Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees ( Archived) (34)

Jan 13, 2017 3:13 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
MnanahEireann
MnanahEireannMnanahEireannDublin, Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 259 Posts
Disgusting to kick and trip a desperate refugee carrying a child to the ground as well as kicking a young girl. The camera woman who did this was sentenced, but did she get off too lightly?



Good to see that the man she kicked is now living happily in Spain with his family and has a new life as a football coach
A Spanish football academy heard the news that he had been a coach for al-Fotuwa, a first-division football team in Syria, before the civil war forced his family to flee their home and reached out to him offering to bring him and his family to Spain and help him rebuild his career as a football coach.

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Jan 13, 2017 4:06 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
MnanahEireann: Disgusting to kick and trip a desperate refugee carrying a child to the ground as well as kicking a young girl. The camera woman who did this was sentenced, but did she get off too lightly?



Good to see that the man she kicked is now living happily in Spain with his family and has a new life as a football coach
A Spanish football academy heard the news that he had been a coach for al-Fotuwa, a first-division football team in Syria, before the civil war forced his family to flee their home and reached out to him offering to bring him and his family to Spain and help him rebuild his career as a football coach.



He was not a refugee, maybe you could google - he was a member of a terrorist organisation Al Nusra. Even if we disregard that, he was not a refugee, Hungary is nowhere near the country he is from, so he does not fit the UN definition of a refugee.

That said, I do not thing what she did was right, but only because he had a child with him.
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Jan 13, 2017 4:21 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
MnanahEireann
MnanahEireannMnanahEireannDublin, Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 259 Posts
Capricorn143: He was not a refugee, maybe you could google - he was a member of a terrorist organisation Al Nusra. Even if we disregard that, he was not a refugee, Hungary is nowhere near the country he is from, so he does not fit the UN definition of a refugee.

That said, I do not thing what she did was right, but only because he had a child with him.


Well, that is the first I have heard of that. So I did as you said and googled. I found very little to link him to that group.
This is from the Independant.co.uk:

"He said he joined peaceful demonstrations against Bashar al-Assad’s government during the 2011 Arab Spring and then had to resign from his position with the regime’s sport federation.

During the backlash sparked by László’s case, critics accused him of supporting the al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra rebel group but Mr Mohsen denied the allegations, which appeared to stem from a Facebook picture incorrectly thought to display the group’s flag.

“I just want a better life,” he said. “I just want to live peacefully with my family and my friends.”

I don't know whether he has terrorist links or not, but I do know that there are people who peacefully demonstrated against the Syrian government in 2011 who are still locked up without trial in inhumane conditions.

Whether he has terrorist links or not, that camera woman was kicking and tripping up refugees and she was wrong.
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Jan 13, 2017 4:25 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Capricorn143: He was not a refugee, maybe you could google - he was a member of a terrorist organisation Al Nusra. Even if we disregard that, he was not a refugee, Hungary is nowhere near the country he is from, so he does not fit the UN definition of a refugee.

That said, I do not thing what she did was right, but only because he had a child with him.


What is your source, Capricorn?
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Jan 13, 2017 4:37 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
mollybaby: What is your source, Capricorn?





There are other articles, with pictures of the man carrying weapons.

Again I am not trying to make excuses for her, but I am just wondering what kind of man leaves his wife and daughter behind?
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Jan 13, 2017 4:43 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Capricorn143: https://www.rt.com/news/316124-refugee-camerawoman-kicked-militant/

There are other articles, with pictures of the man carrying weapons.

Again I am not trying to make excuses for her, but I am just wondering what kind of man leaves his wife and daughter behind?



They were in circumstances that we will never ever understand, thankfully.

Even where there is no war, but poverty, mothers and fathers often leave their kids behind when they go abroad to work to earn money to give the kids a better life than they had.
They give up their life with their kids to give their kids a better life.
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Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
MnanahEireann
MnanahEireannMnanahEireannDublin, Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 259 Posts
Capricorn143: https://www.rt.com/news/316124-refugee-camerawoman-kicked-militant/

There are other articles, with pictures of the man carrying weapons.

Again I am not trying to make excuses for her, but I am just wondering what kind of man leaves his wife and daughter behind?


He didn't leave his wife back in Syria, this is the background story

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Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
One of the reasons I asked was it seems that every Syrian refugee who makes the news seems to be accused of being a criminal.

This one is fighting back:

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Jan 13, 2017 4:49 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
MnanahEireann: Disgusting to kick and trip a desperate refugee carrying a child to the ground as well as kicking a young girl. The camera woman who did this was sentenced, but did she get off too lightly?



Good to see that the man she kicked is now living happily in Spain with his family and has a new life as a football coach
A Spanish football academy heard the news that he had been a coach for al-Fotuwa, a first-division football team in Syria, before the civil war forced his family to flee their home and reached out to him offering to bring him and his family to Spain and help him rebuild his career as a football coach.



Nah, hang her laugh

Probably about right in fairness.
I think there are worse things being done and people not serving jail time although its hard to compare different jurisdictions.

wave
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Jan 13, 2017 4:56 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
MnanahEireann: He didn't leave his wife back in Syria, this is the background story




Thanks Mna, just necessary red tape is separating them so thumbs up
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Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby: One of the reasons I asked was it seems that every Syrian refugee who makes the news seems to be accused of being a criminal.

