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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:42 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
I never liked the guy or his music but I have been bombarded by stuff around him lately...so Well, I read a bit about his life and came across his relationship with dad, how savage that man was and how many scars he left in this poor guy that never found peace in this world. Anyway, without trying to get into clichés of compassion I would like to know from people with better knowledge on this subject, how much Jackson´s life has been influenced by his father´s savagery. It would be interesting to think of that, interesting for all of us, hopeless happiness-seekers.
Thanks for any kind contribution.
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:51 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
MJ was fragile;
His other brothers and sisters also had ressentiments toward their father;
He grew up in the 60's, where everybody was fighting for freedom and all kinds of oppression and he had to swallow his dictator father, work, work;
His father used to abuse him verbally and phisically. Called him ugly many times.
He just felt it more than the others.

sad flower
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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:53 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: MJ was fragile;
His other brothers and sisters also had ressentiments toward their father;
He grew up in the 60's, where everybody was fighting for freedom and all kinds of oppression and he had to swallow his dictator father, work, work;
His father used to abuse him verbally and phisically. Called him ugly many times.
He just felt it more than the others.

It´s true. I render my homage to him then, as another suffering creature in this world. sad flower
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:58 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Antjo39: It´s true. I render my homage to him then, as another suffering creature in this world.


If our friends are late here or preparing their wappens, it's because we've head a lot of threads on him.kiss hug
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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:00 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: If our friends are late here or preparing their wappens, it's because we've head a lot of threads on him.

Yes, probably. I went through a few of them rapidly but I do not like to read people saying they are sad because he was the "king of pop"...I find it plastic...anyway, thanks for reply. hug
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:03 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Antjo39: Yes, probably. I went through a few of them rapidly but I do not like to read people saying they are sad because he was the "king of pop"...I find it plastic...anyway, thanks for reply.


I'm going to bed now.
Enjoycheers
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:05 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
You're welcome.
I love himhug
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:07 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: If our friends are late here or preparing their wappens, it's because we've head a lot of threads on him.
Preparing their wot????? Evening Mrs.

Antjo, I believe that his father had a massive influence on MJ and that has led to alot of his behaviour over the years. I am not au fait with the whole story, but I do know that the father was a massive influence on him. Those sort of things spill over generation after generation and there was no blockade in stopping the continuation of the influences. I don't think he was the King of Pop, but he was a genius musically and certainly was the face that introduced the world to MTV and he will always be remembered for his contribution to music.
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:10 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Preparing their wot????? Evening Mrs.

Antjo, I believe that his father had a massive influence on MJ and that has led to alot of his behaviour over the years. I am not au fait with the whole story, but I do know that the father was a massive influence on him. Those sort of things spill over generation after generation and there was no blockade in stopping the continuation of the influences. I don't think he was the King of Pop, but he was a genius musically and certainly was the face that introduced the world to MTV and he will always be remembered for his contribution to music.


wapen is Dutchrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing I knew I read that word somewhere today. Weapon thenlaugh wave
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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:11 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Preparing their wot????? Evening Mrs.

Antjo, I believe that his father had a massive influence on MJ and that has led to alot of his behaviour over the years. I am not au fait with the whole story, but I do know that the father was a massive influence on him. Those sort of things spill over generation after generation and there was no blockade in stopping the continuation of the influences. I don't think he was the King of Pop, but he was a genius musically and certainly was the face that introduced the world to MTV and he will always be remembered for his contribution to music.

Sad that parents have the ability to screw us up more than to guide us. Thanks for reply Sommer.cheers
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:14 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: wapen is Dutch I knew I read that word somewhere today. Weapon then
Don't you laugh too much in this thread. We are in a thread about a person who is recently deceased.
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:16 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Don't you laugh too much in this thread. We are in a thread about a person who is recently deceased.


I'm a fan, so it's okwink laugh
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:16 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Antjo39: Sad that parents have the ability to screw us up more than to guide us. Thanks for reply Sommer.
Ah, but then I am a bit hard when it comes to that Antjo. Because I believe in the end we are all truly responsible for our own actions. My mother is a paranoid psychophrenic and has been for as long as I can remember, yet all my own screw ups have been entirely of my own doing. Nothing to do with her. I think the human race is screwed up anyway. History cements that for me.
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:17 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: I'm a fan, so it's ok
Well, so we can smile then? Oh good.
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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:17 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Don't you laugh too much in this thread. We are in a thread about a person who is recently deceased.

In some cultures like the one in the Andean Mountains, death is welcome with mirth, That way, the souls can go without extra burden about any terrenal mourning . There´s no need to be so sad then..cheers
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:19 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Well, so we can smile then? Oh good.


Yes, I believe socool
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:20 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Antjo39: In some cultures like the one in the Andean Mountains, death is welcome with mirth, That way, the souls can go without extra burden about any terrenal mourning . There´s no need to be so sad then..
Now this I like, my granny taught me never to be sad at someone's passing, saying that I should never miss them as they never leave us... I cannot and will not subscribe to this myth that we all have to be sombre and sad at the passing of one, especially that of a celebrity that I have no emotional bond with. Tell me more Antjo.
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Antjo39 Pucara, Puno Peru
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:20 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Ah, but then I am a bit hard when it comes to that Antjo. Because I believe in the end we are all truly responsible for our own actions. My mother is a paranoid psychophrenic and has been for as long as I can remember, yet all my own screw ups have been entirely of my own doing. Nothing to do with her. I think the human race is screwed up anyway. History cements that for me.

Yes, it is right you´re hard as people need to change things and do not get stagnant in self-pity and the past facts. Scars can be healed soemhow, or at least, our constant struggle to delete them can bring us something beyond what we got in our early life, particularly from terrible parents.
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Sommerauer71 Salzburg, Salzburg Austria
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:21 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
cristina: Yes, I believe so
Oh good, now I want to howl and I am not being disrespectful to MJ, at all. He was brilliant and in some respects, Cris, I think he is better off where he is and being remembered as a musical genius. There that is my thought!
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cristina Lisbon, Groningen Netherlands
Sun Jul 5, 2009 5:24 PM CST : Michael Jackson and his father
Sommerauer71: Oh good, now I want to howl and I am not being disrespectful to MJ, at all. He was brilliant and in some respects, Cris, I think he is better off where he is and being remembered as a musical genius. There that is my thought!


Yeah,right, controversy when I wanna go to bedtongue
Better for who? Not for him nor his fans, I'm sure.
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