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Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
Hmmmmmmmm... hmmm shock uh oh

Swine Flu: Path to Martial Law?
By John Griffing

Could a form of martial law be imminent? Obama appears ready to cross the Rubicon, and all he needs is a killer virus.

Let’s connect some dots.

Remember President Obama’s Executive Order basing 80,000 active troops at home for the first time in the history of the peacetime military establishment to “help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack….”

Now connect that information to the recent announcement that the military has established regional deployment locations all across the United States to “assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.”

Civil unrest and crowd control? Significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall? What do they know that we don’t?

Swine flu has been made into a crisis in the minds of the public, even though swine flu, or H1N1, is the most non-lethal “killer” virus ever uncovered. As a cataclysmic event demanding military assistance, it ranks near zero. It is doubtful whether swine flu could even be classified as an “epidemic,” much less a “pandemic.”

Regular influenza, the common flu, kills 36,000 people every year. The 1918 flu pandemic killed an estimated 50-100 million people worldwide over a period of two years, approximately one-third the population of Europe at that time. Global swine flu deaths topped just 1,000 this year.

But President Obama is predicting death tolls of 90,000 and possible infection of up to half the US population.

While every life matters, in statistical terms swine flu is a comparatively minor problem, which makes the hype by those in government and the military all the more suspicious.

The National Guard is even practicing mock takeovers of public schools in the event of an “H1N1 riot,” a description that elicits mixed responses. What kind of riot could arise out of a flu that has only killed 1,000 worldwide? Washington certainly seems to be looking for some rationale for enhanced domestic military involvement, whether credible or not.

Martial law has essentially been on the table since President Obama took office, thanks to the Bush Administration’s dramatic revisions of the Posse Comitatus Act —which limited deployment of the US military at home—in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. With impeccable timing, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has gone before Congress asking for the unprecedented authority to base 400,000 soldiers in communities all across the United States.

A recent US Army War College Report even outlined the conditions under which martial law could be introduced, listing:

…unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency, pervasive public health emergencies, and catastrophic natural and human disasters are all paths to disruptive domestic shock. [Emphasis added.]
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
If you’re not already feeling nervous, revisit President Obama’s spine-chilling campaign pledge:

We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

With the Serve America Act, this alarming proposition has become reality. The broad authority given to this force is staggering. Section 1505 gives the newly created National Civilian Community Corps the power to address national “needs” related to “natural and other disasters,” “infrastructure improvement,” “environmental stewardship and conservation,” “energy conservation,” and “urban and rural development.” The legislation reiterates that the corps will “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service.”

Nowhere have these two spheres ever been combined that tyranny has not resulted.

If these recent events were mere coincidence, Americans could peacefully go about their business. But Obama is no ordinary President. This is the man who began his political career in the home of terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, former members of the notorious Weather Underground that plotted the deaths of 25 million Americans in "re-education camps."

Even so, it sounds crazy, doesn’t it? Mass internment and quarantine of Americans? Martial law used illegally to quell opposition to government policies? After all, this is America, not some banana republic.

But this is not the America of even 10 years ago. This is President Obama’s brave new America. Differences of opinion are criminalized, violating freedom of conscience in the deepest sense. Freedom of the press is assaulted with newspaper “bailouts” and diversity requirements imposed on local radio stations. Children face the possibility of weeklong, year-round education, effectively circumventing parents and making children wards of the state. Czars govern in the place of elected officials. Key private sector companies are now under the direct control of the President.

The President has even proven willing to use healthcare reform to target the elderly, recasting human life in terms of the collective good. The White House has even urged fellow citizens to inform on opponents of Obama’s healthcare bill. In this environment, the prospect of martial law doesn’t sound that far-fetched.

But isn’t this unconstitutional? No matter. The Constitution means nothing to President Obama, who has repeatedly implied the need to “break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution….”


