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code_red
melbourne, Victoria Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 7:47 AM CST
Do you think they have a place in a western democratic society?
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funnyone
Emporia, Kansas USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 7:54 AM CST
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Do you think they have a place in a western democratic society?
Yes, they just need to understand that they don't need to kill everyone to practice their beliefs.very mad
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bluewarrior
Paola, Xlokk Malta
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:04 AM CST
It depends on what you understand by the term. However, Islamic fundamentalism as I understand it only has the aim of coercing every system and structure to the Islamic law.

There are obviously wide variations to the Islamic interpretation of law and tradition. However, as the word 'fundamentalism' implies any Islamic interpretation will be essentially regarded as the only truth and only path. People who fall outside must either convert or be in some way removed.

This is diametrically opposed to the concept of democracy. Although I mean the modern version of democracy. In ancient Greece (the source of our democratic idea), females, slaves and people who were not Greek male citizens of a particular class were not part of the democratic process.

My point is that fundamentalism in its very proclmtion contradicts the tenets of the religion it is trying to uphold - be it a Christian, Jewish or Islamic fundamentalism.

That's my opinion. professor
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Adrean
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:04 AM CST
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It depends on what you understand by the term. However, Islamic fundamentalism as I understand it only has the aim of coercing every system and structure to the Islamic law.

There are obviously wide variations to the Islamic interpretation of law and tradition. However, as the word 'fundamentalism' implies any Islamic interpretation will be essentially regarded as the only truth and only path. People who fall outside must either convert or be in some way removed.

This is diametrically opposed to the concept of democracy. Although I mean the modern version of democracy. In ancient Greece (the source of our democratic idea), females, slaves and people who were not Greek male citizens of a particular class were not part of the democratic process.

My point is that fundamentalism in its very proclmtion contradicts the tenets of the religion it is trying to uphold - be it a Christian, Jewish or Islamic fundamentalism.

That's my opinion.
good post
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adj4u
north central USA
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:07 AM CST
gggrrrrrrrrr

sorry Adrean

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organized religion======the root of all evil


ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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bluewarrior
Paola, Xlokk Malta
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:08 AM CST
The conclusion is that democracy and fundamentalism do not go together at all. As long as you have to choose one thing to be accepted and given rights, you can never have democracy as we know it.

That's all I promise angel
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Adrean
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:09 AM CST
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gggrrrrrrrrr

sorry Adrean


organized religion======the root of all evil


ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
it's np Robin
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code_red
melbourne, Victoria Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:13 AM CST
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It depends on what you understand by the term. However, Islamic fundamentalism as I understand it only has the aim of coercing every system and structure to the Islamic law.

There are obviously wide variations to the Islamic interpretation of law and tradition. However, as the word 'fundamentalism' implies any Islamic interpretation will be essentially regarded as the only truth and only path. People who fall outside must either convert or be in some way removed.

This is diametrically opposed to the concept of democracy. Although I mean the modern version of democracy. In ancient Greece (the source of our democratic idea), females, slaves and people who were not Greek male citizens of a particular class were not part of the democratic process.

My point is that fundamentalism in its very proclmtion contradicts the tenets of the religion it is trying to uphold - be it a Christian, Jewish or Islamic fundamentalism.

That's my opinion.
yes, a fine definition of a fundamentalist....the thread however is....can people with those those views co-exist, in a western democratic society?.Which i may point out many have chosen to reside in
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bobby7
Mission Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:16 AM CST
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yes, a fine definition of a fundamentalist....the thread however is....can people with those those views co-exist, in a western democratic society?.Which i may point out many have chosen to reside in
Why not? All it takes is respect and courtesy..
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code_red
melbourne, Victoria Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:19 AM CST
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Why not? All it takes is respect and courtesy..
And do you believe that respect and courtesy you mention is there?
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bobby7
Mission Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:20 AM CST
It certainly is with me..I cannot speak for all, but, in Canada, we

get along nicely..
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code_red
melbourne, Victoria Australia
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:31 AM CST
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It certainly is with me..I cannot speak for all, but, in Canada, we

get along nicely..
And do you have many hardline religous zealouts there?
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bobby7
Mission Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 10:32 AM CST
No, we don't..People just seem to go about their businees, and get along..
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Pucks
Vernon Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 11:32 AM CST
Oh Canadacanada
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bobby7
Mission Canada
Posted: Jan 12, 2007, 11:35 AM CST
Pucks...See sports in the Canada Forums..We lost a great athlete today..

Sorry about the hi-jack..I'll go now..rolling on the floor laughing
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farrukh123
Islamabad, Islamabad Pakistan
Posted: Jan 24, 2007, 5:47 AM CST
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Yes, they just need to understand that they don't need to kill everyone to practice their beliefs.
You do not know about Islam.First Read about islam And then say comments in Forum about that religion which you know deeply
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TheProfessor
Pandoras Box USA
Posted: Jan 24, 2007, 5:52 AM CST
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Yes, they just need to understand that they don't need to kill everyone to practice their beliefs.
That comment was a tad overboard. Islam is related to peace, the rogue radical extremists are those who say they're doing it in the name of Islam. I agree with the guy from Pakistan, know what you speak of before you throw out comments that will definitely start a war.
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Ocee35
Jackson, Michigan USA
Posted: Jan 24, 2007, 5:59 AM CST
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You do not know about Islam.First Read about islam And then say comments in Forum about that religion which you know deeply
Scolding does not educate people,

information does.
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fireliter
Allen Park, Michigan USA
Posted: Jan 24, 2007, 6:12 AM CST
being a democratic society well lets put it to a vote.

if we are a "republic" is it not our responsibility to "make" a place for them...freedom of religion, press, speech, and yada yada yada....as the constitution says.
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Jose13
Azángaro, Puno Peru
Posted: Jan 24, 2007, 6:16 AM CST
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Scolding does not educate people,

information does.
And misinformation (above all Western media) makes people stupid and nodding
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