This one is fighting back:



thumbs up

There's a huge amount of propaganda out there some from individuals, some from more scary sources laugh
Was reading yesterday the BBC are starting a Fact Checking section for news stories.
That should be interesting.

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Jan 13, 2017 5:03 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Bogart_1960
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Capricorn143: He was not a refugee, maybe you could google - he was a member of a terrorist organisation Al Nusra. Even if we disregard that, he was not a refugee, Hungary is nowhere near the country he is from, so he does not fit the UN definition of a refugee.

That said, I do not thing what she did was right, but only because he had a child with him.




lol, you don't disappoint. Once again you make it clear that your reading comprehension needs work.Go and read some real news before you comment again. laugh


as I know you dont know the rule of holes, I will get another foolish outburst for sure. as usual !


PS: I must congratulate you on the extent of the grammatical improvement in your English. Astounding ! it's as if it's two different people !!!
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Jan 13, 2017 5:05 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Aragorn11: There's a huge amount of propaganda out there some from individuals, some from more scary sources
Was reading yesterday the BBC are starting a Fact Checking section for news stories.
That should be interesting.



Real journalists for proper newspapers always check their sources.

Social media has diluted the truth to be practically irrelevant.

I would love if Facebook lost that case, it might stop people making up lies and sharing untruths.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:09 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
MnanahEireann: He didn't leave his wife back in Syria, this is the background story



Yes, you are right, not in Syria but in Turkey.
One has to wonder why the women should stay where it is supposedly dangerous while the fit, healthy males, instead of fighting for their country, flee to Europe!
Interesting that no one wants (is admitted) to go to the rich Gulf states.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:11 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
mollybaby: Real journalists for proper newspapers always check their sources.

Social media has diluted the truth to be practically irrelevant.

I would love if Facebook lost that case, it might stop people making up lies and sharing untruths.


Not sure which proper newspapers you are referring to, the established newspapers, media in general, have proved their bias and have also published a lot of lies.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:15 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
Capricorn143
Capricorn143Capricorn143The Best, Jugovzhodna Slovenia1 Threads 1,115 Posts
Capricorn143: Yes, you are right, not in Syria but in Turkey.
One has to wonder why the women should stay where it is supposedly dangerous while the fit, healthy males, instead of fighting for their country, flee to Europe!
Interesting that no one wants (is admitted) to go to the rich Gulf states.


Forgot to add my source:


Wonder why only the sons? I bet the other two kids (thought it was only one) that stayed with the wife are girls.confused
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Jan 13, 2017 5:19 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby: Real journalists for proper newspapers always check their sources.

Social media has diluted the truth to be practically irrelevant.

I would love if Facebook lost that case, it might stop people making up lies and sharing untruths.


Yeah, me too.
It is too easy to make stuff up nowadays.

But I think its also some of the MSM. Murdoch with the Sun, the Times and Fox News amongst others and has had unreal access to Prime Ministers in the UK going back decades. He has influence and has been accused of using that influence in the past.

I like to stick to the BBC, The Guardian and The Washington Post. Our own Times and Independent are pretty good in fairness. Sometimes opinion pieces are slanted, but that's what opinion pieces are for I suppose, to challenge us. It is also worth checking their stories, especially the sensational ones, on other sites at times as I don't think anyone is infallible.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:21 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Capricorn143: Yes, you are right, not in Syria but in Turkey.
One has to wonder why the women should stay where it is supposedly dangerous while the fit, healthy males, instead of fighting for their country, flee to Europe!
Interesting that no one wants (is admitted) to go to the rich Gulf states.


Most Syrians were living regular middle-class 2-car, livestyles. They would not want to live under the oppressive regimea on Saudi Arabia any more than the rest of us would.

However, most refugees have gone to other ME countries such as Lebanon and Jordan.
That is of course not highlighted in the west.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:24 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Aragorn11: Yeah, me too.
It is too easy to make stuff up nowadays.

But I think its also some of the MSM. Murdoch with the Sun, the Times and Fox News amongst others and has had unreal access to Prime Ministers in the UK going back decades. He has influence and has been accused of using that influence in the past.

I like to stick to the BBC, The Guardian and The Washington Post. Our own Times and Independent are pretty good in fairness. Sometimes opinion pieces are slanted, but that's what opinion pieces are for I suppose, to challenge us. It is also worth checking their stories, especially the sensational ones, on other sites at times as I don't think anyone is infallible.



I check most things in a few sources.

But yes I agree, broadsheets are generally more trustworthy. I don't touch tabloids anyway, they annoy me.
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Jan 13, 2017 5:50 PM CST Three years probation for Hungarian camera woman who kicked and tripped refugees
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 1,555 Posts
MnanahEireann: Disgusting to kick and trip a desperate refugee carrying a child to the ground as well as kicking a young girl. The camera woman who did this was sentenced, but did she get off too lightly?



Good to see that the man she kicked is now living happily in Spain with his family and has a new life as a football coach
A Spanish football academy heard the news that he had been a coach for al-Fotuwa, a first-division football team in Syria, before the civil war forced his family to flee their home and reached out to him offering to bring him and his family to Spain and help him rebuild his career as a football coach.




Glad she had received some form of punishment and also glad that the refugee found a place to live and work...

Cheers

wine
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