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M.A.D.D




Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:00 PM CST

Alcohol is known as a depressant and to some professionals as a class A narcotic.
Why is it still legal?

The "days of the prohibition" argument does not wash in my view since Marijuana and the "war on drugs" has put us in prohibition days since it has been outlawed.

What is your view on this very important issue?
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b_n_d
Glasgow, Kentucky USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:01 PM CST
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Alcohol is known as a depressant and to some professionals as a class A narcotic.
Why is it still legal?

The "days of the prohibition" argument does not wash in my view since Marijuana and the "war on drugs" has put us in prohibition days since it has been outlawed.

What is your view on this very important issue?
Let me drink on this I'l get back to you.drinking
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b_n_d
Glasgow, Kentucky USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:02 PM CST
The deal is, Everything in moderationthumbs up
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gentlepaws
Any town, Ontario Canada
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:05 PM CST
Because most of the law makers were on their 4th martini when they out-lawed marijuana.
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Mitchell1
Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:06 PM CST
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Alcohol is known as a depressant and to some professionals as a class A narcotic.
Why is it still legal?

The "days of the prohibition" argument does not wash in my view since Marijuana and the "war on drugs" has put us in prohibition days since it has been outlawed.

What is your view on this very important issue?
"My friends,

"I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.

"If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.

"But;

"If when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.

"This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise."


Speech by Judge Noah Sweat
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Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:06 PM CST
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The deal is, Everything in moderation

Moderation is a good thing... thumbs up
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cantbetamed71
St. Louis, Illinois USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:07 PM CST
Cannabis should be legalized and taxed accordingly. Alcohol as one said above should be used in moderation but then there are those who have addictive personalities and they don't know the meaning of the word.
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Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:07 PM CST
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Because most of the law makers were on their 4th martini when they out-lawed marijuana.

Gentlepaws, you astound me thumbs up
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Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:11 PM CST
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"My friends,

"I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.

"If when you say whiskey you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.

"But;

"If when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.

"This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise."


Speech by Judge Noah Sweat


Taking the easy way out, aren'tcha? rolling on the floor laughing
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Mitchell1
Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:12 PM CST
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Taking the easy way out, aren'tcha?
Easy way out? Not at all. I think the Judge has it right.
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kujhawkrulz
Neosho Falls, Kansas USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:17 PM CST
I'd have to say that if you drink alcohol and are not a drunkard then it's okay by me :)

I don't really think that spending your babies diaper money to get a fix is good think :(

-Erin
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kujhawkrulz
Neosho Falls, Kansas USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:18 PM CST
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I'd have to say that if you drink alcohol and are not a drunkard then it's okay by me :)

I don't really think that spending your babies diaper money to get a fix is good think :(

-Erin
boy I can't type for anything tonight

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Music_Guy
Jamestown, North Dakota USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:20 PM CST
As a member of AA who just got back from a meeting, I find it very interesting to find this topic being discussed. I think that the judge hit it right on the head. Alcohol does different things for different people.
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Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:26 PM CST
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Easy way out? Not at all. I think the Judge has it right.
So should we just sit on the fence? And wait for that drunk driver to knock us off of it ?
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Mysticalguy
Evansville, Indiana USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:29 PM CST
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As a member of AA who just got back from a meeting, I find it very interesting to find this topic being discussed. I think that the judge hit it right on the head. Alcohol does different things for different people.


Have I gotten that speech wrong? Or is the Judge really sitting on the fence of this issue?
He minds the negative attributes of alcohol but approves of the possitives, that's sitting on the fence...
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Music_Guy
Jamestown, North Dakota USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:30 PM CST
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So should we just sit on the fence? And wait for that drunk driver to knock us off of it ?
No, but as prohibition (of alcohol in the 30's and drugs today) has proven, consequences will not keep a person who wants to use sober. All that a person can do is try to get a person help. If they don't want it, there is very little chance for success. Even for people who want to stay sober there is only something like a 17% success rate for addiction treatment centers.
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Mitchell1
Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:31 PM CST
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So should we just sit on the fence? And wait for that drunk driver to knock us off of it ?
What would you have us do, the laws are quite strict on drinking and driving. And the penalties are even tougher.

Should society be protected from itself in everything?

Do we need to outlaw twinkies, ice cream, cigarettes, guns, cars etc. ?
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Music_Guy
Jamestown, North Dakota USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:32 PM CST
I suppose so. The point that he makes though is that for most people alcohol is not a problem. They can have a couple drinks and go home having had a good time. Myself, when I used to drink, would have to have a drink just to start my day.
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Mitchell1
Chattanooga, Tennessee USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:32 PM CST
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Have I gotten that speech wrong? Or is the Judge really sitting on the fence of this issue?
He minds the negative attributes of alcohol but approves of the possitives, that's sitting on the fence...
You have it right, But so did he.
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cantbetamed71
St. Louis, Illinois USA
Posted: Sep 20, 2007, 11:33 PM CST
No, but what would your solution be to those who do not employ moderation in their indulgences? Let them go out and do something dangerous like eat 1000 twinkies and get behind the wheel???
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