Does Jerusalem remain an obstacle for peace in the world?

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rob4u777 Charlotte Amalie, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)
Isreal are leveling palestinian homes making it virtually impossible for them to get legal permits for new homes or extensions to existing ones. In effect Netanyahu called on the palestinians to accept total surrender. And that they have no rights beyond accepting the terms of their total defeat. Also to relinguish their own history, rights and aspirations.

The Zionist narrative is to promote the view that the historic land of Palestine is recognize as Israel and the West Bank-is the homeland of the Jewish people.
kanokwan Petchabun, Amphoe Bang Kapi Thailand
rob4u777: Isreal are leveling palestinian homes making it virtually impossible for them to get legal permits for new homes or extensions to existing ones. In effect Netanyahu called on the palestinians to accept total surrender. And that they have no rights beyond accepting the terms of their total defeat. Also to relinguish their own history, rights and aspirations.

The Zionist narrative is to promote the view that the historic land of Palestine is recognize as Israel and the West Bank-is the homeland of the Jewish people.
sawadee ka robforu777,what u expect from americas little 'golden child'?if u ask any israeli why...they will tell u 'this is gods promised land' to us...dont worry america,zionism has nearly taken over NEW YORK!thumbs up conversing
Conrad73 Lonesome Town Zurich, Zrich Switzerland
kanokwan: sawadee ka robforu777,what u expect from americas little 'golden child'?if u ask any israeli why...they will tell u 'this is gods promised land' to us...dont worry america,zionism has nearly taken over NEW YORK!
confused doh doh
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
kanokwan: sawadee ka robforu777,what u expect from americas little 'golden child'?if u ask any israeli why...they will tell u 'this is gods promised land' to us...dont worry america,zionism has nearly taken over NEW YORK!



It just happens to be true. Israel is God's Promised Land to the Jews. So don't worry about it. Your point here is to spread hate mongering ideology.

They have fought and died to be Jews and practice their religion without fear of being murdered for that. Since you are mad about them taking over New York, perhaps you would rather have them take over Thailand instead? Or would you rather have the Taliban, Al Queda, Hamas or Hezbollah? Then you might have something to really worthwhile to gripe about.grin
Konigsberg Jurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada
LILLYLADY: It just happens to be true. Israel is God's Promised Land to the Jews. So don't worry about it. Your point here is to spread hate mongering ideology.

They have fought and died to be Jews and practice their religion without fear of being murdered for that. Since you are mad about them taking over New York, perhaps you would rather have them take over Thailand instead? Or would you rather have the Taliban, Al Queda, Hamas or Hezbollah? Then you might have something to really worthwhile to gripe about.




jaw drop shock Really? And when IT promised them that land?


I think Konokwan has the point about New York and USA in particular.

Do you see the Numbers?

Metropolitan areas with the largest Jewish populations:


1.Gush Dan (Tel Aviv and surroundings) - Israel - 2,900,000.
2.New York - U.S. - 1,970,000.
3.Haifa - Israel - 800,000.
4.Los Angeles - U.S. - 621,000.
5.Jerusalem - Israel - 600,000.
6.Miami - U.S. - 514,000.
7.Paris - France - 410,000.
8.Philadelphia - U.S. - 276,000.
9.Chicago - U.S. - 261,000.
10.Boston - U.S. - 227,000.
11.San Francisco - U.S. - 210,000.
12.London - United Kingdom - 195,000.
13.Buenos Aires - Argentina - 175,000.
14.Toronto - Canada - 175,000.
15.Washington, D.C. - U.S. - 165,000.
16.Beer Sheva - Israel - 165,000.
17.Moscow - Russia - 108,000.
18.Baltimore - U.S. - 95,000.
19.Montreal - Canada - 95,000.
20.Detroit - U.S. - 94,000.

I consider your post to be very offencive not only to Konokwan but to all those Nations and cultures you've mention in it.

It has a smell of Racism. Very sad!conversing
costagirl Costa Calida, Murcia Spain
Konigsberg: Really? And when IT promised them that land?I think Konokwan has the point about New York and USA in particular.

Do you see the Numbers?

