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Taking Responsibility




battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 5:33 AM CST
I meet more and more people here and in "real life" as the days, months, years...pass, and I often see people blaming everyone else for their problems rather than taking responsibility for their own actions. Why is it so hard for some to admit a mistake or admit that THEY might not have made such a wise choice in something they did/do? Is this something we learn as we age and grow or is this something that is supposed to be there from birth? Parenting? Or just lessons learned?

I personally take full responsibility for my actions and don't play the blame game. If they are to blame, then sure, I land it on the other, if not, then I do admit it was me for whatever reason. I may not always like the end result, but isn't that part of the growing process in life?

Have any of you that are honest and take on responsibility for your actions, had to deal with someone that is just to blind, selfish, self-absorbed, in denial..yaddah yaddah....to see what they themselves created and have blamed YOU for THEIR doings? How did/do you handle that?
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SirenLydia
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 5:35 AM CST
I divorced him!

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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 5:44 AM CST
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I divorced him!

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Good for you sweety!
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gentlepaws
Any town, Ontario Canada
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 5:51 AM CST
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I meet more and more people here and in "real life" as the days, months, years...pass, and I often see people blaming everyone else for their problems rather than taking responsibility for their own actions. Why is it so hard for some to admit a mistake or admit that THEY might not have made such a wise choice in something they did/do? Is this something we learn as we age and grow or is this something that is supposed to be there from birth? Parenting? Or just lessons learned?

I personally take full responsibility for my actions and don't play the blame game. If they are to blame, then sure, I land it on the other, if not, then I do admit it was me for whatever reason. I may not always like the end result, but isn't that part of the growing process in life?

Have any of you that are honest and take on responsibility for your actions, had to deal with someone that is just to blind, selfish, self-absorbed, in denial..yaddah yaddah....to see what they themselves created and have blamed YOU for THEIR doings? How did/do you handle that?
There's nothing you can do. My ex., was like that. She never made a mistake in her life, according to her. She came from an alcoholic background, and that is a symptom, self protection at all costs. Paws
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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 5:58 AM CST
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There's nothing you can do. My ex., was like that. She never made a mistake in her life, according to her. She came from an alcoholic background, and that is a symptom, self protection at all costs. Paws
Do you really believe it's self protection?
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gentlepaws
Any town, Ontario Canada
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:01 AM CST
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Do you really believe it's self protection?
For the most part, yes. Paws
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Funnybone
Pomerene, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:02 AM CST
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There's nothing you can do. My ex., was like that. She never made a mistake in her life, according to her. She came from an alcoholic background, and that is a symptom, self protection at all costs. Paws
alcoholic background, and that is a symptom, self protection at all costs. Paws

Sometimes the symptom is the cure. As an alcoholic I have many supportive friends
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Funnybone
Pomerene, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:08 AM CST
Being sober devides, separates, unconfirms, and denotes. Drunkiness unites, confirms, networks, and strives. Smiling cheers
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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:12 AM CST
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alcoholic background, and that is a symptom, self protection at all costs. Paws

Sometimes the symptom is the cure. As an alcoholic I have many supportive friends
But you now admit you are an alcoholic, even if you do nothing about it, you are taking responsibility, admitting your actions.

This wasn't something you just always knew and admitted to, so how or what made you realize? Was there an event or just an awakening one day? What made you finally take responsibility?
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nuala
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:33 AM CST
i agree with what you have written. We are all responsible for our actions. But others are in denial that they didnt do anything wrong. So it snowballs from there. It wasnt their fault so they dont say sorry and it goes on and on....


just thought i would share that with you wave
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Funnybone
Pomerene, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 6:37 AM CST
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But you now admit you are an alcoholic, even if you do nothing about it, you are taking responsibility, admitting your actions.

This wasn't something you just always knew and admitted to, so how or what made you realize? Was there an event or just an awakening one day? What made you finally take responsibility?
"But you now admit you are an alcoholic?" From time to time cheers
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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 7:03 AM CST
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"But you now admit you are an alcoholic?" From time to time
Still didn't answer the question though??

dunno confused
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highplains
Highland Springs, Virginia USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 7:41 AM CST
It's all Lauries' fault....
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wikked
Ajax, Ontario Canada
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 7:45 AM CST
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It's all Lauries' fault....
Morning Burt...I'll take full responsibility for you!!wink kiss
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texasterror
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 8:47 AM CST
Just read through a bunch of these forums and you will see that there are a lot of folks out there that like to play the blame game, along with every other mind game. I say, "You do it, you own it". Just see them for what they are, looking down of course. If they can't be honest with themselves, you sure can't expect them to be honest with you.
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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 11:52 AM CST
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Just read through a bunch of these forums and you will see that there are a lot of folks out there that like to play the blame game, along with every other mind game. I say, "You do it, you own it". Just see them for what they are, looking down of course. If they can't be honest with themselves, you sure can't expect them to be honest with you.
Well said, thank you for your input!
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jeanc200658
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 12:03 PM CST
I completely agree with this, and it's not mentioned here, but I disagree, to a large extent, with what many people seem to do, and that's have a "blame the victim" mentality. Now, in situations where, say, a woman is being abused and she stays in it and keeps inventing excuses why she can't get out? Hmm...I'd have to question that.

