Any well educated scientific-types out there to help with a few questions? (18)
rohaan: 1. I can't really get a very good answer for this: Does storing batteries, regular ones, that is, AA, AAA, D, etc... in the freezer help either prolong or rejuvenate, or both?
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
Number 1. Buy rechargeable batteries
Number 2. Don´t know, don´t live in the US of A
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Juicer24v: Number 1. Buy rechargeable batteries
Number 2. Don´t know, don´t live in the US of A
I already know about rechargeable batteries, just wanted to know if the freezer trick was just a myth or if it really works. My question about the cell phone was fairly international, there are cell phones everywhere. The question was, how is it fair to multiple-charge for the same thing. Thanxxxxxx----Number 2. Don´t know, don´t live in the US of A
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Over here, you are only charged for calls that other people make if you are roaming, in a different country.
They pay the regular amount, and you pay the additional roaming fee.
They pay the regular amount, and you pay the additional roaming fee.
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rohaan: 1. I can't really get a very good answer for this: Does storing batteries, regular ones, that is, AA, AAA, D, etc... in the freezer help either prolong or rejuvenate, or both?
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
1. All AA & AAA, D batteries last about the same whether in freezer or not.... use them then get more as needed.. $ store or Walmart!
2. Rohaan, you say you live in Oregon USA in America and you don't know the best cell phone deals around???are you sure you live in Oregon? Or another country and just using Oregon as a way to fit in as if you live in America?
UNBELIEVABLE! 
Everyone in America knows that AT&T, Version, Cricket, and T-Mobile are a few others are of the best cell phone companies about town across America.
Most monthly set fees $$45.00 to $50.00 a month unlimited calling day or night locally and out of state, no roaming fees, extra fees, and lower monthly fees if you catch their special , I think there is a small fee for overseas calling, like 10 or 20 cents a minute... Some of these companies will also change your cell phone code if you already have a cell phone, this way you will not need to buy a new phone... depends on the kind of phone you already own. If you have a home line phone, most will bundle packages cell, line phone, tv and internet cheaper... $95.00 to $120 a month. Don't a science degree to know this information...just need to know whats out there and call thenm and ask questions abut their cell phone plans...
Check them out their cell phone plans for yourself. call and ask THEM question!
ORDER OF BEST CELL PHONE CARRIERS IN MY OPINION
1. T_MOBILE
2. ATT&T
3. VERISON
4. CRICKET
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rohaan: 1. I can't really get a very good answer for this: Does storing batteries, regular ones, that is, AA, AAA, D, etc... in the freezer help either prolong or rejuvenate, or both?
rejuvenate, no chance
storing batteries in a cool place will minimize their self discharge
Not that important with ordinary alkaline batteries,
NiMH and NiCd batteries self discharge a lot faster
Putting batteries in the freezer or refrigerator doesn't necessarily prolong their life
Alkaline batteries stored at "room temperature" self discharge at a rate of less than two percent per year. So normally refrigerating or freezing them will only help maintain their charge by a tiny amount. Hardly worth the effort of chilling them. However, if alkaline batteries are stored at higher temperatures they will start to lose capacity much quicker. At 85 degrees F they only lose about 5% per year, but at 100 degrees they lose 25% per year. So if you live in a very hot climate or are storing your batteries in a very hot location, it may be worthwhile for you to store your alkaline batteries in a refrigerator instead.
NiMH and NiCd batteries self discharge at a MUCH faster rate than alkaline batteries. In fact, at "room temperature" (about 70 degrees F) NiMH and NiCD batteries will self discharge a few percent PER DAY. Storing them at lower temperatures will slow their self discharge rate dramatically. NiMH batteries stored at freezing will retain over 90% of their charge for full month. So it might make sense to store them in a freezer. If you do, it's best to bring them back to room temperature before using them. Even if you don't freeze your NiMH batteries after charging them, you should store them in a cool place to minimize their self discharge.
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rohaan: 1. I can't really get a very good answer for this: Does storing batteries, regular ones, that is, AA, AAA, D, etc... in the freezer help either prolong or rejuvenate, or both?
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
To Question 1
No, tis a myth about the fridge. Keep alkaline dry cells COOL and DRY. I have some 11 year old ni-cad dry cells that are STILL very charged! Just kept in a cool dry place. The freezer "trick", in my experience, has actually shortened the lives.
