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Tragedy...




Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 7:09 AM CST
Now I'm real serious (as always).
Before I asked if it was OK to date a woman who was much older. I got a lot of possitive feedback and thank you for that.
It turned out a little different then I expected. No sex, which is OK with me. She explained that she had been raped many times.
She became involved with a psychologist, recommended by her physician!!!
It turned out he raped a lot of women, telling them it was a part of the "healing process". Don't worry, the mofo died some time ago, otherwise he'd have a BIG problem with me.
Now she has a big problem with trusting people (surprise?).
Yesterday she took some pictures of me and boy we had so much fun! She told me she didn't have so much fun in 22 years.
Although I'm 49 and she's 70, I feel I'm the adult, and she agrees...
I want to help her healing. Yesterday I wanted to sleep with her, at her house (NO, just sleep), she agreed. So we just cuddled, kissed and held each other. Then we went to sleep.
Maybe not for everyone to understand, but I really want to help her. She is my best friend I had in a long time. How far can you or should I go?
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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 7:21 AM CST
its sad to hear what happened to your friend but these do. She is a lucky woman to have a man who understand her situation.

As i told you before age knows no boundries so you can go as far as both of you feel casy with. Let her tell you how she feels when you take each step to being closer.

i wish you both health and happinesswave
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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 7:22 AM CST
i am sorry that word is cosy not casy ok blushing
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:03 AM CST
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its sad to hear what happened to your friend but these do. She is a lucky woman to have a man who understand her situation.

As i told you before age knows no boundries so you can go as far as both of you feel casy with. Let her tell you how she feels when you take each step to being closer.

i wish you both health and happiness
Thank you! I've never gone further then any woman told me to go. No matter how h*** I was, I always think the woman is in "command".
Matter of fact: I do not understand men who seem to get pleasure of taking or raping a woman. I'd be glad to shoot anyone of them (and I'am a sniper and marksman, army national Guard, Dutch Commando's)
Enough, I think it will stay as friends anyway, but I do hope she will regain trust in men. Not all of us are so bad.
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AKDOPhd
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:20 AM CST
i think it's horrible that you play with her emotions after all she has been thru while you are persuing this russian hottie on the side .....unless of course you have shared with her your internet search and it's promises....


she has made herself clear ,obviously shared painful experiences with you,and so with that closeness you make it difficult for her to say no to you, but she doesn't want you in her bed, (but you are trying to help her)...!!!! and at the same time maybe something awakens and she hesitates and wonders...and then you run off to russia or wherever.....but come home to her because she is your best friend after all.....it's not about the sex...it's about the emotional vulnerability....that's more difficult to control.
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lvslife
moore USA
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:34 AM CST
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Now I'm real serious (as always).
Before I asked if it was OK to date a woman who was much older. I got a lot of possitive feedback and thank you for that.
It turned out a little different then I expected. No sex, which is OK with me. She explained that she had been raped many times.
She became involved with a psychologist, recommended by her physician!!!
It turned out he raped a lot of women, telling them it was a part of the "healing process". Don't worry, the mofo died some time ago, otherwise he'd have a BIG problem with me.
Now she has a big problem with trusting people (surprise?).
Yesterday she took some pictures of me and boy we had so much fun! She told me she didn't have so much fun in 22 years.
Although I'm 49 and she's 70, I feel I'm the adult, and she agrees...
I want to help her healing. Yesterday I wanted to sleep with her, at her house (NO, just sleep), she agreed. So we just cuddled, kissed and held each other. Then we went to sleep.
Maybe not for everyone to understand, but I really want to help her. She is my best friend I had in a long time. How far can you or should I go?
As long as there are no underlying reasons that a man your age would be attracted to a woman of her age. I can see nothing wrong with you being friends or having a relationship, friend or otherwise.
Now as far as a sexual thing happening. I am quite sure that is a horse of another color. At her age and depending on how long it has been for her, it may not be worth even trying.
I know a woman of her age can have sex, my mom does. My mom is 70 and has a boyfriend. Seems I am the old woman here.lol.Back to my point. I was getting at the how long it may have been for her since she has had sex. If it has been a long time.........may be a horrible experience for her. Was for me and I am not that old.
It is refreshing to hear a story such as yours. You may have added years on her life. Or maybe just a happiness, a joy, peace if you will. That will make her last years so worth living. This is a lucky woman, and I am sure she already knows that.
And you. If you stay close to this woman, will have a new and refreshing life experience to carry with you from now on.
Good luck to you and please don't just disappear from this womans life now, not at her age.
Katwine
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jasflint
collins, Georgia USA
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:42 AM CST
In response to:
Now I'm real serious (as always).
Before I asked if it was OK to date a woman who was much older. I got a lot of possitive feedback and thank you for that.
It turned out a little different then I expected. No sex, which is OK with me. She explained that she had been raped many times.
She became involved with a psychologist, recommended by her physician!!!
It turned out he raped a lot of women, telling them it was a part of the "healing process". Don't worry, the mofo died some time ago, otherwise he'd have a BIG problem with me.
Now she has a big problem with trusting people (surprise?).
Yesterday she took some pictures of me and boy we had so much fun! She told me she didn't have so much fun in 22 years.
Although I'm 49 and she's 70, I feel I'm the adult, and she agrees...
I want to help her healing. Yesterday I wanted to sleep with her, at her house (NO, just sleep), she agreed. So we just cuddled, kissed and held each other. Then we went to sleep.
Maybe not for everyone to understand, but I really want to help her. She is my best friend I had in a long time. How far can you or should I go?
go with your heart...I could tell astory aboutan 80??/ year old woman ...I won't because it is personal and stuff...I reckon as long as ya got a breath and a heart,,,ya can have love.
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lvslife
moore USA
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:42 AM CST
Whoa!! What the hell!? I just read your other thread. Listen to me. If you are going to be friends with this woman, then you damn well keep it that way. She won't be hurt this way. Fact is, she probably would rather be friends anyway.
Don't you be playing this lady........please!
If you want to help her, then you be honest and tell her you are her friend and that you have outside interest. As long as she knows, I am sure it will be fine. At this stage of her life, a true friend is really important here.
KatD'oh!
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mastic55
Long Island, New York USA
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 9:48 AM CST
Sounds like your doing the right thing already.
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AKDOPhd
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 10:18 AM CST
playing both ends from the middle??wow!
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DangerouslySweet
Northwestern, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 22, 2006, 10:55 AM CST
The only tragedy here is that both of these women somehow met up with you!!!!!!!! frustrated