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Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
The CDC is finalizing quarantine regulations formulated during the Bush years that provide for quarantining “a large group of persons” suspected of having swine flu or other illnesses listed in an executive order. This means that President Obama can quarantine anyone as long as they have an illness he determines to be dangerous. These new regulations even permit "provisional" quarantine of persons not actually carrying any virus. In one section, the regulations empower the president to quarantine anyone that does not agree to be vaccinated, an ominous condition since recent investigations have revealed that swine flu vaccines can cause serious medical complications. Thousands of doctors have voiced strong opposition to the proposed swine flu vaccine, due to its association with neurological disorders. No matter, a bill before the Massachusetts State Senate would permit authorities to enter homes and detain without warrant citizens who do not agree to be forcibly vaccinated. Iowa just released a new Orwellian quarantine policy directive that states in the event of a swine flu outbreak, “your home and other less restrictive alternatives are not acceptable.” These moves appear to be the result of federal incentives advancing mandatory vaccination.

The Army hasn’t missed a step, putting out ads for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists.” And, though most of the wild claims about “FEMA camps” have been appropriately and properly discredited, the fact remains that the Homeland Security Department has signed a $385 million contract with Halliburton subsidiary KBR Construction to build such facilities on an “as-needed” basis.
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
Ambrose2007: If you’re not already feeling nervous, revisit President Obama’s spine-chilling campaign pledge:

We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

With the Serve America Act, this alarming proposition has become reality. The broad authority given to this force is staggering. Section 1505 gives the newly created National Civilian Community Corps the power to address national “needs” related to “natural and other disasters,” “infrastructure improvement,” “environmental stewardship and conservation,” “energy conservation,” and “urban and rural development.” The legislation reiterates that the corps will “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service.”

Nowhere have these two spheres ever been combined that tyranny has not resulted.

If these recent events were mere coincidence, Americans could peacefully go about their business. But Obama is no ordinary President. This is the man who began his political career in the home of terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, former members of the notorious Weather Underground that plotted the deaths of 25 million Americans in "re-education camps."

Even so, it sounds crazy, doesn’t it? Mass internment and quarantine of Americans? Martial law used illegally to quell opposition to government policies? After all, this is America, not some banana republic.

But this is not the America of even 10 years ago. This is President Obama’s brave new America. Differences of opinion are criminalized, violating freedom of conscience in the deepest sense. Freedom of the press is assaulted with newspaper “bailouts” and diversity requirements imposed on local radio stations. Children face the possibility of weeklong, year-round education, effectively circumventing parents and making children wards of the state. Czars govern in the place of elected officials. Key private sector companies are now under the direct control of the President.

The President has even proven willing to use healthcare reform to target the elderly, recasting human life in terms of the collective good. The White House has even urged fellow citizens to inform on opponents of Obama’s healthcare bill. In this environment, the prospect of martial law doesn’t sound that far-fetched.

But isn’t this unconstitutional? No matter. The Constitution means nothing to President Obama, who has repeatedly implied the need to “break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution….”Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/swine_flu_path_to_martial_law.html at October 28, 2009 - 04:22:33 PM EDT
Surprising he doesn't call it "The New Revolutionary Guards"!uh oh
hopefloats Slim's Lady, Tennessee USA
uh oh uh oh stuck sick
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE Somewhere, California USA
super Time to make sure my travel papers are in order.
jvaski south lake tahoe, California USA
I think the OP should go seek professional help for his increased paranoia.......uh oh roll eyes
bettyboop63 glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK
its a pity they couldnt show as much concerning regarding the "hep c" epidemic..they caused when cutting corners with their blood products at least swine fklu can be cured...dunno
This is my easy response - N.W.O.
solitare Up river from Concepcion Paraguay
If you go back to the early years of the Bush regime, Rumsfeld stated his desire to implement a 'national security force, as well as an independent autonomous military force not under Pentagon jurisdiction but one modeled on the SS and the armed forces of the old Soviet Ministry of Interior forces just as the invasion of Afghanistan was launched; yeah, right...US forces modeled on the SS...that drunken slob really had delusions of grandeur.... Bush, if anyone recalls, brought out his own 'executive order' similar to the one quoted above in case of 'internal unrest' etc. Obama seems to have merely refined the previous one from Bush, just as he re-newed the Patriot Act, especially those provisions dealing with internal intelligence gathering (spying on US citizens, by all intelligence agencies, including ones once barred from all domestic activities). Nothing really original or new; merely extending what Bush brought in...Now, IF and when black uniforms are starting to be issued, then it may be time to worry, or hurry and join up as so many seem to crave the wearing of black uniforms with high boots similar to the SS. Black is also very chicklaugh
Perhaps a new straight arm salute will be then introduced also...rolling on the floor laughing
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
Conrad73: Surprising he doesn't call it "The New Revolutionary Guards"!


