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Should we invade Iran!!

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Should we invade Iran!!




paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 4:59 PM CST
I think more people are just scared that this could lead to the end of days senerio and that a holy war could be started. Either way we all we see that war has to happen in order to have peace. It would be nice for everyone to hold hands and kiss but its not going to happen. And the only thing i can look forward to is that i didnt stand beside and let this happen i stood up when noones else would to stand on the front lines and fight the beast up front a personal. That way when my daughter ask what i did to stop terriosm and to protect our country i can say i fought when noone stood beside us and that i gave all i could to make sure she can live free!!
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trish123
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:04 PM CST
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Think about this; if there were no wars, there would still be slaves, and Jewish would be still be dying under Hitlers regime ( or whoever might have taken over after his death), the US would not be the US....do I need to continue? Read a history book.
do you really need to get personally insulting - that about says it all really
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sassychele
Gresham, Oregon USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:06 PM CST
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do you really need to get personally insulting - that about says it all really
Sorry wasnt meant as an insult, but seriously it is true that war is part of our history. That was all that was meant by that comment!
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Roguecop
Elko, Nevada USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:06 PM CST
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The president of Iran is a out spoken enemy of western forces. He has been quoted to say that Isreal should join america and britian and that every Jew in the middle east should be put to death. Not only that but he came out yesterday to say that Iran has meet their goal of 3000 centerfugies to build enrich uranium. He has put his country into a terrible state where even the basic rights are not allowed. Women are not allowed to ride bikes and men are not allowed to have western hairstyles or even cut their beards. So my question is do we let this go on or do we fight? It would be nice just to sit and talk and drink tea together but do you really think that someone that wants to eraticate the Jews and kill all western devils will actually listen to us. You already know what i think invade Iran and promote democracy. But i want to hear what you think. Plz dont get shitty with each other over their views just debate in a civil manner.
Paul

If they show me evidence that this is where all the trouble is coming from, I will come out of retirement and pack a bag to head over and kick some Azz.

But it needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.


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sassychele
Gresham, Oregon USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:06 PM CST
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I think more people are just scared that this could lead to the end of days senerio and that a holy war could be started. Either way we all we see that war has to happen in order to have peace. It would be nice for everyone to hold hands and kiss but its not going to happen. And the only thing i can look forward to is that i didnt stand beside and let this happen i stood up when noones else would to stand on the front lines and fight the beast up front a personal. That way when my daughter ask what i did to stop terriosm and to protect our country i can say i fought when noone stood beside us and that i gave all i could to make sure she can live free!!
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sassychele
Gresham, Oregon USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:08 PM CST
Well as much as I would love to continue this debate, I must go and run some errands, yesterday was my daughters first day of school, and she has no school clothes, or supplies! She hasnt even been to school yet! ouch

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Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:11 PM CST
"Only the dead have seen the end of war"-Plato...

So peace will only happen when we're all frigging dead. D'oh!

War is...human. (and insectoid. Ants do it too.)

Life is...precious

Until there is a revolution of consciousness and we can redefine human nature, it will never be completely eradicated...
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trish123
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:13 PM CST
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Sorry wasnt meant as an insult, but seriously it is true that war is part of our history. That was all that was meant by that comment!
well, if it wasnt meant that way thats ok, it is simply that I have spent my life reading, from as far back as I remember it was childrns versions of greek mythology etc - to the present day when i have about 20 yrs worth of History Today in the cupboard and am currently at university studying social sciences
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Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:17 PM CST
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well, if it wasnt meant that way thats ok, it is simply that I have spent my life reading, from as far back as I remember it was childrns versions of greek mythology etc - to the present day when i have about 20 yrs worth of History Today in the cupboard and am currently at university studying social sciences
Problem is, history is written by the winners...

I've always had my suspicions about the War in Heaven...

And every war since...mumbling
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mrbkind
west valley, Utah USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:18 PM CST
I ALWAYS WONDER'D WHY OUR OIL WAS UNDER THEIR SANDconfused laugh
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trish123
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:22 PM CST
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Problem is, history is written by the winners...

I've always had my suspicions about the War in Heaven...

