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Stem-cell research, how much do you understand?

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asingledad
Beaufort, South Carolina USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 10:31 AM CST
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And yet again... Google is a good thing...
Oh yes ...Google is infallible, thats right ......

Oh yeah and the media is always correct about every fact !!!! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 10:35 AM CST
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Oh yes ...Google is infallible, thats right ......

Oh yeah and the media is always correct about every fact !!!!
Depends on what sources you choose after googling...
Some common sense and a critical mind will help you select the ones that tell the truth...
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asingledad
Beaufort, South Carolina USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 10:37 AM CST
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Depends on what sources you choose after googling...
Some common sense and a critical mind will help you select the ones that tell the truth...
And a jaded view against Americans helps too....
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 10:45 AM CST
Not when it comes to stem cells, which I believe this thread is about...
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dixrog
Norton, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 11:47 AM CST
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Stem cell research is not about conspiracies or morality. It is simply about advanced medical solutions to health problems. It promises to be a huge boon for human suffering and an advance for humanity. Nearly a thousand years of the western world was once plunged into obscurantism. It was the Dark Ages. It was dominated by the church doctrine and faith choked humanity into submission.

A thousand years!! You think there aren't vestiges any of that dark mentality today? Of course there are and there always will be. Even as we are born with the aid of modern medicine, live in comforts provided by science, are educated in science and the learnings of the Enlightenment, produce, have justice and peace, technology and medicine all striving to better human life there will be tendencies to regress and deny progress and happiness to our existence. We know more about that dark age and that mentality today. It is a choice we make when we seek one path or another.

To deny stem-cell research is to repudiate everything that has given us a better life, decency, happiness and a way out of hopelessness.
Wow, thank you for that comment. I had to look up a couple of words, which is surprising to me, but living and learning is the name of the game.

Quite swaying I must say, no argument here.

Dix
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 12:01 PM CST
Stem-cell research is going on right now. The debate is over adult stem-cell research versus embryonic stem-cell research. As I have stated before, adult stem-cell research has already come up with cures and treatments for quite a few ailments. Embryonic stem-cell research has shown nothing in the way of a cure or the hopes of finding any through them.
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dixrog
Norton, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 12:12 PM CST
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Stem-cell research is going on right now. The debate is over adult stem-cell research versus embryonic stem-cell research. As I have stated before, adult stem-cell research has already come up with cures and treatments for quite a few ailments. Embryonic stem-cell research has shown nothing in the way of a cure or the hopes of finding any through them.
I've been accused of being ignorant already so here goes, how do they harvest adult stem cells? And if they can do that why bother with the other?
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 1:01 PM CST
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Stem-cell research is going on right now. The debate is over adult stem-cell research versus embryonic stem-cell research. As I have stated before, adult stem-cell research has already come up with cures and treatments for quite a few ailments. Embryonic stem-cell research has shown nothing in the way of a cure or the hopes of finding any through them.
I will admit that I was wrong... and you're right! angel

But there was a case here some years ago, a 6 year old boy with Thalassemia (even managed to spell it right today), where the family got dispensation to sort the mothers eggs, and implant healty eggs into her. It caused the law to be changed here... The child was going to the US to be cured, with the cells from his brother/sister, or at least they were going to try. Unfortunately the mother lost the baby about 2,5 months before it was due, and no stemcells were saved.
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:03 PM CST
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I've been accused of being ignorant already so here goes, how do they harvest adult stem cells? And if they can do that why bother with the other?
From what little I have read on the subject, adult stem-cells are harvested from bone marrow and also from umbilical cords. The more that researchers learn of adult stem-cells, the more they are seeing the many uses for them. From what I have read, the main reason for harvesting embryonic stem-cells is to eventually use them for cloning purposes.
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:05 PM CST
BTW, they have now found out that the liquid that surrounds the embryo might be used...
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:07 PM CST
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I will admit that I was wrong... and you're right!

But there was a case here some years ago, a 6 year old boy with Thalassemia (even managed to spell it right today), where the family got dispensation to sort the mothers eggs, and implant healty eggs into her. It caused the law to be changed here... The child was going to the US to be cured, with the cells from his brother/sister, or at least they were going to try. Unfortunately the mother lost the baby about 2,5 months before it was due, and no stemcells were saved.
Thank you. From what I have read, if stem-cells can be used to treat and/or cure thalassemia, the best chance is for the stem-cells to be harvested form the person suffering from the disease. Little chance of the body rejecting them that way.
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:41 PM CST
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Thank you. From what I have read, if stem-cells can be used to treat and/or cure thalassemia, the best chance is for the stem-cells to be harvested form the person suffering from the disease. Little chance of the body rejecting them that way.
Pardon my ignorance, but won't those cells be "infected"?
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:46 PM CST
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Pardon my ignorance, but won't those cells be "infected"?
Is why I said IF they could be used to treat or cure. I am not that knowledgeable on either subject to formulate more than a guess.
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:55 PM CST
The big discussion here was wether or not they could sort out healthy eggs from the mother, both parents being carriers, implant them, and then use the stemcells to try and cure the little boy when the baby was born. I wonder how he's doing by the way... Will have to look into that...
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Oslojente
Olso, Oslo Norway
Posted: May 5, 2007, 2:57 PM CST
Sorry, not the stemcells, but bonemarrow from a healthy sibling!
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chara
Missoula, Montana USA
Posted: May 24, 2007, 7:03 AM CST
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My ex wife's sister had spinal Bifida (Spelling check?) and mild Downs. Stem cell research might not have saved her, but the research could help us under stand the desease and prevent it happening to others.

The worry I've heard most is promoting abortions to get the material they need.

Umbilical Chord Blood is just as effective.

I support research, but my worry is that the wealthy will be the biggest benefactors while those who need it the most will go unattended. Thank goodness for the Shriners Hospitals and like organizations who will help anyone. They will benifit from these programs and that's good.

I think children should be helped in anyway possible, but I don't see it working out that way.
Thought you might be interested in knowing,the federal government does fund cord blood stem cell research.A law got passed and the aim with it is to get enough geneticall diverse cross sections of cord blood units to help 90% of the patients who need it.100% would be better but right now 90 will work.Hopefully women will become aware of this and won't mind donating after delivery.
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homer1
Luxembourg, Luxembourg Luxembourg
Posted: May 24, 2007, 8:11 AM CST
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Wow, thank you for that comment. I had to look up a couple of words, which is surprising to me, but living and learning is the name of the game.

Quite swaying I must say, no argument here.

Dix
Thank you Dix.

Like Climate Change and Global Warming, we dont really have to have an in-depth knowledge of the subject inorder to have an opinion about it. We dont have to know about electricity to make use of it or know how a internal combustion engine works to drive a car. We dont, each of us, have to re-invent the wheel before using it.

It is a more a matter of mind-set: the closed minds that oppose change and the open minds that welcome it. Minds that like to restrict human advances and minds that want to free human effort.

It is also true that there is often a downside to most advances - but only if abused. But you will notice that the party that restricts and opposes advances often have something to gain from it. Are often also the abusers of the advances. Some status quo vested interest is always threatened by change.

It is not too difficult to identify the closed minds. Look around and you will see who they are.
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