Metropolitan areas with the largest Jewish populations:1.Gush Dan (Tel Aviv and surroundings) - Israel - 2,900,000.
2.New York - U.S. - 1,970,000.
3.Haifa - Israel - 800,000.
4.Los Angeles - U.S. - 621,000.
5.Jerusalem - Israel - 600,000.
6.Miami - U.S. - 514,000.
7.Paris - France - 410,000.
8.Philadelphia - U.S. - 276,000.
9.Chicago - U.S. - 261,000.
10.Boston - U.S. - 227,000.
11.San Francisco - U.S. - 210,000.
12.London - United Kingdom - 195,000.
13.Buenos Aires - Argentina - 175,000.
14.Toronto - Canada - 175,000.
15.Washington, D.C. - U.S. - 165,000.
16.Beer Sheva - Israel - 165,000.
17.Moscow - Russia - 108,000.
18.Baltimore - U.S. - 95,000.
19.Montreal - Canada - 95,000.
20.Detroit - U.S. - 94,000.

I consider your post to be very offencive not only to Konokwan but to all those Nations and cultures you've mention in it.

It has a smell of Racism. Very sad!


would % of population per city not be more appropriate that mere numbers.?
Konigsberg Jurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada
costagirl: would % of population per city not be more appropriate that mere numbers.?


It might be but that what I found in Wikipedia on this subject and I really don't have time to do research in %. What's wrong with Numbers? I understand they may vary because people have tendency to die or to be born or to move to another country etc. Still communities and stays. Don't you agree?

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costagirl Costa Calida, Murcia Spain
Konigsberg: It might be but that what I found in Wikipedia on this subject and I really don't have time to do research in %. What's wrong with Numbers? I understand they may vary because people have tendency to die or to be born or to move to another country etc. Still communities and stays. Don't you agree?
costagirl Costa Calida, Murcia Spain
not really, if there are 10 million in a city or only 500,000 in the city, the figures would make a great differance
wonderworker cosby, Tennessee USA
This subject was broached just a few weeks ago in my thread "For Palestine"
After 500 hits of mostly hatred and bombast and superstition that thread mercifully died.
Why am I not surprised to see it back so soon?
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solitare Up river from Concepcion Paraguay
Does Jerusalem remain an obstacle for peace in the world?
Category: Current Events & Politics
Does Jerusalem remain an obstacle for peace in the world?


Find some archeology sites , links etc. of what is and still may be under the Temple Mount...that, may provide some answers linked to the historic claims and counter claims and bitter fighting to control Jerusalem...it goes way, way back. "Food for thought" me thinks...good hunting!
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
Konigsberg: Really? And when IT promised them that land?I think Konokwan has the point about New York and USA in particular.

Do you see the Numbers?

Metropolitan areas with the largest Jewish populations:1.Gush Dan (Tel Aviv and surroundings) - Israel - 2,900,000.
2.New York - U.S. - 1,970,000.
3.Haifa - Israel - 800,000.
4.Los Angeles - U.S. - 621,000.
5.Jerusalem - Israel - 600,000.
6.Miami - U.S. - 514,000.
7.Paris - France - 410,000.
8.Philadelphia - U.S. - 276,000.
9.Chicago - U.S. - 261,000.
10.Boston - U.S. - 227,000.
11.San Francisco - U.S. - 210,000.
12.London - United Kingdom - 195,000.
13.Buenos Aires - Argentina - 175,000.
14.Toronto - Canada - 175,000.
15.Washington, D.C. - U.S. - 165,000.
16.Beer Sheva - Israel - 165,000.
17.Moscow - Russia - 108,000.
18.Baltimore - U.S. - 95,000.
19.Montreal - Canada - 95,000.
20.Detroit - U.S. - 94,000.

I consider your post to be very offencive not only to Konokwan but to all those Nations and cultures you've mention in it.

It has a smell of Racism. Very sad!


I found Konokwan's posting to be smelling extremely racist. But I suppose you don't think so. It seems when I post something and "turn the tide" so to speak, you don't like it when I give someone back a dose of their own medicine. You get the point now perhaps?very mad

All the nations you say I listed? Only the nation of Thailand was listed. Unless you call the Taliban, Hezbollah, AlQueda, Hamas nations rather than the political organizations that they are? I don't think so!!

