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For a loving couple, I would say yes, they will want to stay there and do nothing, and never to change from that happy state that they have found.

A singleton out looking for love is craving for change to happen.

But an individuals mind needs to be prepared for change because sure as heck it's going to happen, wheather it be for good or bad. But that's life, due to influences of others around you mainly. For me I'm in a nice spot and enjoying the detachment, the lack of responsability, the selfishness, the solitude etc. I don't want things to change just yet, I need to revel in this state for a while longer and recharge the batteries before I go and spoil it all by falling head over heals in love again !!!

P.S. Golf .... got one eye on the TV for the Scottish Open at Loch Lomond, it looks glorious. Did you say you are going to Turnberry next week, you lucky dorg .....

I dunno bout that one, RD, I have to think more on that one. I like to retain my own thoughts even when in a relationship and while I like to grow within that unit, I still find some room for change in me as a person. I'll be back with thoughts on that one.



In what way? With themselves, so they are more attractive? Can you let up on that one for me a tad please, if you have time.



Now I like this, because I think when a person is feeling at peace, as you seem to be, then it is a wonderful place to be, I was like that before I sort of dropped into a relationship and sometimes reluctant to give that up, but I embraced it with a realisation that I could still be at peace in my new role as a partner and I could still be all of those things when we are apart.

I is, leave the Captain's on Tuesday (sob) Turnberry Thursday, (cheers)

I turn into many John's! I truly believe that there are many John's in me. I know for sure that when I was working I had a business John. He was the political correct one.

There is the family John who is like the "Godfather" in that he would do anything for family.

There is best friend John who hangs with his buddies and has this personality on the golf course and while fishing that is different than all the other John's. This John is very, very competitive.

There is the dating John who becomes the outgoing and funny John who is a great listener.

There is the caring John who volunteers at soup kitchens, Boy Scouts, Knights of Columbus and Church activities. This John is the do-gooder.

I change into each John quickly and at a moment notice. They never meet each other. Each stays away from the other.

Hey big man, what a great insight into the lovely John...

I think you are right, there are so many 'roles' that we play in life that we cannot be just one being and each role has a true place within us all...

This is an Ambrose type thread, he'll do some brilliant stuff in here.

The roles we play are sometimes complex and hard to understand in relationship to the people with interact. You would think that we could take some parts of one personality and use it in another, but I find usually did doesn't happen. In fact, I find it uncomfortable when two of the personalities bump into each other. Example: I don't like volunteer John to be around best friend John. These two are totally opposites.

I wonder if I am a John?

Do people open the door and sit down on top of you and use a Sear catalog when finished? If so, you are a john.

..no, I think you are thinking of brothels! I meant a John.

It's a bit like asking how long does it take a woman to get ready for a date, they need to go through various stages of dress and undress, modelling different clothes and picking the first one they tried, then they need to modify the hair and makeup, and yet, as soon as they arrive at the venue, immediately they go to "freshen up" and add more makeup, flounce up the hair.

Not all women are like this (Disclaimer) as not all people find themselves at any one stage of life, we mould and blend with our environment and social makeup, yes we have always had that inner persona, but, at any one time that persona can change due to outside influences.

Well I know what I mean

Regarding couples, I supose I was off the thread there because this is about the individual. What I was meaning was that "change" is most likely the reason for previous relationships to go wrong. So couples are not going to welcome any kind of change that could jeopardize that.

For singletons, I mean to go fully into a relationship requires a great deal of change. You can't just be yourself, you need to consider another, but you need to be ready for that and desire it.

But this is about one's self, so as John says there are rolls and duties that need to be played in life, perhaps as a husband, father, businessman, soldier .. whatever. You are what you are when wearing those shoes, but when you go paddling barefoot is when you take time to find your true self, finding that time is important. And needs to be repeated because we will change again in someway as the decades pass.

Enjoy the Open

you do have a sense of humour after all

Great to hear your reports on the trip BJ ... keep 'em coming

In a few minutes I am heading out the door and driving up to Sturgis to see why bikers like the place. Then I am going up to Devils Tower and enjoy the monument where Close Encounters of a Third Kind was filmed. Tomorrow it will be a drive out into the Badlands. Monday I head to Yellowstone National Park.

I am envious of it all. Yellowstone on a motorbike is my dream one day. Have you managed to find folk to play golf with on your travels ? You must have played some wonderful courses.

a lifetime.

Yes I am playing golf about every other or every third day. Yesterday I played a fantastic course up in the Black Hills of South Dakota called The Golf Club at Red Rock. Beautifl and difficult course. Also I got to see some deer on #17 tee.

I made the Thread and went to bed thinking it was going nowhere.

This morning I read it all at once.The contributors seem to have largely settled on a theme of Personal Evolution.Sommerauer emphasized Process.Big John came up with the Faceted Big John which I thought was brilliant.

It was mostly metamorphosis and the gradual accruel of experience that shapes a new creature from the prior one.

Thank you for your insights.I will try to come up with a thread to launch a different way of looking at the progression of individual life.

Call it THE MORNING AFTER THE END OF THE WORLD
It will be up soon.Hope we can have some thoughtful fun with it.

I came from the womb of a wonderful lady, My Mother.

My young chlidhood years have been hidden in the back of my mind for many years. All I know of that time in my life is what I've been told. From about the age of 11 through early teens I began
to notice boys and found out a little about flirting. Also discovered because I was thin but very well endowed I was pinched quite often to see if they were real. Those were the years of saddle shoes, poodle skirts, can cans and sock hop.Married at the age of 17. Changed into a wife and lover and 10 months later a mother. Was many things during my married years as we lived on ranches where work never quits and the cattle do not understand vacation or holidays. When my husband of 36 years passed I became a lady who did not know how to grieve so stayed away from home as much as possible because when I was there he was supposed to be there also. Turned into a caretaker while my Mother suffered with cancer. Now because of a couple of illnesses I change quite often. One thing I always try to remember is that I am a unique individual, no other like me exists. That is rather hard to grasp at times. The best thing for me is waking each day with a chat with my Creator and a smile to greet the day. LIFE IS GOOD