And every war since...
Well said Tracy - just because things have always been that way does not mean that they always have to be thus - a revolution in consciousness would be infinitely more beneficial
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lorraine
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:23 PM CST
What is wrong with some of you people?????

Nuke em, nuke em nuke em
It is none of your business what length they cut have their hair cut or what their women wear. Get over it. And dont try to fool anyone into thinking that you actually care about anyone else unless they were born in the U.S. You don't. MONEY and OIL is all that is on some peoples minds.
Nke them before they have the capability to nuke us. So anyone who even thinks about nuclear weapons is at war with the u.s.
Who the hell do you think you are that you are the only nation in the world to have nuclear weapons???
And when all you arnie's go to war did you ever, ever think about the real people, not their leaders who will suffer horribly. you know what, they love their kids just as much as you do.
As one of the most powerful nations in the world you have a responsibility not to abuse that power, not wipe out whole nations.
And make no mistake, the chinese and the russians are watching. The u.s. is stretched enough now, if they go to war with iran then they will be leaving themselves wide open from attacks from other so called superpowers. And you know what, who could blame them. very mad very mad
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DizzyDi
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:25 PM CST
They talk about world peace, they talk of allsorts, when it comes down to it , its the price of oil that makes the world go round frustrated
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:26 PM CST
I hate to go back to old fashion speakers but i think alot of yall need to go listen or read what Churchill, Patton, Rosevelt, and Jefferson have to say on War it will open your eyes. It might not be our resonsibitly to help spread democracy throughout the world but listening to what yall want to do i would rather fight and i will as soon as the give me the chance!
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Roguecop
Elko, Nevada USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:27 PM CST
I know I wont sleep tonight worrying about where my Next tank of gas is coming from .



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Mitchell1
Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:34 PM CST
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I know I wont sleep tonight worrying about where my Next tank of gas is coming from .



It`ll be coming from the Gulf of Mexico or from South America. I`m pretty sure we do not import from the middle east.
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trish123
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:35 PM CST
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. (After a pause.)

The above is an excerpt from Mark Twains, The Long Prayer - is this what some of you think we need to be doing

cant we just leave well alone - please !!!!!!!!
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:36 PM CST
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What is wrong with some of you people?????

Nuke em, nuke em nuke em
It is none of your business what length they cut have their hair cut or what their women wear. Get over it. And dont try to fool anyone into thinking that you actually care about anyone else unless they were born in the U.S. You don't. MONEY and OIL is all that is on some peoples minds.
Nke them before they have the capability to nuke us. So anyone who even thinks about nuclear weapons is at war with the u.s.
Who the hell do you think you are that you are the only nation in the world to have nuclear weapons???
And when all you arnie's go to war did you ever, ever think about the real people, not their leaders who will suffer horribly. you know what, they love their kids just as much as you do.
As one of the most powerful nations in the world you have a responsibility not to abuse that power, not wipe out whole nations.
And make no mistake, the chinese and the russians are watching. The u.s. is stretched enough now, if they go to war with iran then they will be leaving themselves wide open from attacks from other so called superpowers. And you know what, who could blame them.
Money and oil huh. I wish cause our gas prices are going nuts. But i know that we dont give a damn about their oil seems to me that other nations put more into the oil theroy then we do. Besides if that was the case we would have invaded Saudia Arabia. As far as nuking them we know that that doesnt solve anything. I know from talking to my buddies and guys coming home that we need to stop Iran just for the simple fact that they are sponsering weapons to kill our soldiers. And thats why i fight to defend my country and to bring my guys home safe. I pray everyday that everyone on the front lines makes it home and that soon i will get a chance to make a difference. I just want yall to remeber that we said what was going to happen first. Just remeber that!!
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:37 PM CST
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O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. (After a pause.)

The above is an excerpt from Mark Twains, The Long Prayer - is this what some of you think we need to be doing

cant we just leave well alone - please !!!!!!!!
Wow it aint that bad on the battlefield trust me maybe during Mark Twains time but war in Iraq isnt half as bad as that.
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trish123
Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 5:39 PM CST
tell that to the mother picking pieces of her son from her clothes sweetie
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