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I must disagree with ya, someone just dosn't wake up suicidal, it takes days and weeks, and slowly they slide down, so on the way down, thats when the crying, and the calling for help comes (most of the time). Just my view of things

Allen

ok ok tried to stay out of this one suicide is something most dotn want to do they want help thats why they cry and talk about it most people have families to think about

i know i have thought about it more than once but i have a young son that i cant do that it wouldnt be fair to him


as far as afrelife goes i thik if you kill urself that your ndxt life will be harder because you have not learned what you are susposed to the first time

I often feel suicidal. Although if I ever actually commit suicide it will probably be a fairly well-planned event. It ticks me off that suicide is illegal and frowned upon. Just because I want to take my own life doesn't mean that I want to die alone or be remembered as a sick person who had problems. On the contrary I'd rather be respected for my choice.

People are far too hung up on death. It's just the other end of birth. We all die. No one will escape death. The fact that someone chooses to pick the time and manner of their death rather than waiting for it to naturally happen shouldn't necessarily be viewed in a negative way.

I'm all for assisted suicide in the case of people in pain and who have terminal diseases. They're going to die anyway. Forcing them to face the agony of their disease is nothing short of stupidity. That's the mentality of a genuinely non-caring society.

For many younger people who feel suicidal, most don’t really want to die. They are simply unhappy with their current situation, or feel that the future is hopeless. Or possibly are they just seeking attention, especially those who fail to succeed in their own demise. Most failed suicide attempts weren't suicide attempts at all, they were merely careless cries for attention. In many cases it actually works to gain the attention they seek.

It's a shame that our society and the deterioration of family values had gotten to the point where people become so distressed as to want to commit suicide. If there's any sickness to point the finger at perhaps we should be pointing at our very own society. There is pressure to be competitive in everything we do from education, to careers to even competing for a mate

How sick is it to have to compete for love?

It's no wonder people commit suicide.

I agree Allen. I have been there. It is something that builds up over time usually. I do think thought that it can be immediate in some cases depending on how the circumstances.

I had a friend call me up 2 weeks before he did it. He had been torturing himself for the past month over something really bad that he did. He told me what happened and it really was bad. I listened and offered my support but he was adament about doing it.

He called me up just 15 minuted before he was gone. I felt so helpless. Back then they did not have 911 and I was not sure of his address. There was nothing i could do. To this day I still wonder why he chose to tell me and not anyone else. I still think about him once in a while.

Froggy Wrote:
"ok ok tried to stay out of this one suicide is something most dotn want to do they want help thats why they cry and talk about it most people have families to think about"

I agree that most people don't really want to die. In fact, even people who do chose suicide may not want to die, they simply see it as a lesser evil than living. :o)

After all, if you're not enjoying life and you have no reason to believe that things are going to get any better then what's the point in continuing on? Just for sake of keeping your body alive??? That just doesn't seem to me to be a valid motivation.

"i know i have thought about it more than once but i have a young son that i cant do that it wouldnt be fair to him"

I absolutely agree with that. I was taking care of my elderly mother for the past 6 years. Talking my own life during that time was entirely out of the question. I could never hurt her by doing that, besides no one else would have taken as good of care of her as I did. When she was alive I had a reason to live. Now that she's gone I no longer have a reason to continue on.

I have no family expect for one sister and she says it's ok with her if I kill myself. ;o)

"as far as afrelife goes i thik if you kill urself that your ndxt life will be harder because you have not learned what you are susposed to the first time"

How can you be so sure? Maybe the whole point to life is to live it over and over and over again until you get so tired of it you finally take your life early. Then BINGO you WIN! You get to move on to the next level of spiritual existence. Makes sense to me.

Good God, thisbreath, don't you think that's a bit harsh?

suicide is a permanent solution to a tempory problem.

Those who committ suicide die once, those they leave behind die a thousand deaths.

If you say that it's a tempory problem then you must have a specific situation in mind.

What if the problem is permanent?

What if there is no one to leave behind?

that's a harsh way to ask someone. they won't come right-out and admit it, just like if they are an alcoholic or stuff that's hard to deal with like that.

i feel ya, allen. i give you props! i wouldn ever have been that open on a forum. great job being brave.

wow! that's a powerful story! really raised my spirits:)

I gotta say...this one has my stomach tied up in knots. Regardless of whether you feel you should be "allowed" to commit suicide...you leave behind all these people who can't heal properly. A person who dies in a car wreck, you grieve for them, and you go on. A person who dies by suicide, you wonder for the rest of your life if you could have "fixed it".

My fiance', my soul-mate, the love of my life...had some problems. I tried to give him a wake-up call by breaking it off with him. He left my house...and put a bullet through his brain.

Eleven years later, and I still haven't healed properly. If there is even ONE person you care about in this world, even in passing...even if it is just the cocktail waitress at the bar you frequent...or the paper boy...then how in the HELL could you EVER contemplate doing this to them?

Of course...I say this from both sides. I attempted suicide at fourteen, never intending to wake up. I shiver just thinking of the pain I would have caused just to escape my own.

That is very inspiring. : (

suicide. well im christian, but i do know of one or two circumstances that would allow it. i do happen to know what is there after physical death...i have actually died three times,,,there is more than this

If reincarnation is real you would have had to die a lot more times than that to become human, according to many religions. Did you ever see "Defending your Life"? Who was the actress that wrote that one? Speculation aside, A scientific approach is to believe nothing without some kind of proof.

no i never saw it. mostly i wouldnt argue anything anyone beleives, i read that perhaps god or whatever force you want to call it, is around in many forms by many names. seems to me that your beleif is the right for you. , only with suicide, you cant know what you might have had if you had stuck around. in my case i would not have had two very wonderful children or even known what it was to be loved. i wouldnt choose it , but to each thier own

aww... thank you soo much, anyways..

well said!