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got any left? They have good street value!

haha actually do, they let me keep all four. They are funny looking. Im going to start selling Kia Tooth neclaces, want one?? haha

How does that fit into the "vegetarian" aspect? Having someone's removed tooth around the neck...

Yeah, I'll take 1!

an animals tooth?

Alright, ill put one aside for you. You're lucky they are on sale right now. Quarter of a mil each. Not bad eh?

that's a bargain! Last tooth I wanted to buy was a year or so ago at the county auction, the guy ended up paying 3.2 million for a single tooth!

Holy shit... maybe my asking price is too low? Well... we'll keep it that way for you anyway.

Haha so you ready for bed yet or what?

I'll take it!

Yes...bed time.

my take...i'm also a complete vegetarian.

i am one hell of a cook, but i do not cook meat. any man i was ever with...if i was cooking dinner for him...was pleased that it was happening. if he wished, he could set up a separate pan and make himself a steak to go with.

in the beginning, i would cook it for my husband...but i found that it made me so ill that i wouldn't eat MY food, and that i was feeling resentful. that resentment was more detrimental to the relationship than him having to cook his own.

any man i'm with now, they know ahead of time that cooking meat goes against my core beliefs. and i think it's gross. i can't even be in the room with pork cooking, the smell makes me ill...but they deal with it...they eat all the stuff i've made to go along, eh?

A friend of mine was a vegetarian and married a meat eater. They both worked.

She was expected to cook a meat meal every single day. I remember visiting them once and when I arrived she was cleaning up the dishes and the pots and pans she used to cook the meat in. He was nowhere around the kitchen to help.

The marriage didn't last over three years. I don't think she thought it through before they got married.

I hope you can find a vegetarian to spend your life with. I think that over the years it could cause problems.

you memtioned marriage and religion both involve believing in something bigger than yourself. both require a committment, union . and are 24/7 365 days a year of your life.

that being said theman who chooses to marry you same as you choosing him come into the relationship eyes open to each others belief and wants from the other.

I feel you cooking a meat for a special occassion family, employer, holiday is not asking to much, as for your your husband throwing a roast in a slow cooker or grilling a steak hey most these task of cooking meat and not lengthy processes ya know...
yeah love is a peculiar thing many have forsaken thier religion for it... hell I even got my wife to bait her own hook, she never did or would get anywhere near it, but for love she overcame. I often wonder if all those things conmvinced her to try and all those things she said she only doing it for love if she is still doing them.

his sound harsh but husband and wives come and go, but a religion that has provided for you well through your life???

That's a good question, Kianna. The chances of your finding someone with those exact same beliefs I would think are pretty slim. If you're asking if it would be hypocritcal on your part to prepare meals, etc. for someone else, I don't think so at all. As long as you respect each other's position on this matter or any other matter as far as I'm concerned.

But...no one should ever take me hunting with them because I would scream "Run Bambi"!! That'll fix their little red wagons!

On the moral dilemma I would simply suggest finding a man who has the same beliefs as you. Then you don't need to compromise your beliefs nor do you need to push them onto someone else. I think if you feel that strongly about it then you should seek someone who is similar-mined. There are actually vegetarian and vegan dating sites, you might want to try those.

I have been a vegetarian before, not for religious or moral reasons though. In fact, I wasn't a pure vegetarian because I kept chickens for eggs and there were occasions when I would also cull a chicken.

I have no problem with death as I see death as a very natural part of life no different than birth actually. Death is an inevitable part of life. It is the guaranteed end to all living beings. Therefore when something is killed it's a natural process, only the timeliness of the event can be called into question, certainly not the end result. All living things are mortal and will die.

Of course, the amount of pain a being suffers during it's dying process is also a question. But we as humans don't seem to have any problem at all demanding that old people die long drawn-out painful "natural" deaths caused by disease or some other "natural" cause. Why disease is considered a "natural cause" whilst a lethal injection is not eludes me. Humans seem to take 'unnatural' control of their lives in all other aspects of life yet when it comes to their demise they often get all huffy about anything they deem to be 'unnatural'.

Personally I'm a big proponent of euthanasia because I believe a peaceful quick death is better than a long drawn-out painful one. They both end in the same ultimate result. There's no avoiding death in the end.

Along those same lines,… When I kept chickens for food I also pondered the ethics and morality of the situation. I took very good care of my chickens. They had an absolutely wonderful life. A life that they would not have had at all had I not decided to raise them! So now the question wasn't one of whether I am killing them, but whether they would have even been born at all if I hadn't been willing to raise them?

So now I'm looking at it from the point of view that I gave the chickens at least some life where if I didn't the chickens would have never been born in the first place. So now the question becomes one of giving chickens some life as opposed to no life at all.

With that in mind, I can easily eat chickens that I have raised knowing that I gave them a life they would not have otherwise had. In this way, I am actually giving life to the animals that I eat. If I didn’t eat them they would have never been born in the first place. So by being a carnivore I am giving life to animals that would have otherwise never lived.

From my religious point of view that's the way things are meant to be. Thus I am a moral hero for being a carnivore!

Thou shall not kill is biblical for humans. The Bible clearly states that meat is necessary for the body. Builds skin cells and muscle. It states that the animal shoud be killed friendly (not scared or uneasy)with blessings for his life. There is meat on the market that has been blessed. It is called Kosher. One must look for it.
I also would never kill an animal myself to eat. I also do not fish. I eat fish that is caught in mass quantities. Not caught with a hook. This is just me, not what I want others to do. But I feel fishing should be done as it was done in the day. With nets, because fish bleed and feel. I feel that hooks are cruel.
The thing is, if you date a man. You should make him aware of your ways before it gets started. There are a few men out there that do not eat meat. Good luck to you.

Kat

Well, like I said. It was "something along the lines" of thou shall not kill. I am not christian and it is not the bible that my teachings come from. I am well aware of Kosher food, but Kosher or non Kosher it goes against my beliefs. Thanks for the tip though.

You're right, if I meet a guy I should let him know almost right away what my beliefs are, so he can decide if he is ok with that before we go any further. There are some Manitarians out there hahah. But most veggies, I have found, are women. Did you know that vegetarians live 10 to 15 years longer than meat eaters? I just read that the other day, and I thought it was kinda cool.

If you do it, you will be going against your own beliefs, you can always talk to him and explain him and if he loves you, he will respect them, No don't do it, be who you are and don't go against your belief for anybody.



El Diablo

Abra you are an amazing man you know. Very smart, and experienced. I understand that death is a natural thing, and I am alright with things dieing.. haha.. that sounds mean. But just so long as they are not dieing for my benefit.

You sound like you have a good heart in you, thanks for writing back :)

Id love to write more to you, but I finally got someone to take me christmas shopping ;) I am scared to drive with all the meds from having my wisdom teeth out.

Thanks El Diablo,
Maybe it would be more important to be true to myself as well..

Ones beliefs in a relationship should be respected and even celebrated and not compromised or attempted to be changed.

My.02