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DaMooseLives: To Question 1
No, tis a myth about the fridge. Keep alkaline dry cells COOL and DRY. I have some 11 year old ni-cad dry cells that are STILL very charged! Just kept in a cool dry place. The freezer "trick", in my experience, has actually shortened the lives.
No, tis a myth about the fridge. Keep alkaline dry cells COOL and DRY. I have some 11 year old ni-cad dry cells that are STILL very charged! Just kept in a cool dry place. The freezer "trick", in my experience, has actually shortened the lives.
That was my first reaction as well, but then came across that link.
A few links later, there is none that says not to do it but most mention that there is little or no gain and more risks involved.
Looking at the discharge rates, it makes sense that in some applications some people would want to put batteries in the fridge. If you were a photographer that needed to store a bunch of early generation NiHM batteries for your flashes, for example, it might have made sense to charge them all at once, put them in the fridge, and then throw them in your gear bag the morning of a big event.
Practically speaking, however, there’s next to no reason to put your batteries in the fridge. Whatever gains you might get in shelf-life using the technique would be offset by potential problems. Micro condensation on and inside the battery can damage it and cause corrosion. Extremely low temperatures (such as a very chilly portion of the fridge or placing them in a freezer as some people erroneously advise) can further damage the batteries. Even if you don’t outright damage the battery, you have to wait for the battery to warm up to use it and keep it from gathering condensation if the room is humid.
In essence, you’re risking ruining your batteries to squeeze a few months of storage out of them and, further, the batteries that benefit most from cold storage are rechargeable and could have just been recharged prior to your intended use. To seal our stance on leaving your batteries at room temperature, the manufacturers themselves officially recommend against it. So, buy your battery storage box, but keep it in a cool, dry, and non-refrigerated location.
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metamorphic: That was my first reaction as well, but then came across that link.
A few links later, there is none that says not to do it but most mention that there is little or no gain and more risks involved.
Looking at the discharge rates, it makes sense that in some applications some people would want to put batteries in the fridge. If you were a photographer that needed to store a bunch of early generation NiHM batteries for your flashes, for example, it might have made sense to charge them all at once, put them in the fridge, and then throw them in your gear bag the morning of a big event.
Practically speaking, however, there’s next to no reason to put your batteries in the fridge. Whatever gains you might get in shelf-life using the technique would be offset by potential problems. Micro condensation on and inside the battery can damage it and cause corrosion. Extremely low temperatures (such as a very chilly portion of the fridge or placing them in a freezer as some people erroneously advise) can further damage the batteries. Even if you don’t outright damage the battery, you have to wait for the battery to warm up to use it and keep it from gathering condensation if the room is humid.
In essence, you’re risking ruining your batteries to squeeze a few months of storage out of them and, further, the batteries that benefit most from cold storage are rechargeable and could have just been recharged prior to your intended use. To seal our stance on leaving your batteries at room temperature, the manufacturers themselves officially recommend against it. So, buy your battery storage box, but keep it in a cool, dry, and non-refrigerated location.
A few links later, there is none that says not to do it but most mention that there is little or no gain and more risks involved.
Looking at the discharge rates, it makes sense that in some applications some people would want to put batteries in the fridge. If you were a photographer that needed to store a bunch of early generation NiHM batteries for your flashes, for example, it might have made sense to charge them all at once, put them in the fridge, and then throw them in your gear bag the morning of a big event.
Practically speaking, however, there’s next to no reason to put your batteries in the fridge. Whatever gains you might get in shelf-life using the technique would be offset by potential problems. Micro condensation on and inside the battery can damage it and cause corrosion. Extremely low temperatures (such as a very chilly portion of the fridge or placing them in a freezer as some people erroneously advise) can further damage the batteries. Even if you don’t outright damage the battery, you have to wait for the battery to warm up to use it and keep it from gathering condensation if the room is humid.
In essence, you’re risking ruining your batteries to squeeze a few months of storage out of them and, further, the batteries that benefit most from cold storage are rechargeable and could have just been recharged prior to your intended use. To seal our stance on leaving your batteries at room temperature, the manufacturers themselves officially recommend against it. So, buy your battery storage box, but keep it in a cool, dry, and non-refrigerated location.
The cool, dry NON-REFRIGERATED aspect is bang on! And I go through literally hundreds per year!
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Freezing a battery is not recommended.
