TTom50: What is wrong in China's society, Liz? When you have knife and hammer attacks on Children? China seems to need wake up as well....
OH I know those attacks were all because Communist birth control policies....The rural farmers were angry for only being allowed one child to birth. But the Chinese government is so closed, they will never say it.
You have such a vivid imagination, and of course you follow the biased American media, but thanks for the laugh.
The one child rule applies in only the largest cities, of course, the fact that China is acting responsibly towards their over population must really p**s you off, the western media play up the very rare occasion where a woman, who has had more than 3 children and warned many times, may find she has to be sterilised. Chinese people are very aware of the situation they live in, they know there is a limit to how much food is available within their country, 99% agree with the one child rule and most of the rural areas, where the rule does NOT apply, still voluntarily have just one child. Oh and this is not made up Tom, I teach 250 plus girls, and we discuss the rule every term, they all say the same thing, yes they would love to have two children, but their country just cannot support such a huge population that would occur if they just had as many children as they wanted.
The rarity of attacks on schools in China is due to many reasons, not least of which is that most guns are illegal, anyone found with an unlicensed gun will go to prison for a long time, but, as you have stated, every country have their crazy element, of course, you conveniently forget that the population of China is 1,347,350,000, over 4 times that of America, yet the crime rate is tiny in comparison, you have no idea what life is like here in China, you see a cruel, thoughtless and corrupt communist government, I see a Government trying to feed and provide work for the worlds largest population, they make mistakes, but what government doesn't?? You see a government that controls and a people with no freedom, I see a government that has to be in control and a peaceful country now exists because of that control, I see a people with as much freedom as I had in the UK, what I am restricted on, well I cannot access facebook, big deal!! I can talk to anyone about anything, I do need to be careful about actively trying to dislodge the government, sounds reasonable to me, they have a tough job without dissidents creating more problems. Tom, Like everyone in China, we know the government is not perfect, but, we also know that the Chinese are, by and large, a very peaceful people, far more so than western countries, can I politely suggest that before you make more uninformed and biased comments, you read up on the history of China, read what appalling things the British did to them in the opium wars, what terrible things the Americans did to them during the expanse of America and the building of the railroads in the states, read what unimaginable disgusting things the Japanese did in the 1930's, and then, perhaps you will understand a little as to why the Chinese and their government distrust and are frightened of the west.
rizlared: You have such a vivid imagination, and of course you follow the biased American (China) media, but thanks for the laugh.
The one child rule applies in only the largest cities, of course, the fact that China is acting responsibly towards their over population must really p**s you off, the western media play up the very rare occasion where a woman, who has had more than 3 children and warned many times, may find she has to be sterilised. Chinese people are very aware of the situation they live in, they know there is a limit to how much food is available within their country, 99% agree with the one child rule and most of the rural areas, where the rule does NOT apply, still voluntarily have just one child. Oh and this is not made up Tom, I teach 250 plus girls, and we discuss the rule every term, they all say the same thing, yes they would love to have two children, but their country just cannot support such a huge population that would occur if they just had as many children as they wanted.
The rarity of attacks on schools in China (USA)is due to many reasons, not least of which is that most guns are illegal, anyone found with an unlicensed gun will go to prison for a long time, but, as you have stated, every country have their crazy element, of course, you conveniently forget that the population of China is 1,347,350,000, over 4 times that of America, yet the crime rate is tiny in comparison, (that is why you have 3.5 political prisoners in China) you have no idea what life is like here in China (America), you see a cruel, thoughtless and corrupt communist government, I see a Government trying to feed and provide work for the worlds largest population, they make mistakes, but what government doesn't?? (Even the Amercian gov't right/) You see a government that controls and a people with no freedom, I see a government that has to be in control and a peaceful country now exists because of that control, I see a people with as much freedom as I had in the UK, what I am restricted on, well I cannot access facebook, big deal!! I can talk to anyone about anything, I do need to be careful about actively trying to dislodge the government, sounds reasonable to me, they have a tough job without dissidents creating more problems. (When Occupy was investigated by the FBI, they treated it like a terrorist movment. So I am glad we see eye to eye on some things) Tom, Like everyone in China, we know the government is not perfect, but, we also know that the Chinese (Americans) are, by and large, a very peaceful people, far more so than western countries, can I politely suggest that before you make more uninformed and biased comments, you read up on the history of China, read what appalling things the British did to them in the opium wars, what terrible things the Americans did to them during the expanse of America and the building of the railroads in the states, read what unimaginable disgusting things the Japanese did in the 1930's, and then, perhaps you will understand a little as to why the Chinese and their government distrust and are frightened of the west.
Tell us what Mao did to them, Liz? How many died in the Communist revolution? Between 85m and 100m
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
TTom50: I have read the history of both China and Communist China, Liz. The next time you call me biased and uniformed, you can consider this debate at a end.
W
Oh come on TT you are biased in the true sense of the term, I would not call you uninformed except from the point of view no one can know everything.
The guy was just giving his point of view on the spot.
