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nfowler nowhere, Washington USA
druidess6308: And by the way, welcome back.
thank you....and to your thread a lot of men don't even love themselves so they are very uncomfortable saying to another person...and they're homophobeswink
Whooops Bournemouth, Dorset, England UK
druidess6308: That's rare, though, Snuggs...at least in this country. For the men, that is. Yes, there are some like you who aren't comfortable with it at all, and it's something I respect if I know that...though it does make me wonder why. But that's because I'm eternally curious about people and what makes everyone tick.

And I disagree...I think that the word love is underused. We don't say it often enough to our friends and family. But again, that's me.

I do think it's overused by some romantically, but that's not what this is about. I don't think it can be overused by friends. We all need to hear it and know that we're loved.


If i may interject here, being British i feel its very relevant to expand on this ..... We have a culture here where we dont say I Love You enough - especially to our friends, we hide all of our emotions, good and bad which makes it hard to teach our children to show us how they feel. Only after losing so many friends and family over the latter years have i realised just how important it is to tell those i care about while i have the time, it was a new experience for me telling my friends that i loved them but one that has always been reciprocated by those true friends.

I feel it is important to tell those we care about, no matter how we may feel about it or how embarrassed we may be. I now end all of my conversations with those people by telling them i love them. It feels good to know im loved back and it feels good knowing that if anything ever happens to them the last thing i told them was that i loved them !


teddybear



nfowler nowhere, Washington USA
would you like a real answer Dru



Snuggs09 Livingston, New Jersey USA
druidess6308: That's rare, though, Snuggs...at least in this country. For the men, that is. Yes, there are some like you who aren't comfortable with it at all, and it's something I respect if I know that...though it does make me wonder why. But that's because I'm eternally curious about people and what makes everyone tick.

And I disagree...I think that the word love is underused. We don't say it often enough to our friends and family. But again, that's me.

I do think it's overused by some romantically, but that's not what this is about. I don't think it can be overused by friends. We all need to hear it and know that we're loved.



What is rare Dru?

I would like to comment further but I don't want to hijack your thread.
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Whooops: If i may interject here, being British i feel its very relevant to expand on this ..... We have a culture here where we dont say I Love You enough - especially to our friends, we hide all of our emotions, good and bad which makes it hard to teach our children to show us how they feel. Only after losing so many friends and family over the latter years have i realised just how important it is to tell those i care about while i have the time, it was a new experience for me telling my friends that i loved them but one that has always been reciprocated by those true friends.

I feel it is important to tell those we care about, no matter how we may feel about it or how embarrassed we may be. I now end all of my conversations with those people by telling them i love them. It feels good to know im loved back and it feels good knowing that if anything ever happens to them the last thing i told them was that i loved them !


Thank you for sharing that, Whoops. And maybe that's part of why I make sure to say it more often. Having lost my last husband, and seeing so many die around me at young ages (early 50's is young to me), I realized just how short life is, and how important it is to say these words to those we love.

It is easier here in the states for women, though. Just not for men. hug
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Snuggs09: What is rare Dru?

I would like to comment further but I don't want to hijack your thread.
Read it again, Snuggs. It was explained further in the next sentence. hug
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
nfowler: would you like a real answer Dru


Yes, Fowler. Though I agree that many here in the US are homophobes.
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
IMO the word "love" is over used.

I do understand where you are coming from Suggs but have to disagree.

In my opinion it's not used enough.If we had more love in the world ,brother to brother ,sister to sister, there would be less hate in the world.peace



Snuggs09 Livingston, New Jersey USA
Whooops: If i may interject here, being British i feel its very relevant to expand on this ..... We have a culture here where we dont say I Love You enough - especially to our friends, we hide all of our emotions, good and bad which makes it hard to teach our children to show us how they feel. Only after losing so many friends and family over the latter years have i realised just how important it is to tell those i care about while i have the time, it was a new experience for me telling my friends that i loved them but one that has always been reciprocated by those true friends.
I feel it is important to tell those we care about, no matter how we may feel about it or how embarrassed we may be. I now end all of my conversations with those people by telling them i love them. It feels good to know im loved back and it feels good knowing that if anything ever happens to them the last thing i told them was that i loved them !


May I ask....are those friends in real life? If so, I can understand how you want to tell them that you love them.

People say here all the time that they are friends to each other and in my opinion, they are acquaintenances. I put more value to a friend than someone I write to in a public forum.

I'm not hiding any emotion. I am very open with my feelings good or bad. There are people on here that I like very much but I don't love them no matter how much they support me. They are just good people and I appreciate them.

I tell my daughter and my son-in-law that I love them and yet I don't do it everytime I speak to them. It is just known that I love them. If my daughter and I have a spat, like mothers and daughters do, I might end the conversation with "I love you" and she will say it back.



Snuggs09 Livingston, New Jersey USA
druidess6308: Read it again, Snuggs. It was explained further in the next sentence.


This is getting blown out of proportion like so many other threads when you have an opinion that someone else doesn't like.

