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Where Did "Morals" Originate??

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:44 AM CST
By the way, congrats to Wikken for this really cool thread, and to all you brilliant people who are participating.

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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:45 AM CST
"Wikked" D'oh! here's to you
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kitty01
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:46 AM CST
I thought I would put my 2 cents in. I think morals a long time ago started from the bible, but through the ages people change them to go along with what they want.

No sex before marriage
Not to live together without marriage
Single pregnant women did not keep their babies
Women do not ware pants outside the house
Women do not work outside the home
Women cannot do men jobs

the list just goes on
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dazzling_dave
Waynesboro, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:47 AM CST
"35,000 B. C. humans emerge". Emerge from what? If evolution was a fact instead of a theory, where are the in between species now? Sorry for the hi-jack.

We were given our sense of right and wrong by our Creator. As wikked pointed out, our justice system was originally based on the 10 commandments.
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:49 AM CST
i believe that was referring to the Cro-magnon era wave

people did exist before biblical recording dunno
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Ambrose2007
Badger, South Dakota USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:51 AM CST
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i believe that was referring to the Cro-magnon era

people did exist before biblical recording
Hey, Trish!!wave Nice post!hug
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:54 AM CST
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"35,000 B. C. humans emerge". Emerge from what? If evolution was a fact instead of a theory, where are the in between species now? Sorry for the hi-jack.

We were given our sense of right and wrong by our Creator. As wikked pointed out, our justice system was originally based on the 10 commandments.
A Scientific Theory is a bit more thatn a mere "Theory,it is way beyond a Hypothesis.
(Hate to always have to point this out)

And the Ten Commandmends are actually based on the Code of Hammurabi.
And Morality has to be based on Reason and Reality instead of some disjointed whims!
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Zeloniy
Richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 9:57 AM CST
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A Scientific Theory is a bit more thatn a mere "Theory,it is way beyond a Hypothesis.
(Hate to always have to point this out)

And the Ten Commandmends are actually based on the Code of Hammurabi.
And Morality has to be based on Reason and Reality instead of some disjointed whims!
Hammurabi... Reason and Reality...

yeah that sounds more like it ...
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trish123
Lancashire, Lancashire, England UK
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:01 AM CST
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Hey, Trish!! Nice post!
Hi Ambrose - thanks wave hug
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:07 AM CST
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Was it from the whitehouse
Btw,youre not going to eat the Hot Dog in that Picture,it's way too cute.
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:07 AM CST
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Hammurabi... Reason and Reality...

yeah that sounds more like it ...
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mbcasey
North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:09 AM CST
Maybe some sense of right and wrong are encoded, but complex moral dilemnas have to be taught. Good people disagree on alot of moral judgements. Neither side is right or wrong...they just disagree. Example? The death penalty.

I use to be for the death penalty, but the more I learned about it, the more I am against it. I am for very harsh life in prison sentences...but I am against the state taking a life. Good people with good moral values can be on either side of this issue.
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Zeloniy
Richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:21 AM CST
Guilt, remorse are hard codded so it's just a matter of intelligence to isolate the cause and avoid negative feelings... I'm pretty sure these feelings are present in animal world...
We don't know from birth that fire is hot or that water is wet. At the same time we hold our breath underwater...
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Conrad73
Lonesome Town Zurich , Zrich Switzerland
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 10:51 AM CST
A Moral Code has to enable me to live,on this Earth.
It is not something for the "Hereafter"
Most Moralcodes today are designed to be Impossible to live by.
They are designed to be broken,to instill Guilt.
Guilty people are easily led.
You can't visit the punishment of a Bankrobber onto a person that has never robbed a Bank.He is not going to accept it.
But if you make out,that smelling flowers is a Sin,people that accept it will probably still smell flowers but going to feel guilty about it.
If you don't have enough Criminals,just create a few more of them.
Just make everyone feel guilty,guilty guilty of being alive and being Human.very mad

What is Morality then?

"Judgment to distinguish Right and Wrong,Vision to see the Truth,Courage to act upon it,Dedication to that which is Good,Integrity to stand by the Good at any price!"

Ayn Rand in "ATLAS SHRUGGED"
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Zeloniy
Richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 11:06 AM CST
Indeed a very interesting point. Guilt is a key to control.

Good and Bad ... there is no light with out darkens. No pure Evil or pure Good... my moral perspective anyway...
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jodigirlsfree
Conway, South Carolina USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 11:25 AM CST
the inner moral sense or the concept of right from wrong is present at birth...it can be shaped by the general culture or environment in which one lives. It can also be affected by the attitudes of those around them...it is our conscience which gives us the inner ability to look at and evaluate our actions...It helps you to assess a future act and suggests how you would feel if you were to perform that act...More often than not the conscience comes into play after you do something...when acting within your moral sense....a sense of satisfaction or peace is the result, whereas, doing something against our moral sense causes us to feel troubled or distressed.... This sense of fairness is evident in the youngest children...for example... a child is waiting to use the swings..then one child goes in front, ignoring those waiting in line to use that swing....the child will respond *not fair* children even show spontaneously a sense of fairness or moral sense.......professor wave
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Zeloniy
Richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 11:52 AM CST
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the inner moral sense or the concept of right from wrong is present at birth...it can be shaped by the general culture or environment in which one lives. It can also be affected by the attitudes of those around them...it is our conscience which gives us the inner ability to look at and evaluate our actions...It helps you to assess a future act and suggests how you would feel if you were to perform that act...More often than not the conscience comes into play after you do something...when acting within your moral sense....a sense of satisfaction or peace is the result, whereas, doing something against our moral sense causes us to feel troubled or distressed.... This sense of fairness is evident in the youngest children...for example... a child is waiting to use the swings..then one child goes in front, ignoring those waiting in line to use that swing....the child will respond *not fair* children even show spontaneously a sense of fairness or moral sense.......
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hmm... The child realizes that he/she have been wronged however child that toke the swing feels nothing.

sounds like experience to me...
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Konigsberg
Jurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 12:27 PM CST
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hmm... The child realizes that he/she have been wronged however child that toke the swing feels nothing.

sounds like experience to me...
child that toke (?) confused
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Fallingman
dublin, Dublin Ireland
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 12:27 PM CST
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child that toke (?)
It's the new drugs for kids programme! rolling on the floor laughing
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Zeloniy
Richmond, Virginia USA
Posted: Nov 26, 2007, 12:30 PM CST
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child that toke (?)
fine take snooty mumbling
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