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Sep 20, 2014 12:37 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?
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Sep 20, 2014 12:43 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
psygnar
psygnarpsygnarJleeb Al Shuyoukh, Al Farwaniyah Kuwait2 Threads 1 Polls 988 Posts
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?


wellllll imho. i have a few friends who are atheists. they are very chill people.but jus cz they dont have a faith or belief does not mean they should be distrusted. never judge a book by its cover. its like bein a stereotype and sayin not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorist are muslims. "media quote"
i am a catholic myself. but still. if ur not tryin to convert me or preach to me or tryin to kill me. then i can say. well ur good people grin

ps - ganja brain talkin smoking crazy
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Sep 20, 2014 12:47 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
psygnar: wellllll imho. i have a few friends who are atheists. they are very chill people.but jus cz they dont have a faith or belief does not mean they should be distrusted. never judge a book by its cover. its like bein a stereotype and sayin not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorist are muslims. "media quote"
i am a catholic myself. but still. if ur not tryin to convert me or preach to me or tryin to kill me. then i can say. well ur good people

ps - ganja brain talkin


laugh That's how I see it also. I found it rather scary that that is how people think. Hopefully that will change.
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Sep 20, 2014 12:54 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?
I would say anyone can be moral. This is whether they are an atheist, agnostic, or a true believer.

As far as trusting someone goes, I base that on what they say and what they do. I don' t usually base it on their belief system though. Having a belief system is only useful if I follow it.smile
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Sep 20, 2014 1:08 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?

Maybe it has less to do with morality and more to do with not needing group belonging, or a pragmatism which might threaten how some people make sense of their world. dunno
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Sep 20, 2014 1:35 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
psygnar
psygnarpsygnarJleeb Al Shuyoukh, Al Farwaniyah Kuwait2 Threads 1 Polls 988 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Maybe it has less to do with morality and more to do with not needing group belonging, or a pragmatism which might threaten how some people make sense of their world.

those people should smoke pot to clear their minds a little. cz imo i think they are very cloudy grin crazy
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Sep 20, 2014 2:15 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?


So I suppose those fine folk in the Westboro Baptist Church are trusted above atheists? I'd like to know who commissioned the poll and who did they actually poll....My bet is that it was conducted in the bible belt on a Sunday morning in church! pffft!doh
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Sep 20, 2014 2:25 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
psygnar
psygnarpsygnarJleeb Al Shuyoukh, Al Farwaniyah Kuwait2 Threads 1 Polls 988 Posts
justjim63: So I suppose those fine folk in the Westboro Baptist Church are trusted above atheists? I'd like to know who commissioned the poll and who did they actually poll....My bet is that it was conducted in the bible belt on a Sunday morning in church! pffft!

my thoughts exactly i think dunno rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 20, 2014 2:40 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
My opinion is that there is a majority of believers in the U.S. who thinks that this allows them to judge others.

And that doesn't make them different than some U.S. atheists.
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Sep 20, 2014 2:42 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
GUZMAN1: My opinion is that there is a majority of believers in the U.S. who thinks that this allows them to judge others.

And that doesn't make them different than some U.S. atheists.


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Sep 20, 2014 3:11 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?


Would you trust someone who has been lying for 2000 years? rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 20, 2014 3:45 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
If people live good lives, it should not matter whether they are joined a religion or not.

But people generally only trust what they understand. They understand organised religion, preferably their own.

Anything outside of that is treated with mistrust.
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Sep 20, 2014 5:47 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Nidifugous: This week, I heard twice that Atheists are the most distrusted group in the U.S. right along with rapists. Second most distrusted group are Muslims. This was from a gallup poll.

Why is that so. Any ideas? Do people think that one can only be moral if one believes in God?


Does one need to believe in God to be moral? No, but it probably helps.

People used to wrongly believe that there was a man in the sky watching everything you do, and now in the Atheist West there literally is a man in the sky watching everything you do. We've gone from a Christian state to a surveillance state.
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Sep 20, 2014 5:59 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Does one need to believe in God to be moral? No, but it probably helps.

People used to wrongly believe that there was a man in the sky watching everything you do, and now in the Atheist West there literally is a man in the sky watching everything you do. We've gone from a Christian state to a surveillance state.


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Sep 20, 2014 6:15 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Does one need to believe in God to be moral? No, but it probably helps.

People used to wrongly believe that there was a man in the sky watching everything you do, and now in the Atheist West there literally is a man in the sky watching everything you do. We've gone from a Christian state to a surveillance state.


Instead of Holy God we have Big Brother.
Instead of priests and doctrine we have lawyers and regulation.
Instead of Jesus we have Obama.
Instead of heresy we have political incorrectness.
Instead of sermons we have propaganda.
Instead of morality we have self-interest.
Instead of spiritualism we have hedonism.
Instead of love thy neighbour we have love thy self.
Instead of humility we have narcissism.

For so many reasons people are less trustable under Atheism. The flock no longer polices itself, and it was inevitable that without faith in God some people would then elevate themselves to the position of Masters of the Universe.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:05 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
I know God fearing people who are anything but moral. I also know people who are not religious who are actually decent people.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:09 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
From the perspective of owning a small business I much prefer working for the religious. They're better at paying the bills(and on time)and don't try to swindle you as much... except the Muslims and Jews who always try to haggle, in fact, you can totally trust in them to haggle. However, you can appeal to Muslims through their sense of honour. Tell the Muslim you don't want his money and that he has dishonoured himself by trying to cheat you and his attitude will do a 180 and he will overpay the bill if anything.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:09 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
bungallow55
bungallow55bungallow55Lakeland, Florida USA238 Threads 10 Polls 3,837 Posts
Capitol Hill, paid for this poll

they are the ones most distrusted in USA.
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Sep 20, 2014 8:45 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
joey987: I would say anyone can be moral. This is whether they are an atheist, agnostic, or a true believer.

As far as trusting someone goes, I base that on what they say and what they do. I don' t usually base it on their belief system though. Having a belief system is only useful if I follow it.


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Sep 20, 2014 8:57 AM CST Atheists - most distrusted minority in the US
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Maybe it has less to do with morality and more to do with not needing group belonging, or a pragmatism which might threaten how some people make sense of their world.


Interesting. So it boils down to fear of their paradigm collapsing. That's actually a really good point. Last night I went and watched some videos on youtube on the subject and I think you're on to something judging by the variety of clips.
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