tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
123whisper: Actually it be good that all of rich elite of politicians go living on the Moon where they can't ignore people will and suverenity of every country involved in EU.
Perhaps a bit further away on mars would be better
123whisper: Actually it be good that all of rich elite of politicians go living on the Moon where they can't ignore people will and suverenity of every country involved in EU.
I am afraid we will be witnessing a permanent full Moon eclipse...
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: The same Richard Branson who insisted that not joining the Euro was a disaster. Many people have an emotional bent towards internationalism which overrides their every good sense.
There are cynical capitalists backing libs for cheap labour and there are sincere capitalists backing libs as they grew up listening to John Lennon and don't realise that the world is much more dangerous than their ruling class enclaved way of life. Branson is one of the sincere ones.
And it's worth distinguishing between the cynical and the sincere elites because they have a lot of talent which we need. The remain side has talent which we need. Like so many who voted remain Branson is not a bad person, but I'm afraid to say he is a moron.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
In the SW of England the fruit growers are bomoaning the loss of immigrant pickers because of Brexit. I other the loss of cheap labout to line their pockets. Well they will just have to pay a living wage now.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Not everyone thinks like you do. Some people genuinely mean well and have sincere convictions.
We have won power for Britain and now we must win over the British people. Let us not tear down one of our best capitalists for having a principle we do not share.
Only 'principal' I see righteousness is democratic choice made 'by the people and for the people!'
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
tomcatwarne: In the SW of England the fruit growers are bomoaning the loss of immigrant pickers because of Brexit. I other the loss of cheap labout to line their pockets. Well they will just have to pay a living wage now.
And we'll have to pay more at the checkout. We'll have to sacrifice some of our luxuries in order to pay a living wage to the people who provide our needs and wants.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
123whisper: Only 'principal' I see righteousness is democratic choice made 'by the people and for the people!'
He believes in what he says and that matters whether you agree with him or not. Another example of a guy like Branson is Sadiq Khan who isn't an islamist at all, but is a sincere(sincerely wrong)liberal.
We have to find a way of working with these people or lose the fight. Britons must cooperate or we lose our independence. It's as simple as that.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Nevertheless a great number of the old voted independence, not through self-interest, but did so for their Grandchildren. Leaving the EU was doubtfully in the self-interest of the old - retiring will become more expensive and property will lose value - and not all of the old are beady-eyed loons where everyone is a fascist or in a global conspiracy.
There is a fanatical ideologue or little englander streak within the Brexit grey vote, but most of them are just good grandparents.
And the young need to appreciate this. We have the old knowingly voting against its own self-interest to help the young, and we have the young voting against their own self-interest in favour of the old. Each generation has predominantly voted against its own self-interest and more of the old than the young meant to do this. The young are looking at the media and voted remain while the old are looking into their children's eyes and voted leave.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: And the young need to appreciate this. We have the old knowingly voting against its own self-interest to help the young, and we have the young voting against their own self-interest in favour of the old. Each generation has predominantly voted against its own self-interest and more of the old than the young meant to do this. The young are looking at the media and voted remain while the old are looking into their children's eyes and voted leave.
Especially offline amongst the people who don't make a show of talking about politics and it is an unfortunate thing that most of those willing to talk about politics are the least amongst us. Exceptions exist.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
KremaP: I don't know where you take your info from but you always get it wrong... Bulgarians are a South Slavic ethnic group. Other pre-Slavic Indo-European peoples, including Dacians(if distinct from Thracians), Celts, Goths, Romans, Greeks, Sarmatians, Paeonians and Illyrians have also settled into the later Bulgarian land. Romanians are not Slavs...
the point being:
If you want to "keep your genes" you should breed only with the people that are more similiar to your genetic pool
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
KremaP: Your actual picture is better than the former one and you are right a cover of a book says nothing about the book yet a person's picture says a lot.
Why are you so obsessed with what picture I have on, they are all recent, from this year...or I have to pose in my working gear, holding my guns, so you take me seriously?!
Have a good day Life, I am off to work and my work is a great pleasure for me!
I said your picture is better and better is good.
does it make me obessed at your picture?? To take you seriously??? "pose in my working gear, holding my guns.."
it is you the only one who can take yourself seriously.
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Perhaps a bit further away on mars would be better