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I don't mind a guy that has kids. The last two guys I dated had kids. The guy I recently met and am interested in has twin boys.

My problem is when there's "baby's mama drama" involved. I completely understand being protective of your children as they are in fact your flesh & blood. My last serious relationship (of 3 yrs, the subject of getting engaged had come up), well his ex had a major issue with me being involved in her son's life. I made all the attempts that I could with her. I offered to meet her and let her get to know me as a person and to give her my phone # so she could contact me at anytime, to which she refused. Never mind the fact that her son loved me to death. I took really good care of him when he was here. Making sure he had a well balance diet, playing games with him, etc.

Part of it was the jealous mom stuff. I wasn't his mom, so yeah I was cool and I was fun...So when he got home it was, "Jillian did this" and "we did this or that" or "Jillian made cookies" or "Jillian rented this game and it was fun", etc etc.

All in all I don't exclude men with kids from my dating. I absolutely love children. I don't rush into meeting the kids; all in due time. I do try and feel out the situation with the child's mother though. In the past has she been really difficult with the new girlfriend? I still miss my ex's son. He was a great kid.

you dont seem to get ti easily .. i mean a list that doesnt match yours !!!

I understood perfectly..I just like to play with passive aggression when I see it

I could tell. Good thing I only care about looks :) The irony in all this is that all of you are responding to a post addressed specifically to young pretty woman....then many claim that I think too much of myself... :)

Did I miss something. What exactly was the courtesy you extended to me?

OMG!!!!!!
What are ya saying.... that none of us cut the mustard?? You're a bit of a charmer, aren't ya??

You know what they say.... if you're in a hole, stop digging!!

Thank you for answering my question dark. I am sad to say that you are probably right about some of that mama stuff. I would like to believe people are basically civil but I am so often being corrected (very recenlty in fact LOL). I hope you did not get hurt in that relationship and you have success in this next one.

I think my self esteem really took a hit on this as I truly was the best husband I knew how to be and until recently loved this woman with everything I had (both in words and actions). I am new to all this dating stuff, especially the internet and am appreciative of your feedback. I can see why with all the people on here a woman like yourself would eliminate that risk in her search.

Best of luck and thanks again

In solidtartans defense, I can understand that you cant help what you are or arent attracted to. Personally, I could never be attracted to someone with a mullet or whose facial hair gave an impression of someone who sold drugs in south america. :)
Im just saying that he should be a bit more openminded. Accepting his kids is key, and so is maturity, but what if she did have a child of her own? That child might add even more joy to his life. What if she wasnt super young, but his own age? That doesnt mean that her spirit isnt youthful.
Good luck solidtartan, I hope that you will be a bit more openminded, for your sake. Otherwise, you have a long search ahead of you.

I guess you did miss it. I am allowing that you are merely curious as you assert rather than the hypocritical narcissist I implied.

I was saying that you are all accusing me of being an egotist when by nature of your post in this thread I could more easily assume that YOU are. But you go right ahead believing what comforts your ego.

You only get a pretty certificate if your pretty.

If u fail the test then u have to wait 10 years to mature, but after 10 years then you're too old. So u lose in any case. lol

Are you a mysogonist by any chance, do you display any homosexual tendancies? I would also like to point out that you dont seem to be attracting too many women that fit your criteria,

I don't mean to be rude, but I would not class you as an 8 personally. People like different things. One mans 8 is another mans 4.

There is enough difficult finding partners without putting futher boundaries in the way! Sometimes you have to look deeper than just the outward appearance of a person. Someone who you think is a 2 can become a 10 with the right personality.

p.s. Although, I am definately an 8+ myself! lol!

Oh SNAP.... Now you went and pulled out the cowboy card....I may cry myself to sleep now...

You have fun you big stud your obviously out of my league...

since when is it bad to be a cowboy?!!! aren't you getting just a weee bit sensitive?

Thank you for answering my question dark. I am sad to say that you are probably right about some of that mama stuff. I would like to believe people are basically civil but I am so often being corrected (very recenlty in fact LOL). I hope you did not get hurt in that relationship and you have success in this next one.

I think my self esteem really took a hit on this as I truly was the best husband I knew how to be and until recently loved this woman with everything I had (both in words and actions). I am new to all this dating stuff, especially the internet and am appreciative of your feedback. I can see why with all the people on here a woman like yourself would eliminate that risk in her search.

Best of luck and thanks again

For some strange reason, I like you, Solid. You got balls, and you have a clear vision of what you want. Points also for being honest.

That's the good part. The negative is that -- especially with your age criterion -- you've kind of limited yourself artificially, imho. There are a lot of hot women that are older than your profile's specified age-range. Broadening that a bit might help. Also, put some more flattering photos of yourself up there, for God's sake. That one with the glasses looks like a 6+ to me, but the one with the baby shows that's an illusion. I prefer to post photos that actually flatter me, which in my case is a necessity (otherwise, I'd be brutally ignored)

Man, this site is really starting to warp my mind. I can hardly believe I'm giving advice to men to make them more appealing to women here. WTF?

I will allow you to continue your investigation w/o the burden of facts. Both those that were alread posted already and those you now request.