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if you love your god keep it to your self, let each love whom they want.

The God of the bible wants you to prove wether He is or not. He doesn`t expect any person to just accept Him on blind faith. He instructs His followers to prove all things, He makes no exceptions. This includes proving Himself.


1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good"


1 Corinthians 14:33. and "For God is not [the author] of confusion"

Just because there is a book that contains some reasonable stories, doesnt mean that the book is true or is a true representation of the facts.

Otherwise we are looking at "Richard Nixon was innocent" No one would believe that, so why would you beleive in something that has no basis in actual fact?

Religion is the best way to control a large amount of people. If the Pope said that homosexuality was acceptable, Catholic priests would breathe a sigh of releif. The Swiss guards would breathe a sigh of relief, and the choir boys would finally breathe out!!

Just because you believe in something and you can quote from a book that has been made up, adjusted, amended as people see fit, that doesnt mean that consensual sex between two adults (what ever the denomination is) is wrong.

You never did answer my question on whether lesbian porn was acceptable.

Because you are just like every other bible-thumping hypocrite. You are quite happy to espouse man/woman sex, but put you in front of a video with some heavy girl/girl sex and you would be just as forgetful about your views on gay sex as the majority of the red-blooded male population.

Just because there is a book that contains some reasonable stories, doesnt mean that the book is true or is a true representation of the facts.

Otherwise we are looking at "Richard Nixon was innocent" No one would believe that, so why would you beleive in something that has no basis in actual fact?

Religion is the best way to control a large amount of people. If the Pope said that homosexuality was acceptable, Catholic priests would breathe a sigh of releif. The Swiss guards would breathe a sigh of relief, and the choir boys would finally breathe out!!

Just because you believe in something and you can quote from a book that has been made up, adjusted, amended as people see fit, that doesnt mean that consensual sex between two adults (what ever the denomination is) is wrong.

You never did answer my question on whether lesbian porn was acceptable.

Because you are just like every other bible-thumping hypocrite. You are quite happy to espouse man/woman sex, but put you in front of a video with some heavy girl/girl sex and you would be just as forgetful about your views on gay sex as the majority of the red-blooded male population.

Luke 10: v 30-37 has Jesus telling the parable of the 'Good Samaritan'.
I wonder if we exchanged 'the Samaritan' for 'The Homosexual' if it would change the meaning at all! Maybe it would read like this...

A guy gets mugged by thieves, and is left half-dead by the roadside. Religious leaders pass him by...but then a HOMOSEXUAL saw him, and had compassion on him. Got him an ambulance, paid his hospital bill in advance...
Jesus then asks:
[36] "Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?"
[37] And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, "Go, and do thou likewise".
Luke 10: v 30-37.

So, which would -you- prefer to walk past you when you are mugged?
A religious leader, who reads his bible, condemns homosexuality, and walks past you, or drives past you in his big expensive car?

Or someone who helps you, calls you an ambulance...and, like Jesus Christ, shows compassion to those in need?

You make me choose between what you say and what Christ says...
and you I -don't- know.

Meanwhile, maybe TV Shows like "The L Word" will show all the non-bible-reading so-called 'christians' that gays are people too, no different than anyone else.

I cannot see why anyone secure in their heterosexuality would be at all concerned about whether or not someone else was homosexual.

I have heard that a few people out there who are 'homo-phobic' are only bothered by homosexuality because -they themselves- are fighting latent homosexual feelings that they themselves are having.

When that is the case, then I must concur with the adage:
"Better Blatant than Latent".

Really interesting discussion. Not sure the ugliness is really necessary. People have a right to believe whatever they choose. People's opinions are just that "Their opinion" Whether one believes in God or not is a personal issue and I believe it's possible to debate without passing judgement on another person's belief system. It's extreemism on both sides of any issue that prevents people from having open discussion.

Same sex relations??? To each their own

Really ----- I doubt homosexuals have the same constant heated debates about whether straight people *should* be allowed to have relationships...

Just because there is a book that contains some reasonable stories, doesnt mean that the book is true or is a true representation of the facts.

Otherwise we are looking at "Richard Nixon was innocent" No one would believe that, so why would you beleive in something that has no basis in actual fact?

Religion is the best way to control a large amount of people. If the Pope said that homosexuality was acceptable, Catholic priests would breathe a sigh of releif. The Swiss guards would breathe a sigh of relief, and the choir boys would finally breathe out!!

Just because you believe in something and you can quote from a book that has been made up, adjusted, amended as people see fit, that doesnt mean that consensual sex between two adults (what ever the denomination is) is wrong.

You never did answer my question on whether lesbian porn was acceptable.

Because you are just like every other bible-thumping hypocrite. You are quite happy to espouse man/woman sex, but put you in front of a video with some heavy girl/girl sex and you would be just as forgetful about your views on gay sex as the majority of the red-blooded male population.

This entire world has fallen under the influence of satan the devil. He broadcast his attitudes through the airwaves. Satan wants us all to be homosexuals. He hates mankind.

The animals are also influenced. Even their nature will someday be changed.

I personally think it is morally wrong ... after all it is talked about in the bible as being forbidden. I realize it will still go on as not everyone feels the same. Yet God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Well I do believe that people are born that way. I mean who would choose to be ostrasized by all you religous fanatics that are going to hell anyways