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Yes that to me means you have gotten about as dry as you can get,

Right about 5:15pm Mon-Thurs. After a 10 hour day, I'm ready to punch out and go home

Yeps...and thank God for numbness: it's a natural *survival* instinct

Probably alot of people on this very day just because of what it stands for...

Yeah, I felt totally numb when my husband of 25 years walked out the door. I walked around like that for months. Now, I've been able to move on. I'm able to enjoy life again. Good times are good and great times are great. I try not to dwell on the not so good times.

It's all about the living and learning. Sometimes it takes a while to heal. I am very glad to hear such a positive response..

Best wishes..I know you have hope! Happy V-Day!

Can calmness be misinterpreted as numbness? To not have extremes of emotions, but almost a zen like feeling about things? Is that a survival skill, or a more disciplined mind, to not be overly re-active emotionally, to stimuli, either negative or positve?

I find the extremes of emotions in people interesting, and yet, rarely experience it myself. I am not detached from my emotions, more a side by side relationship with them though....where some leap for joy and sceam and shout, I may laugh and smile. Where an emergenct arises, am calm and collected. Where a death occurs, I am sad but not outwardly expressive of these emotions...and no, have NEVER been on any mood altering, or suppressive medications.

Do you think it's possible that post traumatic stress disorder, and the recovery of it can contribute to this?

I am curious for your interpretation, as I have read a fair bit on the subject of emotions, past traumas, Zen philosophies, and re-active behaviours...and another's view is always appreciated.

Yes post traumatic stress leads to numbness or a dullness of one's feelings...It's an attempt by the mind to turn off or dull the pain...BUT unfortunately one feeling dulled or numbed leads to them all...Identification of triggers and ability to see them for what they are...not the original trauma....helps!!!!!!!

there is silence in sensation...zen....... while the hum of life moves through us without sound...

numbness is a dulling.

This I am able to still do to this day at any given moment.

It's not good to stay in. Because nature has it's way and you WILL feel. If your not willing, or ready it can tear you up.


I learned to go away along time ago...
Now? I isolate, and feel. It's different.

Sometimes when the body has had too much, ti can shut down to protect you causing numbness as well...

thanks you=o)

I would say that is experience at work!..

I hear you Nene,

and perhaps I was not very clear with examples of day to day stressors or triggers, of emotions and differing reactions.

Ok an example....the alarm clock doesn't go off, and you and the kids are late for work and school....two choices...react, and let the blood pressure rise or take a different view...to react....run through the house at a million miles an hour waking kids, organising school uniforms, trying to make coffee, slipping on make do clothes for work, tring to hustle everyone to the car while they are still brushing their teeth, and are having drive-by breakfast anyway....

so drive, drive, drive, through crazy weather, and heavy morning traffic, ever glancing at your watch, a fast pull in to the drive-by...then relief!!! An almost perfect 'Dukes of Hazard' slide into your work car space, when a small voice pipes up from the back...."Err, Mum...." So back out, drive the forgotten one to their school, get more fuel and another coffee, then back through morning traffic to your car space..what would it take to snap at this point?

And I mean of the general masses, not someone in particular? Normal stressors? Decisions contributing to the reactions?

The other zen train of thought, and behaviours....we are late this morning...oh well I will be late. Calmly put on coffee, get dressed, awaken children, ring work to tell them you will be late, enjoy a calm breakfast with the children, miss most of the crazy early morning traffic...drop kids off to school, and then proceed to work, smiling and relaxed, although an hour late....

Who will be more productive that day at work? I wonder? Who will be re-active to anymore stressors and who wont?

Is what I mean about zen....to see the emotions and not accept the extremes nor the negative that will do me harm, both mentally and physically... I hope I make sense....

ooooh!

okay, I see what you mean.

At this point in time, I don't think my mind, or body could take that anymore, lol. And, finding simpler ways has freed up all that packed in, jumbled stuff that just isn't healthy.

I think it depends alot on moods, habits...

When I was younger I loved it! Was sort of a rush as opposed to stress. As I took on more and more... then, it became stress than was seeping into the rest of things, and before you know it you're enjoying nothing.

For me, it has been a choice of what I have to have in my life, and where I could let go of things. What's become really important, and what can be discarded...

I have come along way in accepting emotions that hit me, and allowing them to come. Each one is there to feel and experience. Negative and positive. Light and dark...

I am in no way expert at any given time, lol.

I suspect we are similar in how we manage our lives and our experiences...and with the negative emotions, eg; envy, anger, fear,etc.....I find myself asking myself why this has come up in me, and to work through whatever it is...with an acceptance of my emotions, and also external influences which I cannot control...then letting it go...releasing it as unwanted and unnecessary for my well-being and growth...


To not even judge oneself, let alone others, and to work with the light, and not embrace the dark.....

yes.

though, I actually walk with both darkness and light. I have to, for my balance. It isn't for everyone, lol.

But, the rest, yes.

Goin the weird route here, so hang on, heh... I get some negative energies now and then that demand attention. Not all are harmful, but may be stuck in a cycle... some are just black energies that it takes alot to dispell... Im sort of like a magnet. Sarah, too.
so, yeah, I deal with some out of ordinary things.
But, the balance thing is still the same idea. There are time I must embrace the dark to neutralize the energy and begin new...

thnat make sense?

Completely....


And so, with all this conversation, and thankyou, Nene, and Lionhearted...and nativegirl, I will say calm, over numb.....

me i'm manic as all hell.no zen here.

lol

you have calm moments,jackie.

or, just dead tired, eh?

your welcome=o)

dead tired and god bless klonopin !!