ASnd I think you calling him Liz a bit provocative. JMO
Glatlol: Exactly, other than military and some police officers why would anyone want one?
maybe of the Inaliable Right to Selfdefense,which,in that Schoolshooting,Government violated! Yep,and the Right to Life,which you ain't got if you're not allowed to defend it!
Conrad73: maybe of the Inaliable Right to Selfdefense,which,in that Schoolshooting,Government violated! Yep,and the Right to Life,which you ain't got if you're not allowed to defend it!
So you think people have the right to kill each other?
Glatlol: So you think people have the right to kill each other?
say WHAT????????????????????????????? You really don't get it,do you! What are you going to do if someone is trying to kill you? Submit? So,you believe that your Life is worth less than the one of those that are trying to kill you?
Conrad73: say WHAT????????????????????????????? You really don't get it,do you! What are you going to do if someone is trying to kill you? Submit? So,you believe that your Life is worth less than the one of those that are trying to kill you?
Guess,to you,your wish to live,and another person's wish to kill you is just a matter of different Opinions?
Yes, I've already explained to her what guns are used for besides killing and she knows the difference between killing and murdering... I hope. if she'd ever been to the USA she'd know that .44magnum revolvers are used for bowling instead of balls and that shot guns are standards in bingo halls .
galrads: Yes, I've already explained to her what guns are used for besides killing and she knows the difference between killing and murdering... I hope. if she'd ever been to the USA she'd know that .44magnum revolvers are used for bowling instead of balls and that shot guns are standards in bingo halls .
Good evening Galrads ,Do peoples need a Licence to own a Gun in usa ?
rizlared: Where will all this stupidity end? Americans need to grow up, realise that the world has moved on since the constitution was written, you have the most powerful military in the world, you are one of the most powerful countries in the world, yet time after time, you act like spoilt children, who need a smack on the bum and sent to bed with no supper.
Those that disagree with my opinion are welcome to comment, but please, don't shoot me!!!!
I just watched a movie "In a better world" a story about bullies and violence in a northern European setting and philosophy. At the end, the 12 year boys blow up a guy's van for bullying one of the fathers. The authorities hear the full story and just charge the boys with aggressive vandalism - in America the boys would have been charged as adults and with attempted murder - and locked up for many years.
I think we Americans are intolerant of violent acts, one of the largest industries in America is prison industries - and prisons are a great place to build anger and rage at the world.
galrads: No, a license is required to own most guns until you something full-auto from the factory. And, in my opinion that kind of license isn't worth it.
We need licence to own a Gun and a permit to Carry a Gun ,Firearms are extremly expansive here ,four times expansive than all Other countries due to Heavy Burden to Import Tax and corruption
I have read the history of both China and Communist China, Liz. The next time you call me biased and uniformed, you can consider this debate at a end.
W
The fact you continue to call me Liz says it all about you Tom, you are biased and ill-informed, your knowledge of China is at best lacking at worst, completely wrong. Mao did dreadful things, every Chinese knows that, but, he unified China, created a growth plan that worked, established a way to rid China of the British and their drugs, how many Chinese died from drugs sold by the British to finance there invasion of India. Every country has its bad moments Tom, yours included, but China has and is growing in power and knowledge, it is learning from its mistakes, and, just like your own country, it will continue to make mistakes, unlike your country, the mistakes so far have not involved attacking far away counties based on lies and for monetary gain.
There is no need to reply, as you will only use the post to further try and be sarcastic. Merry Christmas Tom, and I hope a peaceful New Year, but won't hold my breath as long as Americans hold opinions such as yours.
ali110: We need licence to own a Gun and a permit to Carry a Gun ,Firearms are extremly expansive here ,four times expansive than all Other countries due to Heavy Burden to Import Tax and corruption
guns are relatively inexpensive here, especially if you cast your own bullets and do your own reloading. Most citizens are required to obtain a permit to conceal carry here. A Federal Firearms License type III is required to own full auto firearms, but that isn't worth it because the possesor of a type-III FFL loses a lot of other constitutionaly guaranteed freedoms.
galrads: Yes, I've already explained to her what guns are used for besides killing and she knows the difference between killing and murdering... I hope. if she'd ever been to the USA she'd know that .44magnum revolvers are used for bowling instead of balls and that shot guns are standards in bingo halls .
Funny to talk to the Irish about guns and killing? History has a lot on her side to support her views that only law enforcement need guns.
What are we doing with such a need for guns in our homes? We don't live in the wild west anymore - our majority of folks only hunt for food in grocery stores -
the animal hunters and they tell themselves they are putting food on their table are just plainly excuses because they enjoy hunting and killing things.
And don't get me started about those that think they need a gun in their home for protection - the largest cash of guns in the underground market are those stolen from people's homes -
galrads: Yes, I've already explained to her what guns are used for besides killing and she knows the difference between killing and murdering... I hope. if she'd ever been to the USA she'd know that .44magnum revolvers are used for bowling instead of balls and that shot guns are standards in bingo halls .
Dont talk about me as if I am not here lol.
And I have already explained to you that guns are made to maim and kill, and one of the reasons I have never been to the USA is because people think its ok to have guns around the place and the bowling thing really confuses me, why shoot the pins instead of knocking them down? Thats not the point of bowling.
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