedly sell them. In Lisbon, at Bairro Alto- the bars neighbourhood,for example, we see it all the time. If so it is in the capital, worse it is in other districts. Lisbon is by far a privileged town...
The assistance they get there is not different from what they get here, in The Netherlands.

Legalize, hell yeah. The effect makes sense.
I had a feeling you would enter this Cris and nice to have an insider view on that.

If people are selling, surely the authorities are trying to clamp down on money gained 'under the table' If all the drugs are decriminalised, surely being in possession of them now, since 2001 would be like carrying a packet of cigarettes?
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:24 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
bodleing: Yes, you have to applaud the powers that be in Portugal
for being bold enough to give it a try.
What remains to be seen is if any other countries follow
suit.
Indeed Graham, I certainly do any country that is bold enough to undertake such a task. Which can by no means be easy. That being said the health results look good and of course here is hoping that the country is a cleaner one for all it's residents and of course the crime has dropped too. I fail to recognise how that at all can be a bad thing.
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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:25 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Conrad73: http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive.html?siteSect=883&sid=9885833&ty=st


Surely just a matter of time.



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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:36 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Sommerauer71: I had a feeling you would enter this Cris and nice to have an insider view on that.

If people are selling, surely the authorities are trying to clamp down on money gained 'under the table' If all the drugs are decriminalised, surely being in possession of them now, since 2001 would be like carrying a packet of cigarettes?


Honey, I haven't heard the selling was legal there...no way! It should be, if it's decriminalised!
The measure was only thought for the heavy ones to get assistance. They now fall in the cathegory of sick ones, they get shots for free. It's good because it avoids disturbance aiming at getting the doses. But that, in practice is allowed here. Actually, many Dutch permissive eccentricities aren't legalised but tolerated. So does happened even with Euthanasia.

We need practical decriminalisation. It's more efficient!laugh
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
cristina: Honey, I haven't heard the selling was legal there...no way! It should be, if it's decriminalised!
The measure was only thought for the heavy ones to get assistance. They now fall in the cathegory of sick ones, they get shots for free. It's good because it avoids disturbance aiming at getting the doses. But that, in practice is allowed here. Actually, many Dutch permissive eccentricities aren't legalised but tolerated. So does happened even with Euthanasia.

We need practical decriminalisation. It's more efficient!


Disturbance aimed*
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Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:38 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
bodleing: Surely just a matter of time.
Especially since it has to come before the People as a referendum,or the people can collect 100'000 Signatures and force a Referendum to legalize or at least decriminalize whatever Substance they think proper.yay
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bodleing Greater Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:45 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
Conrad73: Especially since it has to come before the People as a referendum,or the people can collect 100'000 Signatures and force a Referendum to legalize or at least decriminalize whatever Substance they think proper.


Power to the people. yay



peace



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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:47 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
bodleing: Power to the people.


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Berlait Algés, Lisboa Portugal
Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:06 PM CST : Decriminalising ALL illegal drugs does work (seemingly)
peace head banger smoking
I'm just a poor victim of the portuguese legal system...rolling on the floor laughing
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