Along with the "Hitler Youth." doh
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
solitare: If you go back to the early years of the Bush regime, Rumsfeld stated his desire to implement a 'national security force, as well as an independent autonomous military force not under Pentagon jurisdiction but one modeled on the SS and the armed forces of the old Soviet Ministry of Interior forces just as the invasion of Afghanistan was launched; yeah, right...US forces modeled on the SS...that drunken slob really had delusions of grandeur.... Bush, if anyone recalls, brought out his own 'executive order' similar to the one quoted above in case of 'internal unrest' etc. Obama seems to have merely refined the previous one from Bush, just as he re-newed the Patriot Act, especially those provisions dealing with internal intelligence gathering (spying on US citizens, by all intelligence agencies, including ones once barred from all domestic activities). Nothing really original or new; merely extending what Bush brought in...Now, IF and when black uniforms are starting to be issued, then it may be time to worry, or hurry and join up as so many seem to crave the wearing of black uniforms with high boots similar to the SS. Black is also very chick
Perhaps a new straight arm salute will be then introduced also...


Right, well, I think it's a case of if Obama seems especially fascistic it's because he's building his fascism on the shoulders of power-loving "giants" (Bush and Co.). To paraphrase the Einstein quote.uh oh
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
jvaski: I think the OP should go seek professional help for his increased paranoia.......


I think the commentator should seek some books on history before exposing his ignorance. wink
Ambrose2007 Badger, South Dakota USA
jvaski: I think the OP should go seek professional help for his increased paranoia.......


Incidentally, what precisely was false in that essay's claims? Do you find anything at all alarming in anything listed?

What is the formal psychological classification for someone who lives with their heads stuck in the sand? (I'm thinking "Ostrich Syndrome"?)dunno roll eyes
Swine Flu's nothing... there's much worse buggies evolving in places around the world today. Far too many people everywhere exposed to everything, and it's far too easy for a sick person (not showing symptoms yet!) to get on a plane in 1 part of the world and fly for 12 hours to the other side of the planet probably infecting everybody else on the plane. Then they all debark carrying the illness with them and spreading it everywhere they go!

All it's going to take is 1 very easily spread disease that has a several day incubation period in which the infected have no symptoms but are contageous, and for that disease to then turn very deadly upon the occurrance of symptoms!

It's only a matter of time. Mega-Cities like New York would be massive death-traps... the denser the population, the faster the spread. Once that spreading begins in a major city then who's going to want to truck in supplies to said city? Services fall apart as people fear going to work, grocery stores rapidly become empty of product as nobody wants to truck in and stock the stores... the rest is inevitable.

On the other hand though, for the survivers life would eventually return to normal and be much better than it is now. After the Black Plague decimated Europe and Asia, killing almost 50% of the population, shortly thereafter you had the Reniassance! With fewer people, there were more resources available per person, diet's improved substantially as there was an abundance of food (in spite of less land being cultivated, the severely reduced human population still had an excessive amount of higher quality food than ever before), and people who could never have afforded to own land before were suddenly able to! For the survivers, life improved 10-fold! But look what it took to accomplish this, nearly 50% of the people had to be wiped out first... evidentally the human species cannot be taught I guess.

Keep on Octo-mom's of the world! See where that leads. uh oh

And if new deadly buggies don't do it to us 1st, there's also plate tectonics... consider what will happen when a chain of volcanoes all pop off at once, cooling the global climate by a few degrees for several years after. It's happened before, and the entire northern hemisphere had at least 1 year with no summer in America's Heartland... crops failed, everywhere across North American Europe and Asia, people starved to death en-mass. It can and will happen again, it's only a matter of time and there are FAR more people who want to eat now than in 1867 (I believe it was... known as "1867 and froze to death" as the saying became).

