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Should we invade Iran!!

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Should we invade Iran!!

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DizzyDi
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:05 PM CST
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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."


"War is an art and as such is not susceptible of explanation by fixed formula"

"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking."

"All men are timid on entering any fight. Whether it is the first or the last fight, all of us are timid. Cowards are those who let their timidity get the better of their manhood."

Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
- General George Patton
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Roguecop
Elko, Nevada USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:06 PM CST
I do not like war at all, but you show me proof that this is where all the problems are coming from , then it's on like Donkey Kong !

I say live my Miyamnoto Mushashi's example, Make your attacks sudden, vicious, and over whelming .


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lorraine
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:06 PM CST
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I wont even get into the oil bs but i know why i fight and why my men fight and i know that we take those values with us and double think everytime before we take that life. Trust me noones dies over there unless the raise arms against me or my men. Then you better bet that i will shot him down with no prejudice. We are over there we will be over there and we aint going anywhere soon!
you need to get yourself a good ride.zzzz
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Oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:06 PM CST
So Paulbob, why aren't you there making a diference already?? dunno confused
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Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:08 PM CST
Please people, keep this away from argumentum ad hominem. He has his opinion, and he is entitled to it. Let's not attack the man simply because we don't agree with him, or we justify his point of view by joining with the same reasons we're there to begin with...

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Mitchell1
Chattanooga USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:09 PM CST
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So Paulbob, why aren't you there making a diference already??
He has r to take orders from superiors. Yhere is a chain of command in the armed services. Obviously he hasn`t been called up yet.
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:10 PM CST
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So Paulbob, why aren't you there making a diference already??
I will my dear my train (or plane) is a coming and me and my men will make that difference more then you sitting here on your ass trying to pretend like you know whats going on in the war. I dont like you and i will say upfront your mean and always seem to disagree whenever it doesnt suit you. I have no problems with other comments but you just need to shut it!
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Oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:10 PM CST
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Please people, keep this away from argumentum ad hominem. He has his opinion, and he is entitled to it. Let's not attack the man simply because we don't agree with him, or we justify his point of view by joining with the same reasons we're there to begin with...

Sorry, I was just wondering... and I'm actually glad he's not,...
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:10 PM CST
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I will my dear my train (or plane) is a coming and me and my men will make that difference more then you sitting here on your ass trying to pretend like you know whats going on in the war. I dont like you and i will say upfront your mean and always seem to disagree whenever it doesnt suit you. I have no problems with other comments but you just need to shut it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDecLiA_Qbw
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:10 PM CST
timidity doesnt even come into it, and certainly the same for cowardice - there are much better reasons than those for choosing not to fight - rationality rather than indoctrinated emotion for one
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modernday_cowboy
Roanoke, Virginia USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:11 PM CST
Cant we all just get along??confused
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Oslojente
Olso Norway
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:11 PM CST
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He has r to take orders from superiors. Yhere is a chain of command in the armed services. Obviously he hasn`t been called up yet.
Well, thank someone for that...
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Urhotman
Pottstown, Pennsylvania USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:13 PM CST
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Do you understand what you are saying? Don't you think that there's no one who can withdraw from iraq without showing defeat? No western mind understands the Arab mind and you really want to cause another world war, Muslims against Christians...................let well enough alone and let the so called Diplomats do their work.
As regards their domestic customs .....I would ask who the hell are you to interfere in their ways?.................Let them live as they want. it's about time the States stopped interfering in the domestic policies of others...............the world unto Bush is a pipe dream.............for my 2c's worth anyway
Do you understand that if Iran gets there chance they will consume the middle east with alot worse war than we have inflicted...I do agree we should've left them to fight over there country, and spared ourselves the bad press...Though if we would've gotten Saddam out and left, all of the NATO countries would want us to go in and end the civil war that had begun...I agree ...let them have there way and do as they please, but if they make ONE wrong move....BOOM!!! We have enough problems here...We don't need anymore.
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Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:14 PM CST
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Sorry, I was just wondering... and I'm actually glad he's not,...
Actually that wasn't directed at you Cath. When we attack someone's character because we don't agree with them, it shows to discerning intellects the lack of our own character...which is why the US is under such constant foreign fire in the rhetoric department...a weak moral position leads to a war of words, and then, or course to just plain war...thumbs up wink
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paulbob2287
bluffton, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:15 PM CST
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timidity doesnt even come into it, and certainly the same for cowardice - there are much better reasons than those for choosing not to fight - rationality rather than indoctrinated emotion for one
Well im sorry that we disagree and probably will always disagree just understand that we as americans feel the need to help and fight whenever its nessasary its in our blood and we will fight untill all of the world is free. We fight for every inch every yard and every mile for that freedom. Im sorry we disagree but i promise you that i will not kill unless absoultly nessary!
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:16 PM CST


Physicians, heal thyself angel
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lorraine
Dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:17 PM CST
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Well im sorry that we disagree and probably will always disagree just understand that we as americans feel the need to help and fight whenever its nessasary its in our blood and we will fight untill all of the world is free. We fight for every inch every yard and every mile for that freedom. Im sorry we disagree but i promise you that i will not kill unless absoultly nessary!
So how did you and how will you (when you get there) help the Iraqi people.

Please please I hope your government never decides that Ireland needs help.
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Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:20 PM CST
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Well im sorry that we disagree and probably will always disagree just understand that we as americans feel the need to help and fight whenever its nessasary its in our blood and we will fight untill all of the world is free. We fight for every inch every yard and every mile for that freedom. Im sorry we disagree but i promise you that i will not kill unless absoultly nessary!
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious."-Oscar Wilde

You're inclined to flag-waving...more power to you.

But understand, you are as much a fanatic as your adversary...

"Be careful, in hunting monsters, that you yourself dont become one"-Nietschze (sic)
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:22 PM CST
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Well im sorry that we disagree and probably will always disagree just understand that we as americans feel the need to help and fight whenever its nessasary its in our blood and we will fight untill all of the world is free. We fight for every inch every yard and every mile for that freedom. Im sorry we disagree but i promise you that i will not kill unless absoultly nessary!
Oh sweetie, I honour your sentiments but would be much happier if you just stayed home, after all, blood is blood, no matter which country any of us grew up in - most of the 'actual' people dont want you to go fight for us - if you choose to do so - please dont do it in my name
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Mitchell1
Chattanooga USA
Posted: Sep 5, 2007, 6:22 PM CST
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Well, thank someone for that...
Om the contrary madam, I would rather have more like Paul, this man is a warrior, he fights to win, just as he has been trained. If I were a young man as he is, I would consider it an honor to be able to serve my country in his company.

When a nation finds itself in a war, regardless of how we got there, I want men who are hungry to win, who want to end it as soon as possible, so they can come back home and be with their loved ones, And someday when they are old and Grey and their grandchild is sitting on their knee, and asked them "What did you do to fight against terror and Islamo fascism"? Then they can proudly say, " I sure as hell wasn`t shoveling shit in Louisiana"


Patton us one of mt hero's, Patton was a winner.
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