When Jews come to New York or Israel to live, there is a darn good reason. Read on to the next page.......
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
(IsraelNN.com)Nov 1, 09 The United States State Department has smuggled 60 Jews out of Yemen in recent months due to fear for their lives, reports the Wall Street Journal. Another 100 of Yemen's Jews may follow.

The resettlement project began in July, following several attacks on Jews in Yemen, including the murder of Jewish community leader Moshe Yaish al-Nahari.

Several of the recent arrivals from Yemen to the U.S. described growing anti-Semitism and fear of attack prior to their departure. “They throw stones at us. They curse us. They want to kill us,” said Salem Suleiman of his former Muslim neighbors. Another recent arrival from Yemen, Shaker Yakub, described how he and his family dressed as Muslims in order to escape Yemen without problems.


The new arrivals from Yemen are being assisted in America by several Jewish organizations. Most have been resettled in the town of Monsey, a primarily hareidi-religious community in New York.

Jews have lived in Yemen for more than 2,000 years. In 1949 most of Yemen's Jews were brought to Israel in “Operation Magic Carpet” following a wave of anti-Semitic violence and slayings in wake of the establishment of the State of Israel. The hundreds of Jews who remained in Yemen until recent years faced renewed threats of violence in 2007. Threats of violence forced Jews to congregate in the city of Raida, where they soon faced attack yet again.

The growing violence led to reports over the summer that Jewish life in Yemen would soon come to an end, with almost all of the country's Jews moving to either the United States or Israel.
LILLYLADY 10 Sneeze Town, Ohio USA
Most of the Jewish immigrants that came to the United States near the turn of the 20th century and the early part of the 20th century, left Europe and Russia due to being slaughtered with the pogroms and forcibly expelled out of countries. Most came with very little money and posessions and worked very hard to establish themselves in a new country. Many Jewish landschaftens groups helped their fellow countrymen in the U.S. with loans and help to assimilate them. Much like other nationalities helped each other when they came to the U.S.

So the negative posting of Zionists in New York is very racist indeed, considering the poster obviously did not even consider that the people immigrated to the U.S. to escape certain annihilation in their homeland. New York happens to be the location of Ellis Island and Castle Garden, which processed many varying nationalities of immigrants.

My hometown in New York happens to be full of decendants of many nationalities of people. I personally grew up in a multiracial and multinational neighborhood. But my ethnic heritage was the minority, almost everyone was Sicilian old country Catholic but my school was mulitcultural and predominantly Catholic and Christian. I was the minority again religiouswise.

And yes...I am a native New Yorker from Westchester County too and darn proud of it. My ancestors moved to this county from Russia, Poland and Lithuania. But the other relatives that didn't make it....murdered in the pogroms of Russia.

So if anyone has a problem with Zionists in New York......tough!! very mad
BebeII Concordville, Pennsylvania USA
kanokwan: sawadee ka robforu777,what u expect from americas little 'golden child'?if u ask any israeli why...they will tell u 'this is gods promised land' to us...dont worry america,zionism has nearly taken over NEW YORK!
tinfoil hat pointing
BebeII Concordville, Pennsylvania USA
wonderworker: This subject was broached just a few weeks ago in my thread "For Palestine"
After 500 hits of mostly hatred and bombast and superstition that thread mercifully died.
Why am I not surprised to see it back so soon?
Oh yes, and of course the hatred, bombast and superstition is only on OTHER PEOPLE'S heads, now isn't that right?roll eyes
BebeII Concordville, Pennsylvania USA
Konigsberg: Really? And when IT promised them that land?I think Konokwan has the point about New York and USA in particular.

Do you see the Numbers?

Metropolitan areas with the largest Jewish populations:1.Gush Dan (Tel Aviv and surroundings) - Israel - 2,900,000.
2.New York - U.S. - 1,970,000.
3.Haifa - Israel - 800,000.
4.Los Angeles - U.S. - 621,000.
5.Jerusalem - Israel - 600,000.
6.Miami - U.S. - 514,000.
7.Paris - France - 410,000.
8.Philadelphia - U.S. - 276,000.
9.Chicago - U.S. - 261,000.
10.Boston - U.S. - 227,000.
11.San Francisco - U.S. - 210,000.
12.London - United Kingdom - 195,000.
13.Buenos Aires - Argentina - 175,000.
14.Toronto - Canada - 175,000.
15.Washington, D.C. - U.S. - 165,000.
16.Beer Sheva - Israel - 165,000.
17.Moscow - Russia - 108,000.
18.Baltimore - U.S. - 95,000.
19.Montreal - Canada - 95,000.
20.Detroit - U.S. - 94,000.