There are more human's alive today than have died throughout the history of our species. This is SO not a good thing! From a certain point of view we may become victims of our own success some day... and that some day could be quite soon. But nobody wants to consider that when they're busy having 7 or 8 kids in multiples due to fertility treatments and such. doh

- Michael cowboy
gingerb Letterkenny, Donegal Ireland
Ambrose2007: Hmmmmmmmm...

Swine Flu: Path to Martial Law?
By John Griffing

Could a form of martial law be imminent? Obama appears ready to cross the Rubicon, and all he needs is a killer virus.



Ambrose I have been reading this and can't believe you are repeating gossip and scaremongering. It is so not like you!

Any idiot with half a brain knows by now that swine flu is harmless except to those with underlying conditions that may have been undiagnosed. Chances of dying from it are one in a million! (literally, from figures worldwide).

Millions of people here and worldwide have had the vaccine as a precaution, to no ill effect, so what is the big deal? You'd think by all this hype that the vaccine was going to kill everyone, and sensible medical practitioners and scientists are planning mass genocide!

Time to lay off all these hypothetical, fantastical, fairy tale, scaremongering scenarios and start getting real. It would appear that your president is only reflecting the paranoia of his country's citizens. No wonder he thinks he needs martial law. Any sensible person, who was not paranoid and egocentric, would have jumped at the chance of being vaccinated long ago for the good of everyone. wine
ttom500 St. Cloud, Florida USA
I need some sites, Ambrose. Not that I don't trust your words. Just like read like this first or near first hand as possible. Specially a site on Gate asking to base 400,000 soldiers in communities. That would be 2 times the present deployment of both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Remember, we are stretched thin....were do the 400,000 come from? That is 40 divisions. Only 14 divisiona in the entire Army. 3 division in the Marine Corp. Maybe a typo? 40,000 I could see.

I remember then running Senator Obama saying he would increase the military by 65,000-80,000. But 400,000? No.

GWB had some regional military NBC centers constructed to aid in a terrorist NBC attack. But these only 6-8 in number and only be staffed by a several 100.

Ambrose, I realize the line at these H1N1 shot locations are hours long. But I don't see any violence breaking out at them. People are making it a like a concert line. Almost BBQing while they wait to be injected. One big conga line.....:-)

If there was violence....would not the local law enforcement cover the problem?
Laura25 Somewhere, New York USA
Ambrose2007: Hmmmmmmmm...

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Let’s connect some dots.

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sick sad flower
Laura25 Somewhere, New York USA
gingerb: Ambrose I have been reading this and can't believe you are repeating gossip and scaremongering. It is so not like you!

Any idiot with half a brain knows by now that swine flu is harmless except to those with underlying conditions that may have been undiagnosed. Chances of dying from it are one in a million! (literally, from figures worldwide).

Millions of people here and worldwide have had the vaccine as a precaution, to no ill effect, so what is the big deal? You'd think by all this hype that the vaccine was going to kill everyone, and sensible medical practitioners and scientists are planning mass genocide!

Time to lay off all these hypothetical, fantastical, fairy tale, scaremongering scenarios and start getting real. It would appear that your president is only reflecting the paranoia of his country's citizens. No wonder he thinks he needs martial law. Any sensible person, who was not paranoid and egocentric, would have jumped at the chance of being vaccinated long ago for the good of everyone.


My first impulse was to reply 'holy crapoli blah-blah... .... .... ..'

But out of respect to OP, I won't.

All I have to say:

stating "your government and FDA know what's best for you-the-herd" is THE heaviest n stinkiest load of crap I've seen around these forums in a very long time.
wonderworker cosby, Tennessee USA
I assume that Swine Flu is offered only as an example of a possible rationale for wading into the Rubicon of Martial Law---or would that be the Styx---.
The prospect of wholesale economic collapse strikes me as more probable and a helluva lot scarier.You can expect to recover from Flu.Not so with a worthless dollar.
Head -in-the-sand syndrome is simply Denial,or stupidity,or intellectual cowardice depending on how kind you want to be in denouncing a refusal to inform oneself.
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