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Should stupid people be saved from their own stupidity




Roguecop
Elko, Nevada USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:04 PM CST
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should intelligent people or those with common sense intervene to prevent stupid from being taken advantage of, or making a mistake?
Are you Referring to the Darwin Awards where they get an award for doing stupid stuff which results in their being eliminated from the gene pool by their own hands ?
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:05 PM CST
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by all means teach him to fish. take the time and show the interest.
but if he doesn't get it right first time and is not up to our perceived standards, don't let him starve.

I find it really difficult to ask for help. I would move a mountain before I would admit that I needed a leg up.
I hope I am always in that position to help myself.
Most often, what people want, is not really what they need...If I am to take the time, and show the interest, they will set their own standards...

If I show an alcoholic how to farm, is he going to eat the proceeds or distill it into sour mash? Not my decision, but I think, after reviewing what he's done with the information, I will not help him learn how to grow grapes, rather, I will teach him how to raise sheep...wink
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tinymac
hilversum, Flevoland Netherlands
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:08 PM CST
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Are you Referring to the Darwin Awards where they get an award for doing stupid stuff which results in their being eliminated from the gene pool by their own hands ?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

some of those are so unbelivably funny

like the guy who committed suicide by shooting his father!

see if u can find it on the web - its great!
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:13 PM CST
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Most often, what people want, is not really what they need...If I am to take the time, and show the interest, they will set their own standards...

If I show an alcoholic how to farm, is he going to eat the proceeds or distill it into sour mash? Not my decision, but I think, after reviewing what he's done with the information, I will not help him learn how to grow grapes, rather, I will teach him how to raise sheep...
or maybe take the time to befriend such a person and show them that the sense of worthlessness they are experiencing isnt a truth - they are worth so much more - sometimes people have a hard time of believing in themselves and just need a little encouragement and love and cuddles hug
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:19 PM CST
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or maybe take the time to befriend such a person and show them that the sense of worthlessness they are experiencing isnt a truth - they are worth so much more - sometimes people have a hard time of believing in themselves and just need a little encouragement and love and cuddles
I'm not that nurturing...and I know that already...

Perhaps if someone had done as you suggest with me when I was younger, I might believe this, but I don't...

I believe that I have to be in this world, but not of it...

Because the world is cruel, doesn't mean I have to be...

Because my job is depressing, doesn't mean I have to be depressed.

And because people say they need help, doesn't mean they really do...or that when they tell me I should care, that I really should...

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jodigirlsfree
Conway, South Carolina USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:24 PM CST
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I'm not that nurturing...and I know that already...

Perhaps if someone had done as you suggest with me when I was younger, I might believe this, but I don't...

I believe that I have to be in this world, but not of it...

Because the world is cruel, doesn't mean I have to be...

Because my job is depressing, doesn't mean I have to be depressed.

And because people say they need help, doesn't mean they really do...or that when they tell me I should care, that I really should...

you are in it and in being unwilling to take a risk and embrace it you lose much more than the small amount you are willing to put into it...and that loss can be the deciding factor on how you see, react and cope in the world itself....JMOwink
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:26 PM CST
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you are in it and in being unwilling to take a risk and embrace it you lose much more than the small amount you are willing to put into it...and that loss can be the deciding factor on how you see, react and cope in the world itself....JMO
I'm not unwilling to take a risk, jodi...

I just don't let other people decide how I should think or feel...

I can't be more specific than that unless its more than a hypothetical situation.

If you can ask me if I have a quarter, you can ask if I want fries with that...there are always alternatives...thumbs up
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jodigirlsfree
Conway, South Carolina USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:29 PM CST
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I'm not unwilling to take a risk, jodi...

I just don't let other people decide how I should think or feel...

I can't be more specific than that unless its more than a hypothetical situation.

If you can ask me if I have a quarter, you can ask if I want fries with that...there are always alternatives...
so, if you make a decision not to help someone isnt that being unwilling to take a risk some people have to do things the hard way and dont relaize they have control until they have hit bottom and or someone points it out to them....I am willing to take a risk if there is the slightest change any good can come of it.....How r ya Trace....busybusybusy????
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:33 PM CST
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so, if you make a decision not to help someone isnt that being unwilling to take a risk some people have to do things the hard way and dont relaize they have control until they have hit bottom and or someone points it out to them....I am willing to take a risk if there is the slightest change any good can come of it.....How r ya Trace....busybusybusy????
I'm good. God, if you only knew how buzzzy...help laugh

And, like I said, it depends on the situation...I'm just not a big fan of being lazy and then pointing a finger at the world saying its "their" fault...

That's like Manson blaming society because he's a psychopath...okay, maybe you are a psychopath because of society, but ultimately, you're responsible for your actions, regardless of what you've been "taught"...
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jodigirlsfree
Conway, South Carolina USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 2:34 PM CST
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I'm good. God, if you only knew how buzzzy...

And, like I said, it depends on the situation...I'm just not a big fan of being lazy and then pointing a finger at the world saying its "their" fault...

That's like Manson blaming society because he's a psychopath...okay, maybe you are a psychopath because of society, but ultimately, you're responsible for your actions, regardless of what you've been "taught"...
now THAT i agree with youdancing banana dancing banana dancing banana cheers
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sexysweeti
Clinton USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 3:26 PM CST
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or maybe take the time to befriend such a person and show them that the sense of worthlessness they are experiencing isnt a truth - they are worth so much more - sometimes people have a hard time of believing in themselves and just need a little encouragement and love and cuddles
Trish you are a beuatiful soul. I personally believe that calling people stupid is an unnecessay statement of judgement. i teach my daughter not to say stupid. People are born with different IQ's but that is not a measure of our worth either. Some people have addictions and some have had bad experiences that have left them with poor self-worth and they make poor choices. Condemnation does not make better, it further oppresses. If you can't say something nice or help someone, how does it help to judge and condemn them?
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sexysweeti
Clinton USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 3:59 PM CST
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Trish you are a beuatiful soul. I personally believe that calling people stupid is an unnecessay statement of judgement. i teach my daughter not to say stupid. People are born with different IQ's but that is not a measure of our worth either. Some people have addictions and some have had bad experiences that have left them with poor self-worth and they make poor choices. Condemnation does not make better, it further oppresses. If you can't say something nice or help someone, how does it help to judge and condemn them?
Or the truth is who does it help?
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 8:23 PM CST
They should all be set on fire...very mad ...devil ...here's to you
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 8:31 PM CST
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Trish you are a beuatiful soul. I personally believe that calling people stupid is an unnecessay statement of judgement. i teach my daughter not to say stupid. People are born with different IQ's but that is not a measure of our worth either. Some people have addictions and some have had bad experiences that have left them with poor self-worth and they make poor choices. Condemnation does not make better, it further oppresses. If you can't say something nice or help someone, how does it help to judge and condemn them?
Oh I have only just seen this - so sorry - Thank You So Much - but its true isnt it - people never take long enough to look for the beauty - they are always so ready to see how 'it affects them' or what 'they' will lose out on - lending a hand seems to have sadly gone out of vogue hug
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bluem8e
Barstow, California USA
Posted: Aug 14, 2007, 8:34 PM CST
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should intelligent people or those with common sense intervene to prevent stupid from being taken advantage of, or making a mistake?
Yes I will now tell me your situation LOL.
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