You're the adult??? My 19 and 21 year old sons are less hormonally challenged than you!!!!! Grow up and start thinking with your other brain........if you have one!!!! very mad
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 23, 2006, 6:51 AM CST
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playing both ends from the middle??
How typical Dutch can you get?
When in danger or in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shout...dancing banana
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 23, 2006, 6:52 AM CST
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The only tragedy here is that both of these women somehow met up with you!!!!!!!!

You're the adult??? My 19 and 21 year old sons are less hormonally challenged than you!!!!! Grow up and start thinking with your other brain........if you have one!!!!
Maybe THEY are the ones who need some Viagra? Or did you already castrated them?
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photofreek
soda springs USA
Posted: Oct 23, 2006, 6:59 AM CST
Just be her friend and if she wants more then she will let you know. Don't push the sex issueD'oh!
Be there for her and just help her as a TRUE friend can.peace
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nwnstar
Conway USA
Posted: Oct 23, 2006, 10:05 AM CST
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Just be her friend and if she wants more then she will let you know. Don't push the sex issue
Be there for her and just help her as a TRUE friend can.
the best way he could be her friend...would be to get the hell out of her life, and to allow her to think she might have met a nice man...before time removes any chance of this thought occurring.
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DangerouslySweet
Northwestern, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 23, 2006, 10:17 AM CST
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Maybe THEY are the ones who need some Viagra? Or did you already castrated them?
You are a very sick man to insinuate that my sons need castrating. And your previous statement about Karma is very true.......but remember it applies to you also.

In the famous words of Waverider......

Don't thank me for pointing out what an anal orifice you are........it is my pleasure. grin

And nwnstar........I only wish that people like you could post a list of 'men' (and I use that term for him very loosely) like him for all to see what kind of sickos they really are. handshake
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 24, 2006, 4:26 AM CST
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the best way he could be her friend...would be to get the hell out of her life, and to allow her to think she might have met a nice man...before time removes any chance of this thought occurring.
I think you mean well. Nothing wrong with that. But understand: she came to me and a while ago told me she DID want to have sex with me, but she thought I was to big, grand or how do you say it. Frankly I don't think so. But I have deep respect for everything that breathes. Unlike some morons on this site, I think you might understand a little better; having sex is not #1 on my priority list.
Mutual understanding and friendship are much more interesting.
I have a friend (male) for 45 years. We never even had as much as real debate, let alone a fight. His girlfriend I've known for 15 years and she always calls me sweetheart or darling. Just because I'm so bad?
Maybe I don't express myself so great, but English is my second of 4 languages. So sometimes things get "lost in translation" I think.
Anyway, the lady told me I made her feel alive and made her laugh again. So what's wrong with that? The whole sex issue is already dropped by both of us, because I already got pretty deep involved with a woman from Latvia. But that's another thread.
Just to ease your mind: I'll never hurt anyone intentionally. If anything I will step up and protect her from anyone.
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 24, 2006, 4:35 AM CST
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You are a very sick man to insinuate that my sons need castrating. And your previous statement about Karma is very true.......but remember it applies to you also.

In the famous words of Waverider......

Don't thank me for pointing out what an anal orifice you are........it is my pleasure.

And nwnstar........I only wish that people like you could post a list of 'men' (and I use that term for him very loosely) like him for all to see what kind of sickos they really are.
If you remember: you suggested I needed to be castrated and had more hormones then your youngsters. Maybe true, I'm not a necrophiliac. Then again: I feel you can't read at all.
I didn't SUGGEST your sons needed castrating, I was just wondering if you did it, since they seem to lack "sexual ambition". Quite a bit different.
I just remember when I was wearing a younger man's clothes, I had 3 girlfriends in different towns... Oops, now comes the reaction.
But that was the only time in my life, I had more then one woman at a time.wine
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DangerouslySweet
Northwestern, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 24, 2006, 5:15 AM CST
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If you remember: you suggested I needed to be castrated and had more hormones then your youngsters. Maybe true, I'm not a necrophiliac. Then again: I feel you can't read at all.
I didn't SUGGEST your sons needed castrating, I was just wondering if you did it, since they seem to lack "sexual ambition". Quite a bit different.
I just remember when I was wearing a younger man's clothes, I had 3 girlfriends in different towns... Oops, now comes the reaction.
But that was the only time in my life, I had more then one woman at a time.
barfing Move along little boy......I've wasted enough type on you.
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Dreamkeeper
Leeuwarden, Friesland Netherlands
Posted: Oct 24, 2006, 6:08 AM CST
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Move along little boy......I've wasted enough type on you.
I'd like to meet the man who f*****d you up....
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