But in a situation where you are a victim of someone else's wrongdoing, whether or not you, in some form or fashion, may have "contributed" to it, I still say the overwhelming majority of the blame and accountability lies with the offender, not the victim. To say that a victim is somehow responsible for the offending actions of another is to, at least in part, defend those actions. And that's just incomprehensible, to me.
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soulmateTWS
somewhere, Alabama USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 12:23 PM CST
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I meet more and more people here and in "real life" as the days, months, years...pass, and I often see people blaming everyone else for their problems rather than taking responsibility for their own actions. Why is it so hard for some to admit a mistake or admit that THEY might not have made such a wise choice in something they did/do? Is this something we learn as we age and grow or is this something that is supposed to be there from birth? Parenting? Or just lessons learned?

I personally take full responsibility for my actions and don't play the blame game. If they are to blame, then sure, I land it on the other, if not, then I do admit it was me for whatever reason. I may not always like the end result, but isn't that part of the growing process in life?

Have any of you that are honest and take on responsibility for your actions, had to deal with someone that is just to blind, selfish, self-absorbed, in denial..yaddah yaddah....to see what they themselves created and have blamed YOU for THEIR doings? How did/do you handle that?
Great Topic!! I agree with you very much! I take responsibility for my actions....mistakes...and choices...
sigh Would'nt it be so wonderful if everyone did........Unfortunately many do not....sigh
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DangerouslySweet
Northwestern, Arizona USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 1:03 PM CST
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I completely agree with this, and it's not mentioned here, but I disagree, to a large extent, with what many people seem to do, and that's have a "blame the victim" mentality. Now, in situations where, say, a woman is being abused and she stays in it and keeps inventing excuses why she can't get out? Hmm...I'd have to question that.

But in a situation where you are a victim of someone else's wrongdoing, whether or not you, in some form or fashion, may have "contributed" to it, I still say the overwhelming majority of the blame and accountability lies with the offender, not the victim. To say that a victim is somehow responsible for the offending actions of another is to, at least in part, defend those actions. And that's just incomprehensible, to me.
You have to understand the dynamics of a relationship with an alcoholic/abuser. In the beginning if you are young and naive, you tell yourself 'he will change because he loves me'. As time goes on, you buy a house together, have children together, invest in a business together..........you then tell yourself 'he will change because we have a family now and he has more responsibilities'. You also feel a strong responsibility to your children to give them the benefit of being raised by both parents. In the meanwhile, you have gone from a young vibrant woman who is self assured and ambitious to a co-dependant enabler who is too ashamed to admit what really goes on behind those closed doors and now believes what she has been told for a number of years......that she is worthless, stupid, and unable to make it on her own. You make one excuse after another. So you stay......even when your close friends and family (if you haven't already deliberately alienated yourself from them) begin to question the bruises, why you rarely see them anymore and why you always seem so down in the dumps.

I take full responsibility for those choices I made before I finally divorced him 12 years ago after 14 years of marriage. I also take responsibility for the damage it caused to my children. But like their mother, they are all very strong willed and even though now in their adult lives it sometimes tries to creep back up on them, they fight it and find ways to not allow themselves to be the victims of their childhood.

Right or wrong, it happens a lot more than people realize. My only advice to women who are going through this kind of terror right now is to find someone......your minister, a close friend or relative, there are tons of organizations and counseling willing to help you to break the cycle and find within yourself the courage to make a change for yourself as well as your children. Alanon was a life saver for me and my children. Until then...my prayers are with all of you. hug
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battlebanshee
West Melbourne USA
Posted: Oct 25, 2006, 1:20 PM CST
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You have to understand the dynamics of a relationship with an alcoholic/abuser. In the beginning if you are young and naive, you tell yourself 'he will change because he loves me'. As time goes on, you buy a house together, have children together, invest in a business together..........you then tell yourself 'he will change because we have a family now and he has more responsibilities'. You also feel a strong responsibility to your children to give them the benefit of being raised by both parents. In the meanwhile, you have gone from a young vibrant woman who is self assured and ambitious to a co-dependant enabler who is too ashamed to admit what really goes on behind those closed doors and now believes what she has been told for a number of years......that she is worthless, stupid, and unable to make it on her own. You make one excuse after another. So you stay......even when your close friends and family (if you haven't already deliberately alienated yourself from them) begin to question the bruises, why you rarely see them anymore and why you always seem so down in the dumps.

I take full responsibility for those choices I made before I finally divorced him 12 years ago after 14 years of marriage. I also take responsibility for the damage it caused to my children. But like their mother, they are all very strong willed and even though now in their adult lives it sometimes tries to creep back up on them, they fight it and find ways to not allow themselves to be the victims of their childhood.

Right or wrong, it happens a lot more than people realize. My only advice to women who are going through this kind of terror right now is to find someone......your minister, a close friend or relative, there are tons of organizations and counseling willing to help you to break the cycle and find within yourself the courage to make a change for yourself as well as your children. Alanon was a life saver for me and my children. Until then...my prayers are with all of you.
Great thoughts. My post wasn't about substance abuse or an abuser. This was just about hmmmmm...just someone that can't see the truth right in front of their eyes, even though I have kindly pointed out the facts. rolling eyes This person would rather blame somoeone else than see that the person blamed is innocent and they themselves did the wrong done. Same conversation over and over again, my guess is because it's the only thing they have to really "beat the dead horse". Not to mention there are other "forces" driving the false accusations and idiocracy. How would you deal with a situation like that? frustrated frustrated
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