But you can recharge any alkaline or any battery for that maters.
Unless your freeze the battery and the frozen liquid expands and shorts the plates!
But you can recharge any alkaline or any battery for that maters.
Unless your freeze the battery and the frozen liquid expands and shorts the plates!
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Placing batteries in Freezing temperatures ? no
What needs to be in freezing temperatures is your coffee pods and your tequila (not a drinker and certainly not a connoisseur but people who are advise it).
What needs to be in freezing temperatures is your coffee pods and your tequila (not a drinker and certainly not a connoisseur but people who are advise it).
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get a new phone service
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rohaan: 1. I can't really get a very good answer for this: Does storing batteries, regular ones, that is, AA, AAA, D, etc... in the freezer help either prolong or rejuvenate, or both?
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....
No freezer scene, buddy
Go on gmail, costs you nothing and skype too.
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SistaCallie: 1. All AA & AAA, D batteries last about the same whether in freezer or not.... use them then get more as needed.. $ store or Walmart!
2. Rohaan, you say you live in Oregon USA in America and you don't know the best cell phone deals around???are you sure you live in Oregon? Or another country and just using Oregon as a way to fit in as if you live in America? UNBELIEVABLE!
Everyone in America knows that AT&T, Version, Cricket, and T-Mobile are a few others are of the best cell phone companies about town across America.
Most monthly set fees $$45.00 to $50.00 a month unlimited calling day or night locally and out of state, no roaming fees, extra fees, and lower monthly fees if you catch their special , I think there is a small fee for overseas calling, like 10 or 20 cents a minute... Some of these companies will also change your cell phone code if you already have a cell phone, this way you will not need to buy a new phone... depends on the kind of phone you already own. If you have a home line phone, most will bundle packages cell, line phone, tv and internet cheaper... $95.00 to $120 a month. Don't a science degree to know this information...just need to know whats out there and call thenm and ask questions abut their cell phone plans...
Check them out their cell phone plans for yourself. call and ask THEM question!
ORDER OF BEST CELL PHONE CARRIERS IN MY OPINION
1. T_MOBILE
2. ATT&T
3. VERISON
4. CRICKET
Yes I really do live in Oregon, right where I have always said I lived. Not everyone is addicted to electronics; I have lived safely and comfortably for the last ten years unfettered by superfluous gadgets and such. I am college educated, and have used computer applications and many other modern tools, but I have not for many years lived in that style-- out of a personal choice to simplify. It's not exactly a bad thing....Recently my physician recommended that I get a cell phone out of a concern for safety for me (I have a chronic incurable illness that can be debilitating at times, and without warning). Your careless accusation that I would pretend to live in the U.S. to "fit-in" followed by the 'Unbelievable!' shout is out of line and you owe me a sincere apology for being wrong and for being vituperative without any cause at all. Not all of us adhere to the insanity of having to be plugged in, tuned out, and virtually so self absorbed as to be unable to recognize and respect others, whether they seem odd or off the beaten path. Read some Thoreau, Emerson, for starters. In the future, as one step toward a better approach, I ask you courteously to not respond to any of my posts if you find that you cannot be completely open and fair to the fact that not everyone sees the world the same way you do.2. Rohaan, you say you live in Oregon USA in America and you don't know the best cell phone deals around???are you sure you live in Oregon? Or another country and just using Oregon as a way to fit in as if you live in America? UNBELIEVABLE!
Everyone in America knows that AT&T, Version, Cricket, and T-Mobile are a few others are of the best cell phone companies about town across America.
Most monthly set fees $$45.00 to $50.00 a month unlimited calling day or night locally and out of state, no roaming fees, extra fees, and lower monthly fees if you catch their special , I think there is a small fee for overseas calling, like 10 or 20 cents a minute... Some of these companies will also change your cell phone code if you already have a cell phone, this way you will not need to buy a new phone... depends on the kind of phone you already own. If you have a home line phone, most will bundle packages cell, line phone, tv and internet cheaper... $95.00 to $120 a month. Don't a science degree to know this information...just need to know whats out there and call thenm and ask questions abut their cell phone plans...
Check them out their cell phone plans for yourself. call and ask THEM question!
ORDER OF BEST CELL PHONE CARRIERS IN MY OPINION
1. T_MOBILE
2. ATT&T
3. VERISON
4. CRICKET
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sophiasummer: No freezer scene, buddy
Go on gmail, costs you nothing and skype too.