I consider your post to be very offencive not only to Konokwan but to all those Nations and cultures you've mention in it.

It has a smell of Racism. Very sad!
Yes, we know the numbers-after all, WE LIVE HERE. Jews make up a small percentage of the U.S. population-5 1/2 million out of 300+ mil.
kanokwan Petchabun, Amphoe Bang Kapi Thailand
LILLYLADY: It just happens to be true. Israel is God's Promised Land to the Jews. So don't worry about it. Your point here is to spread hate mongering ideology.

They have fought and died to be Jews and practice their religion without fear of being murdered for that. Since you are mad about them taking over New York, perhaps you would rather have them take over Thailand instead? Or would you rather have the Taliban, Al Queda, Hamas or Hezbollah? Then you might have something to really worthwhile to gripe about.
sawadee ka LILLYLADY,what makes Israels govt any better than those terrorist groups u mentioned?your leader Netanyahu is a known murderer of innocent palestinians every day!...Did the jews ever have their own country before taking Palestine & naming it Israel???...I think NOT!How can the palestine people get their OWN country back?do they ask god for it?also u are the person with pro mongering jewish ideology...i only a normal thai girl,I beleive what most of the world SEES today & everyday!conversing cool



pastortim Aland, Aland Islands Finland
rob4u777: Isreal are leveling palestinian homes making it virtually impossible for them to get legal permits for new homes or extensions to existing ones. In effect Netanyahu called on the palestinians to accept total surrender. And that they have no rights beyond accepting the terms of their total defeat. Also to relinguish their own history, rights and aspirations.

The Zionist narrative is to promote the view that the historic land of Palestine is recognize as Israel and the West Bank-is the homeland of the Jewish people.


Well, it is a sticky situation. First, the ones in office in Israel are not Christian and they are waging a blood slaughter on the innocent people (genocide) for which they call is based on their national security and safety of Israel. Now, sure Israel is being pounded by missiles from a terrorist group, but going in and just nuking Palestine with bombs, tanks, and wiping out the innocent people who had nothing to do with it is a crime itself.
Those that are Christian like to think that Israel is a Christian Nation, but it is not. The only thing that remains Christian there is the Christian Monuments and the Church which is among the many other different Churches of many religions.

As for Palestine, it was once noted they wanted to take over Israel as they claim it is there home. So what is the problem with them living in Israel with everyone else like the melting pot it is already? For some strange reason, it has turned into a war zone and the terrorist groups who don't like Israel who don't live there are going into Palestine and launching missiles into Israel and creating more pain and suffering for the Palestine people. So we should be giving the Palestine people more guns and open the walls up so they can get into Israel to help defend Israel from the terrorists (Hamas being one of terrorists). But the leaders of Israel are not smart enough so they choose to just kill everyone and let God sort them out.

That is Israel today, a sad and twisted place with 40 foot cement walls around it like a prison.
kanokwan Petchabun, Amphoe Bang Kapi Thailand
In response to: Isreal are leveling palestinian homes making it virtually impossible for them to get legal permits for new homes or extensions to existing ones. In effect Netanyahu called on the palestinians to accept total surrender. And that they have no rights beyond accepting the terms of their total defeat. Also to relinguish their own history, rights and aspirations.

The Zionist narrative is to promote the view that the historic land of Palestine is recognize as Israel and the West Bank-is the homeland of the Jewish people.
sawadee ka,it is disgrace what happening in Palestine...oops known as israel today,Netanyahu is modern day 'hitler'& nothing in his way will stop him from genocide...palestinian ppl are caged in like animals,up to israel how much food,medicine etc goes thru but it is obvious they want to exterminate them gradually...shame but the world has 'eyes'....as for zionist narrative,New York to become Israel 2 one day?? conversing




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