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Yes it does happen to women too. I think sometimes when you think your giving 100 percent is that you don't realize that you might be smothering the other person. I think sometimes when people are "too" nice all the time that it can at times be a nice way to "control" the other.

Hmmmm... that is a thought to ponder... How do you show that you care but aren't trying to control someone...? You play hardball... i am seriously having to ponder your responses. it's refreshing and quite intimidating at points. But i can see that and perhaps that is where i have gone wrong on many accounts. Profound.

I have experienced that Lion, my last relationship was of manipulation, he was nice to try to control me, when he could not control me, he became verbally abusive.

Eight years later he still has a dangerous obsession with me.

I went throught that too Panther. Where I was coming from more was more of a way of making it difficult for the other to be honest..(guilt trip) kind of nice.

When I say "control" I mean it like trying to coerce someone to be in love with you or trying to make them feel guilty for not loving you.

women want to be loved cared for respected

Im a woman who can never find a man who can be straight up about what he wants and I find it really annoying. I dont think being forthright is scary at all, if anything, it lets a lady know what you want from the get go, and it would be nice, rather than not having a clue what you want. I think it is a very good trait to have, although I do find that trait in very short supply where I come from. Whatever happened to "love like you've never been hurt". If everyone in this world goes around life shadowed by past hurts, how is anyone to ever find true love????

I've been hurt more times than I care to remember but I still hold onto the thought that perhaps one day, my knight in shining armour will show himself, therefore my heart must remain openminded to the endless possibilities

There is no an accurate answer to the question "what a woman wants" because women are different. What I want, another female might not want.
I think it would be the best just to be yourself, and there is someone out there who will like you for just being yourself. However, if you are being unfair to women, which I am saying that you are, no women will like that. What is unfair? Do to others only what you wish others to do to you.

Sorry I wanted to say :However, if you are being unfair to women, which I am NOT saying that you are, no women will like that.

What do women really want...????????????




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They just don't know it yet

Hi,Panther. I see those words in almost all of the womens profiles and that is what I look for, but in the end it comes down too looks, the size of your bank account,although they dont come right out and say they want someone that is rich. I can accept the thing about looks because there has to be at least some physical attraction/chemestry. My self, it doesnt mstter how rich they are, if I need money I will go too a bank and get a loan.

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That is the question of the centuries. When someone finds out the answer, let me know and the rest of the men.

I'm sure it has been said "EVERYTHING"

Sorry to disagree with you Hal but for me the size of the bank account has NOTHING to do with it. I have my own money and if I want more I, too, can go to the bank for a loan!!! I know, and have dated guys with lots of money, and they do nothing for me. As a matter of fact, all they do is talk about how much money they make and how much they have in the bank. They have no personality, which is what I am looking for.

Stargazer, I wasnt trying imply that all women are that way. It is the ones,whose profiles I have read.Also, not refering to any of the ladies here in the forums.

Stargazer, here is one example. The lady stated she makes less than $25,000 a year, then in her match basics she wants the man tohave an incom of $150, 000+ a year and that looks doesnt matter.

And what were the poor ones like?