Go on gmail, costs you nothing and skype too.
or just whatsapp
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rohaan: Yes I really do live in Oregon, right where I have always said I lived. Not everyone is addicted to electronics; I have lived safely and comfortably for the last ten years unfettered by superfluous gadgets and such. I am college educated, and have used computer applications and many other modern tools, but I have not for many years lived in that style-- out of a personal choice to simplify. It's not exactly a bad thing....Recently my physician recommended that I get a cell phone out of a concern for safety for me (I have a chronic incurable illness that can be debilitating at times, and without warning). Your careless accusation that I would pretend to live in the U.S. to "fit-in" followed by the 'Unbelievable!' shout is out of line and you owe me a sincere apology for being wrong and for being vituperative without any cause at all. Not all of us adhere to the insanity of having to be plugged in, tuned out, and virtually so self absorbed as to be unable to recognize and respect others, whether they seem odd or off the beaten path. Read some Thoreau, Emerson, for starters. In the future, as one step toward a better approach, I ask you courteously to not respond to any of my posts if you find that you cannot be completely open and fair to the fact that not everyone sees the world the same way you do.
hiya rohann
like you, i tend to not use a lot of electronic gadgets.
even in the kitchen, i prefer to cut and dice myself...
and like you, i am educated (several degrees), have used computer applications, even taught some at work...but at home i prefer to keep my life simple. it was only a few years ago that BB talked me into getting a cell phone for safety reasons.
and if i could, i would be off the grid (with all modern conveniences...solar powered)
i spend my days painting, cooking, housework, walking the beach, coffee with friends, gardening weather permitted, arts/crafts, sewing... or some 4x4ing and a walk in the forest. i don't even watch news that much anymore....tho...truth be told, i did get caught up in the usa election...
i find life more relaxing this way. when i need help i ask. when i need help with electronic, technical stuff...BB helps me. and friends help me as well with things. ie.2i just helped me today with some photo stuff.
what i have found, now that i am old as dirt....is that i prefer tranquility
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jono7: hiya rohann
like you, i tend to not use a lot of electronic gadgets.
even in the kitchen, i prefer to cut and dice myself...
and like you, i am educated (several degrees), have used computer applications, even taught some at work...but at home i prefer to keep my life simple. it was only a few years ago that BB talked me into getting a cell phone for safety reasons.
and if i could, i would be off the grid (with all modern conveniences...solar powered)
i spend my days painting, cooking, housework, walking the beach, coffee with friends, gardening weather permitted, arts/crafts, sewing... or some 4x4ing and a walk in the forest. i don't even watch news that much anymore....tho...truth be told, i did get caught up in the usa election...
i find life more relaxing this way. when i need help i ask. when i need help with electronic, technical stuff...BB helps me. and friends help me as well with things. ie.2i just helped me today with some photo stuff.
what i have found, now that i am old as dirt....is that i prefer tranquility
I swear I have found my soul-mate! (at least one very good, understanding friend). Bless you to Jupiter and back...like you, i tend to not use a lot of electronic gadgets.
even in the kitchen, i prefer to cut and dice myself...
and like you, i am educated (several degrees), have used computer applications, even taught some at work...but at home i prefer to keep my life simple. it was only a few years ago that BB talked me into getting a cell phone for safety reasons.
and if i could, i would be off the grid (with all modern conveniences...solar powered)
i spend my days painting, cooking, housework, walking the beach, coffee with friends, gardening weather permitted, arts/crafts, sewing... or some 4x4ing and a walk in the forest. i don't even watch news that much anymore....tho...truth be told, i did get caught up in the usa election...
i find life more relaxing this way. when i need help i ask. when i need help with electronic, technical stuff...BB helps me. and friends help me as well with things. ie.2i just helped me today with some photo stuff.
what i have found, now that i am old as dirt....is that i prefer tranquility
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2. I am considering getting a cell-phone that has a set monthly amount for local calls, but additional charges, or subtractions from pre-pay, for long distance calls. However, I am hearing from friends that whether I take or make a call, my account is charged for it in terms of minutes docked or additional charges. Where is it at all fair that BOTH parties pay for the same one call? (Both caller and receiver are charged, for a total of four charges for one single call). Any ideas on these two questions? Thanks.....