I'm not going to defend myself any longer. I am true to who I am and with that I will always be true to anyone I say I love you to.
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Snuggs09: This is getting blown out of proportion like so many other threads when you have an opinion that someone else doesn't like.

I'm not going to defend myself any longer. I am true to who I am and with that I will always be true to anyone I say I love you to.


I didn't see where you needed to defend your answer, or where anything is getting blown out of proportion, Snuggs.

There is no right or wrong answer here...it was to discuss cultural differences.

And I was just keeping that answer simple, telling you to read again the sentence after "that's rare"...because I wasn't referring to you, and you would understand that if you read the clarifying sentence. I was referring to the men in that movie, since it was American men.

doh bouquet Peace.
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
druidess6308: And by the way, welcome back.



I love you Dru,I don't know you personally but I love you for what you represent.heart wings



AcousticBill Bensalem, Pennsylvania USA
BOBANBOBAN: i would rather have a swimm with the sharks...


BOBANBOBAN...I Love you man!
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
bestbefore: I love you Dru,I don't know you personally but I love you for what you represent.


Thank you, BB. And I love you too. You're a very wise and warm woman. hug

And I don't think it takes knowing someone in person. There are many on here who I love dearly, though I've never met them in person, and might never get to do so. One feels their realness through the computer. Granted, it's not the same as those I can reach out and touch in person, but it's not less to me either.

I think here in the forums many of us share who we truly are, whether we always agree or not.



Snuggs09 Livingston, New Jersey USA
druidess6308: I didn't see where you needed to defend your answer, or where anything is getting blown out of proportion, Snuggs.

There is no right or wrong answer here...it was to discuss cultural differences.

And I was just keeping that answer simple, telling you to read again the sentence after "that's rare"...because I wasn't referring to you, and you would understand that if you read the clarifying sentence. I was referring to the men in that movie, since it was American men.

Peace.


Dru, when you said "read it again", I was annoyed. If I understood it the first time what you meant, I wouldn't have asked .... what do you mean. If someone asked me ... what do you mean...I would explain it further, not tell them to read it again.

You said it wasn't referring to me but that's what it sounded like the way you wrote your response. The majority of posters say that I love you isn't said enough. I think that might be true when there is someone you do really do love. But let me ask those posters, would you die for the people you love?

Love is a committment. I would die for my daughter because children are in a category of unconditional love. Her husband is the greatest man I've ever known and if it meant saving the both of them, I would do it in a heartbeat.

No hard feelings,



AcousticBill Bensalem, Pennsylvania USA
In all honesty...I do occasionally say "I love you" to my close male friends. I'm a bit out of the norm, though!
bestbefore poole, Dorset, England UK
AcousticBill: In all honesty...I do occasionally say "I love you" to my close male friends. I'm a bit out of the norm, though!


You've got to have heart

All you really need is Heart.

Queue for a song and I admire honesty in a man.
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
Snuggs09: Dru, when you said "read it again", I was annoyed. If I understood it the first time what you meant, I wouldn't have asked .... what do you mean. If someone asked me ... what do you mean...I would explain it further, not tell them to read it again.

You said it wasn't referring to me but that's what it sounded like the way you wrote your response. The majority of posters say that I love you isn't said enough. I think that might be true when there is someone you do really do love. But let me ask those posters, would you die for the people you love?

Love is a committment. I would die for my daughter because children are in a category of unconditional love. Her husband is the greatest man I've ever known and if it meant saving the both of them, I would do it in a heartbeat.

No hard feelings,


Sorry, Snuggs. I didn't mean to offend you.

You brought up a point about the different ways we can see love. You see it as a commitment, so you say it less. I see it as an emotion, something that I just feel, so I say it more. To me, it's only a commitment in a romantic relationship. Loving my friends is different.

I don't know that I'd die for her, but I certainly love on friend enough to help her beat her cancer by making life-style and diet changes with her to walk by her side in her battle. I love my friends here and locally enough to help any that I can if possible. You might not say "I love you", but you do show it, my friend. And that's just as meaningful...maybe more so.
druidess6308 Reverse, Pennsylvania USA
AcousticBill: In all honesty...I do occasionally say "I love you" to my close male friends. I'm a bit out of the norm, though!


That is rare here in the US. I think it's cool, though.

I go to a Spirituality center where the men do hug each other comfortably, and where it's also okay for them to just shake hands if it's not comfortable for them. I think it's nice to see that, for I've never totally understood the social stigma of it...perhaps because love and touch are just what I am.

teddybear



nfowler nowhere, Washington USA
It is a butchering of languages or at least a lack of expression in the English language. Take for instance the Greek Koine Language. Though it is a dead language now it,when spoken fluently in the Greek empire, had 4 different words for love depending on the type of love that it was. Phili'a was the word used for affection toward a friend.

However in todays society most individuals have a sense of e'ros love when using the words "I love you". E'ros love denotes a romantic love and that is the first thing that comes to mind for most people.

We as a common language speaking people have lost so much understanding with our butchering of the language.
over the last hundred years or so words that were once used to differentiate between certain things have become meshed into utter jibberish.




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